Call of Duty 2 (Xbox 360 and PC comparison)

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: JRW
I stand corrected, After looking at those pics I had to load up COD2 and look for myself, 360s version is indeed lacking any AA in 720p & 1080i, When I made my comments earlier I was playing the game in 480P mode (which DOES have AA enabled), Why would I play in 480P? Because the framerate remains much smoother versus running it 720 / 1080i. It still looks pretty darn good in 480P especially with the help of AA.

480p Shot - I was zoomed up closer in the 480P shot but you can still note the AA being applied.

1080i Shot

I looked at the differences between the 480p res and 1080p, and the 1080 seems to have more detail of the textures not to mention a larger viewing angle. I don't know if that's just trickery of the angle of the snap shot takin or some other reason.

If I didn't have an HDTV, would the Xbox version be better than a PC CRT with a suitable video card?

of course the 1080i looks better, it's not as far zoomed in so the textures look better and you see more.

 

[VERTIGGO]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Crescent13
From what I have seen/heard, the xbox360 will not support 2xAA until the next generation of games. I think it runs it at 1280x720, no AA, no AF, everything on medium. I also highly doubt VSYNC.

no. The xbox 360GPU doesn't come close to the 7800GTX 512.I think it would be between a 7800 vanilla, and a 7800GT.

There is AA on plenty of games. Maybe even all of them?

And I do think it does have at least the same capabilities of a 7800GTX... Just look at the screenshots for Fight Night 3. There's nothing on the PC that compares, no matter what hardware you have.

And yes, these are actual gameplay screenshots... And yes, it really does look that good!

• Pic 1
• Pic 2
• Pic 3

Wow it really draws those two models well!! Im not impressed. It better look good. It is a square room, a couple lights, some faded background shelves, and two guys pummelling each other.

yup 2 models 1 room unconvincing crowds(a few guys near the ring and they look adequate at best.). Look at pics 1 and 3. Without zooming in it appears there is 0 aa. zooming in, there is confirmed 0x aa.

but dude, you don't need AA if the whole picture is fuzzy right? I mean c'mon!

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: JRW
I stand corrected, After looking at those pics I had to load up COD2 and look for myself, 360s version is indeed lacking any AA in 720p & 1080i, When I made my comments earlier I was playing the game in 480P mode (which DOES have AA enabled), Why would I play in 480P? Because the framerate remains much smoother versus running it 720 / 1080i. It still looks pretty darn good in 480P especially with the help of AA.

480p Shot - I was zoomed up closer in the 480P shot but you can still note the AA being applied.

1080i Shot

I looked at the differences between the 480p res and 1080p, and the 1080 seems to have more detail of the textures not to mention a larger viewing angle. I don't know if that's just trickery of the angle of the snap shot takin or some other reason.

If I didn't have an HDTV, would the Xbox version be better than a PC CRT with a suitable video card?

of course the 1080i looks better, it's not as far zoomed in so the textures look better and you see more.

So why would one recommend playing at 480p with AA enabled other than 1080p?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: JRW
I stand corrected, After looking at those pics I had to load up COD2 and look for myself, 360s version is indeed lacking any AA in 720p & 1080i, When I made my comments earlier I was playing the game in 480P mode (which DOES have AA enabled), Why would I play in 480P? Because the framerate remains much smoother versus running it 720 / 1080i. It still looks pretty darn good in 480P especially with the help of AA.

480p Shot - I was zoomed up closer in the 480P shot but you can still note the AA being applied.

1080i Shot

I looked at the differences between the 480p res and 1080p, and the 1080 seems to have more detail of the textures not to mention a larger viewing angle. I don't know if that's just trickery of the angle of the snap shot takin or some other reason.

If I didn't have an HDTV, would the Xbox version be better than a PC CRT with a suitable video card?

of course the 1080i looks better, it's not as far zoomed in so the textures look better and you see more.

So why would one recommend playing at 480p with AA enabled other than 1080p?

no i mean the shot he posted, he didnt zoom in as much on the 1080i shot as in the 480p shot. 480p is good for 60fps instead of 30fps and aa.

 

[kki000]

Those screen caps of 480p, 1080i is worth absolutely nothing.
First of all they are not 480p and 1080i. Both shots are 768p or whatever native rez of the plasma that was used.

The first is 768p, fed 480p and the second is 1080i converted to 768p by the panel.
This conversion or scaling is a huge x factoir in examing these shots.

I did my own comparison with my 1080p dlp.
My pc fed 1920x1080p(vga) and the xbox fed 1336x788(vga). (1336 is the highest widescreen rez available via vga)
Even with my tv upconverting the 788p to 1080p, the xbox was surprisingly close in image quality.
I mean frightengly close, in terms of image and gameplay. Only way to tell the difference for me was to walk up real close to a wall or something else that shows the lower rez/compression in the xbox.

The pc was better by a small margin, but dude, you guys nit picking the xb360, yer talking about a 299 box. Its absolutely amazing what ms has done with the hw.
You guys ragging on the fight night graphics.. you obviously havent played the demo or the game. Its an amazing piece of work.

 

[Regs]

Nit picking they are yes. I'm sure most are just playing devils advocate. I don't find any logical reason to say XBOX 360 is a sloppy piece of hardware or why not any one would want to buy one. No one has said anything close to saying the Xbox 360 is not anything short of amazing for the price and visual quality.

 

[Sonikku]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: JRW
I stand corrected, After looking at those pics I had to load up COD2 and look for myself, 360s version is indeed lacking any AA in 720p & 1080i, When I made my comments earlier I was playing the game in 480P mode (which DOES have AA enabled), Why would I play in 480P? Because the framerate remains much smoother versus running it 720 / 1080i. It still looks pretty darn good in 480P especially with the help of AA.

480p Shot - I was zoomed up closer in the 480P shot but you can still note the AA being applied.

1080i Shot

I looked at the differences between the 480p res and 1080p, and the 1080 seems to have more detail of the textures not to mention a larger viewing angle. I don't know if that's just trickery of the angle of the snap shot takin or some other reason.

If I didn't have an HDTV, would the Xbox version be better than a PC CRT with a suitable video card?

If gaming on a PC CRT is just fine for you, just get the VGA adaptor Microsoft offers that would let you play the 360 version in 720p at least on your monitor. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[TheRyuu]

I can't tell the difference between the two. With my setup at 1280x1024 with 4xAA/8xAF (sometimes 16xAF), the game looks fvck'n amazing and the 5min. I played it at Wal-mart suggests to me that the visual quality is nearly identical. Unless your using an HDTV, the visual quality would be better on computer. Now performance is different. Even with dual GT's, that game is so badly programmed that it even slowdowns for me if I crank up everthing too high. But 4xAA works just fine for me.

And for what the graphics chip in the 360 is comparable to a graphics card in PC, well you can't really compare it. It's like comparing apples to orages. 360 has a unified architechture while the PC....and I don't have to answer that. The 360 runs at 640x480 (on regular TV's), while a computer runs at much higher. It's apples to oranges.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

The thing with game systems is that they can play much better because of the programing, since its only one system that will play the game, programers can take advantage of that.
With pc's there are so many diff 3d cards that people use not to mention the processor and even ram and so on..

Example, doom 3 on xbox1 looked amazing, and xbox1 has a 733mhz processor.. couldnt even play doom 3 on pc with that.

I know I'm bad at explaining these kinda things but my point is games on 360 will continue to look better as time goes on without needing an upgrade, while this isn't really true with pc since you have to upgrade 3d card to keep performance with newer games.