Call of Duty 2 (Xbox 360 and PC comparison)

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
It was answer #4, ATI tool did not apply 8xAF. I freely admit my mistake. now move on with your life.

Will do. My work here is now done.

Now for my next trick, I shall get Rollo and Ackmed to admit that they are actually the same person with a dual personality.

 

[MBrown]

Originally posted by: JRW
Some pics I took of COD2 w/ framerate counter if anyones curious how it runs on a 7800gtx 512mb, settings are 1280x800 / 4X AA / Anistropic enabled / All graphic settings maxed / COD2 dual core patch applied.

Link

How did you get the game to benchmark the FPS? I was using fraps.

 

[kylebisme]

Hard to say, but at least the PC version has a decent online interface where on the 360 it has the worst Live support I have ever seen.

 

[BFG10K]

How did you get the game to benchmark the FPS?

cg_drawFPS 1

 

[blckgrffn]

Thanks, BFG, for the FPS command... I'll fire up COD2 on my HTPC and see how it does 4xAA and 8xAF on my 72" in screen and report back... it was running really smoothly for the little I have played. 800*600 is around but higher than 480P resolution, as it is a widescreen format, correct?

*edit - I don't run it widescreen so that I don't have to worry about the projector scaling it.

Nat

 

[PUN]

I've been a PC enthusiast for over 10 years and hated console games until Xbox 360 arrived. For those of you bashing 360, either you have not tried it or played under SD.
I've paired up my Xbox 360 on my 50" HDTV @ 720P and it blows my PC away.
And EA fightnight3 does look like whoever posted the pics (in fact, it looks better on my TV than his image)
COD2 PC 7800GT on 2405FP vs. Xbox360 on HDTV, I'd take 360 anyday. But I prefer to play COD2 on PC because I can never get use to playing FPS with those controllers. I do enjoy the nice graphics.

 

[MBrown]

Originally posted by: PUN
I've been a PC enthusiast for over 10 years and hated console games until Xbox 360 arrived. For those of you bashing 360, either you have not tried it or played under SD.
I've paired up my Xbox 360 on my 50" HDTV @ 720P and it blows my PC away.
And EA fightnight3 does look like whoever posted the pics (in fact, it looks better on my TV than his image)
COD2 PC 7800GT on 2405FP vs. Xbox360 on HDTV, I'd take 360 anyday. But I prefer to play COD2 on PC because I can never get use to playing FPS with those controllers. I do enjoy the nice graphics.

So you'd choose the PC anyday?

 

[Rage187]

I have a highend pc, and a 360.

Graphically PC>>>>Xbox360 graphics

But I prefer the xbox for games.

 

[RussianSensation]

I agree with GOREGRINDER, that AF should be mandatory. Not only is it evident immediately, it results in a smaller performance hit. How many of you sit there and measure jaggies at 1280x1024 in a FPS? I could see how it would be more important in an action game or somewhere where the pace is slow. In COD2, do you really have the time to complain that the cables aren't perfectly straight? I played HL2 on RAdeon 8500 at 800x600 noAA/noAF and still enjoyed the game vastly.

The point is, if you want to play COD2 or powerful games, even on a regular TV, and only have $400 US to spend, you get a console. If you want the best looking setup, please feel free to spend $1400 on 2xR580 cards in 2 weeks and no doubt it'll smoke Xbox360 at 2048x1536 4AA/16AF. At the end, money has a large impact on opinion. Even if Xbox360 doesn't look as good, does spending 2G on a PC make the game look 1.5 grand better than xbox360? We all talk about bang for the buck when we buy new PC rigs, why can't we talk about bang for the buck in this discussion? My P4 3.2ghz and Radeon 8500 and 1 gig of ram system couldn't play doom 3 smoothly for the life of it and sure cost a lot more than inferior Xbox when I bought it in 2003.

 

[mehmetmunur]

Though not about COD2, this is related to HD gaming on big screen.
I jut got my Dell w4201c plasma, and I hooked up my computer via DVI and I have been playing GTA San Andreas (since this is the most console like game that lets me use my xbox controllers), with everything turned up and a little bit of antialiasing. I had been gaming on a 16 inch crt, and though the change was nice, it was nothing to die for. Maybe it is just me, but big screen gaming is nice, but it might not be all it is hyped up to be in the first place. Then again, what do I know? I can't really tell the difference between 10*7 and 12*10 when both have AA/AF turned up....

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: professor1942

Originally posted by: Sonikku
When Gamespot had a side by side comparison between the 360 and the PC version on a top notch rig, they went on to say that if not for the limited multi-player on the 360, it would be the hands-down better version of the two.

Obviously they weren't taking into account the fact that you have to play it with a pair of thumbs on a clumsy gamepad. That would drive me nuts.

well its not as worse as PS2 controller. you literally can't play any FPS on PS3 because controller design sucks for them. XBOX one is playable and Xbox 360 is best controller I have seen so far. Anyways what some people make it controller sound like a horrible for FPS when somearen't but thoes gamers are just ignorant.

I played COD2 all the way through no my pc. Then I went to best by and tried to play in on a xbox360(the demo) and it was horrible. I mean it was like torture, aiming was horrible, i died multiple times on easy/ Granted it;s better than the ps2 pad but that's like saying STar Jones is slightly more attractive than rosie o donnell. Both will make you want to kill yourself.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I played COD2 all the way through no my pc. Then I went to best by and tried to play in on a xbox360(the demo) and it was horrible. I mean it was like torture, aiming was horrible, i died multiple times on easy/ Granted it;s better than the ps2 pad but that's like saying STar Jones is slightly more attractive than rosie o donnell. Both will make you want to kill yourself.

I guess you just aren't used to using a controller... Aiming is very tight on COD2 (for the 360)... One of the best console shooters ever, in terms of controls.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I played COD2 all the way through no my pc. Then I went to best by and tried to play in on a xbox360(the demo) and it was horrible. I mean it was like torture, aiming was horrible, i died multiple times on easy/ Granted it;s better than the ps2 pad but that's like saying STar Jones is slightly more attractive than rosie o donnell. Both will make you want to kill yourself.

I guess you just aren't used to using a controller... Aiming is very tight on COD2 (for the 360)... One of the best console shooters ever, in terms of controls.

Which says nothing. FPS with thumbstick requires auto aiming for a reason. It's awkward at best.

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I played COD2 all the way through no my pc. Then I went to best by and tried to play in on a xbox360(the demo) and it was horrible. I mean it was like torture, aiming was horrible, i died multiple times on easy/ Granted it;s better than the ps2 pad but that's like saying STar Jones is slightly more attractive than rosie o donnell. Both will make you want to kill yourself.

I guess you just aren't used to using a controller... Aiming is very tight on COD2 (for the 360)... One of the best console shooters ever, in terms of controls.

Which says nothing. FPS with thumbstick requires auto aiming for a reason. It's awkward at best.

I actually prefer a mouse and keyboard for FPS, but COD2's aim control was very good, if not the best I've seen on a console. It was akward at first, but once I was used to it, it was impressive for a console. The only other I've seen even close was Quake4, which I was also very impressed with.

As for the OP, I think I actually enjoyed COD2 on the console more than the PC. I only played the demo on PC, but decided immediatly that console was better. Funny thing is, I played all the way through on 480p

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Thorny

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I played COD2 all the way through no my pc. Then I went to best by and tried to play in on a xbox360(the demo) and it was horrible. I mean it was like torture, aiming was horrible, i died multiple times on easy/ Granted it;s better than the ps2 pad but that's like saying STar Jones is slightly more attractive than rosie o donnell. Both will make you want to kill yourself.

I guess you just aren't used to using a controller... Aiming is very tight on COD2 (for the 360)... One of the best console shooters ever, in terms of controls.

I actually prefer a mouse and keyboard for FPS, but COD2's aim control was very good, if not the best I've seen on a console. It was akward at first, but once I was used to it, it was impressive for a console. The only other I've seen even close was Quake4, which I was also very impressed with.

As for the OP, I think I actually enjoyed COD2 on the console more than the PC. I only played the demo on PC, but decided immediatly that console was better. Funny thing is, I played all the way through on 480p

Oh, I'm definitely enjoying it more on the 360 than my PC. But that's probably because it's much more immersive from my couch (HDTV, 5.1DD, etc) than hunched over my desk.

 

[blckgrffn]

Well, I am playing COD2 on my 72" screen using my HTPC and it is pretty awesome. With my 6800GT and 800*600, I am seeing dips to 20 FPS with everything at high + 4xAA and 8xAF enabled. I also have an Audigy2 feeding 5.1 to my surround system and it is great.

What amazes me about COD2 is how playable it is at 30FPS. It seems like games such as UT2k4 seem outright unplayable at that level of performance, but COD2 didn't feel choppy at all and it is only after I fired up the console command to display framerate did I realize how low the FPS was dropping.

How it compares to the 360 gaming experience, I don't know. What I do know, however, is that it can pretty awesome on the PC. If anyone wants, I can send them pictures of it on my projector. It is pretty darn sweet.

Nat

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Well, I am playing COD2 on my 72" screen using my HTPC and it is pretty awesome. With my 6800GT and 800*600, I am seeing dips to 20 FPS with everything at high + 4xAA and 8xAF enabled. I also have an Audigy2 feeding 5.1 to my surround system and it is great.

What amazes me about COD2 is how playable it is at 30FPS. It seems like games such as UT2k4 seem outright unplayable at that level of performance, but COD2 didn't feel choppy at all and it is only after I fired up the console command to display framerate did I realize how low the FPS was dropping.

How it compares to the 360 gaming experience, I don't know. What I do know, however, is that it can pretty awesome on the PC. If anyone wants, I can send them pictures of it on my projector. It is pretty darn sweet.

Nat

You should just run it in DX8, you will enjoy it more at a higher ress w/ a 6800.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Well, I am playing COD2 on my 72" screen using my HTPC and it is pretty awesome. With my 6800GT and 800*600, I am seeing dips to 20 FPS with everything at high + 4xAA and 8xAF enabled. I also have an Audigy2 feeding 5.1 to my surround system and it is great.

What amazes me about COD2 is how playable it is at 30FPS. It seems like games such as UT2k4 seem outright unplayable at that level of performance, but COD2 didn't feel choppy at all and it is only after I fired up the console command to display framerate did I realize how low the FPS was dropping.

How it compares to the 360 gaming experience, I don't know. What I do know, however, is that it can pretty awesome on the PC. If anyone wants, I can send them pictures of it on my projector. It is pretty darn sweet.

Nat

You should just run it in DX8, you will enjoy it more at a higher ress w/ a 6800.

That is native resolution for my DLP projector, and it looks pretty awesome as is You would never realize that it is only 800*600 unless I told you so.

 

[VERTIGGO]

All I know is I spent $480 on my X1900, and on my 244t the game is amazing. My bro down the hall has a 360 and a 42" plasma TV, and it just makes the jaggies worse and the textures obnoxious. Not to mention the lower resolution and inherent fuzziness in a TV setup.

I run at 1920x1200 with 6xADAA and 16XHQAF, and everything maxed. It's a beautiful game.

I just can't believe people say pcs have to "catch up", because what they mean is they need to get rid of their 3 year old rigs and compare a top of the line pc to their 360. The price is only better if you ignore the massive TV required to make it worth it.

 

[elite6]

I think I can be a decent judge between COD 2 on PC and on XBX 360 because I play both of them on the same 19" CRT that does up to 1920x1440. My pc has an X1800XT and a A64 4000+ @ 2.72GHz and when the pc has all the settings maxxed out, it looks slightly better but is slighly less fluid then the 360 version. Either way, the 360 has a lot more power on tap, and COD 2 was a first gen game that was a PC port (or maybe xbx 360 to pc port) so the 360 will have games in the future that'll look a lot better via more utilization and familiarity of the new hardware, and more optimizations. And with COD 2 it comes extremely close and for a system that is 300 bucks...so overall price to performance it edges out as the winner.

I think in the next year and a half, the best looking games will come out, and then the hardware will start to show it's age and pc games will look better (assuming you have upgraded your system)

 

[jim1976]

Pfft.. Xenos.. A low resolution optimized machine with tons of Z aliasing in games and not a shred of AA/AF.. ROFL. And in their good moods(the developers) may put tilling with 2xAA.. LOL
Gimme a break. :disgust:

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: xtx4u
Maybe you aren't sitting close enough to ur HDTV to notice the jaggies. 360's graphic sucks, next-gen my ass it doesn't even have 16x AF hahhahah

If the graphics suck so bad, then how come Fight Night 3 looks the way it does? And if the PC's is so great, then how come the PC has no equivilent character models to FN3?

(See my post above for screenshots... I don't feel like reposting it, yet again.)

i wanna know why theres still no PC race sim comparable to GT4. and thats on the PS2!!!

all the toca race drivers are poor, NFS's are to unreal and ott. nothing comes close to GT4 followed by PGR.

i know theres like only 6 cars on GT4, but damn they look good considering the hardware is like 2000-2001.

 

[Nextman916]

Theres only 6 cars?!?!?!?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Crescent13
From what I have seen/heard, the xbox360 will not support 2xAA until the next generation of games. I think it runs it at 1280x720, no AA, no AF, everything on medium. I also highly doubt VSYNC.

no. The xbox 360GPU doesn't come close to the 7800GTX 512.I think it would be between a 7800 vanilla, and a 7800GT.

There is AA on plenty of games. Maybe even all of them?

And I do think it does have at least the same capabilities of a 7800GTX... Just look at the screenshots for Fight Night 3. There's nothing on the PC that compares, no matter what hardware you have.

And yes, these are actual gameplay screenshots... And yes, it really does look that good!

• Pic 1
• Pic 2
• Pic 3

Wow it really draws those two models well!! Im not impressed. It better look good. It is a square room, a couple lights, some faded background shelves, and two guys pummelling each other.

yup 2 models 1 room unconvincing crowds(a few guys near the ring and they look adequate at best.). Look at pics 1 and 3. Without zooming in it appears there is 0 aa. zooming in, there is confirmed 0x aa.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: JRW
I stand corrected, After looking at those pics I had to load up COD2 and look for myself, 360s version is indeed lacking any AA in 720p & 1080i, When I made my comments earlier I was playing the game in 480P mode (which DOES have AA enabled), Why would I play in 480P? Because the framerate remains much smoother versus running it 720 / 1080i. It still looks pretty darn good in 480P especially with the help of AA.

480p Shot - I was zoomed up closer in the 480P shot but you can still note the AA being applied.

1080i Shot

I looked at the differences between the 480p res and 1080p, and the 1080 seems to have more detail of the textures not to mention a larger viewing angle. I don't know if that's just trickery of the angle of the snap shot takin or some other reason.

If I didn't have an HDTV, would the Xbox version be better than a PC CRT with a suitable video card?