California raises min wage for major chain fast food workers to $20 per hour starting early 2024

[MrSquished]

I rarely have had a mistake made on my fast food order.. But we are all human and mistakes are made.. Nobody gets thru life without making them, even in fast food.

I did get forgotten at the drive thru window not long ago. Gave my ordered, paid.. waited for my food........ waited..... 15 minutes later I finally called inside, when the young man answered I asked if they forgot about me.. he was like "oh shit!". He came to the windows with my order, apologized, asked if I wanted a refund.. I just told him "no, I just have to get to work"... Been to the same establishment many times, same young man has taken care of me.. never a problem. This day, it was extremely slow and he had a brain fart.. it happens. I think he may have had a girlfriend stop by, not sure, but We've all been there at that age..Problem is, as a customer, many people think they should be perfect, never make a mistake and more times than not, an upset customer goes off on them.. We the customers are part of the problem, and one reason they deserve better pay than they get.

They should hear about the mistakes medical professionals make

 

[ch33zw1z]

They should hear about the mistakes medical professionals make

or lawyers, or rocket scientists, any damn near anyone.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Go ef yourself. POS. And imo fast-food workers should only have hs and college kids working there. It should be a stop gap job and not a career. Flame me I don't give a shit. Its an unskilled labor job and shouldn't be a career.

I mean, if it's unskilled, then there wouldn't be any screw-ups with your order, right? There's skill involved with any job, just because they're not a skill you consider worthy of being called "skilled" doesn't mean it's not. I'm curious, have you spent any time in the food service industry? do you currently work in a service related field?

Personally, I think anyone willing to work full-time in whatever industry you'd like to list still deserves a wage good enough to meet the classic american dream.

 

[MrSquished]

It's funny how people say things shouldn't be a career but then we need full-time people to do them. They basically just want a subclass of working poor. Why shouldn't lesser skilled work be paid a living wage? We need food service workers, janitors, construction laborers, bus drivers, etc.. When the pandemic happened, grocery store workers were considered essential.

This is just a way for regressive right wing fucks with no souls or empathy to perpetuate a permanent class of the working poor.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's funny how people say things shouldn't be a career but then we need full-time people to do them. They basically just want a subclass of working poor. Why shouldn't lesser skilled work be paid a living wage? We need food service workers, janitors, construction laborers, bus drivers, etc.. When the pandemic happened, grocery store workers were considered essential.

This is just a way for regressive right wing fucks with no souls or empathy to perpetuate a permanent class of the working poor.

Pretty much, Covid certainly showed us who was essential, and it wasn’t the uppers

 

[darkswordsman17]

So much projection and insecurity in your post.

But I guess thanks for telling us who you really are.

I assume this is what they're like:

 

[VashHT]

or lawyers, or rocket scientists, any damn near anyone.

How about executives? We had a guy who was head of R&D push a pet project for like 2-3 years. At the end of the project they finally showed the new machine to customers and the customers straight up said they didn't want it. Project got cancelled immediately after, probably millions wasted, but they promoted the guy to the board to get him away from actual work.

Another one, when I first started working an executive got kicked out for sexual harassment (that of course had been going on for years), the guy had an $8million golden parachute and got hired again at another company pretty quickly.

So yeah, I don't understand why people flip out so much over fast food workers making a barely liveable wage when there's far worse shit going on all the time.

 

[ch33zw1z]

How about executives? We had a guy who was head of R&D push a pet project for like 2-3 years. At the end of the project they finally showed the new machine to customers and the customers straight up said they didn't want it. Project got cancelled immediately after, probably millions wasted, but they promoted the guy to the board to get him away from actual work.

Another one, when I first started working an executive got kicked out for sexual harassment (that of course had been going on for years), the guy had an $8million golden parachute and got hired again at another company pretty quickly.

So yeah, I don't understand why people flip out so much over fast food workers making a barely liveable wage when there's far worse shit going on all the time.

People groups desire “others” to look down on a persecute. For the US, we like to hate on poors and vulnerable groups like women, minorities, and the younger generation

 

[iRONic]

or lawyers, or rocket scientists, any damn near anyone.

Professional airline pilots…?

*ducks an incoming Jepps manual thrown by skyking*

 

[ch33zw1z]

Professional airline pilots…?

*ducks an incoming Jepps manual thrown by skyking*

There’s many safe guards built into planes nowadays, thankfully.

 

[nakedfrog]

Go ef yourself. POS. And imo fast-food workers should only have hs and college kids working there. It should be a stop gap job and not a career. Flame me I don't give a shit. Its an unskilled labor job and shouldn't be a career.

Who is supposed to serve you your lunchtime order then? Daytime is classically a popular time for high school and college classes to take place. Probably they should all be required to be closed after 9PM too, to ensure these kids can get adequate rest.
What about the elderly who don't make enough to get by on social security? Sucks to be them, I guess, they can starve and go without medications.

 

[NWRMidnight]

It's my opinion. Don't like it don't read it.

How the hell are you supposed to know if you like it or not without reading it? You really didn't think that thru, now did you?

 

[brycejones]

How the hell are you supposed to know if you like it or not without reading it? You really didn't think that thru, now did you?

From his other posts in this thread I think that's about the limit of his capabilities.

 

[NWRMidnight]

From his other posts in this thread I think that's about the limit of his capabilities.

but don't they have to read those as well to come to such a conclusion?

 

[MrSquished]

How the hell are you supposed to know if you like it or not without reading it? You really didn't think that thru, now did you?

Besides not having a heart or a shred of empathy, he is clearly lacking in the brain thinking department as well.

 

[JEDI]

There’s many safe guards built into planes nowadays, thankfully.

Or they fixed the safeguards

I'm going to be flying on a Boeing 737 Max jet

Hope they fixed the sudden nose dive into the ground problem :o /Obligatory You can has my stuff

forums.anandtech.com

 

[ch33zw1z]

Or they fixed the safeguards

I'm going to be flying on a Boeing 737 Max jet

Hope they fixed the sudden nose dive into the ground problem :o /Obligatory You can has my stuff

forums.anandtech.com

Right, and those are engineered by humans. We all make mistakes from time to time. Hating on people you deem lower than you is no way to deal with it, but it’s often the path humans take.

 

[Ajay]

Maybe this is already in this thread somewhere:


A quick calc shows that my $3.35 minimum wage job in College should be $15 today, just accounting for inflation (NH). And yet, we have the map above. So many people would be bumped up to lower middle class if we had a fair national minimum wage that at least kept up with inflation. Honestly, companies in the US are truly robber barons.

 

[dainthomas]

I feel like I'm the only person who never gets my order wrong at fast food places, seriously can't remember it ever happening.

My girlfriend customizes everything, and when I order with her it often gets screwed up. When by myself I customize nothing and my order never gets screwed up.

 

[IronWing]

Maybe this is already in this thread somewhere:
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A quick calc shows that my $3.35 minimum wage job in College should be $15 today, just accounting for inflation (NH). And yet, we have the map above. So many people would be bumped up to lower middle class if we had a fair national minimum wage that at least kept up with inflation. Honestly, companies in the US are truly robber barons.

Note that the only reason Arizona's minimum wage is as high as it is only because of a voter referendum. The Republican state legislature fought tooth and nail to prevent the increase. The referendum will push the minimum wage to $15/hour starting in 2025. After that, we'll have to have another vote.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Maybe this is already in this thread somewhere:
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A quick calc shows that my $3.35 minimum wage job in College should be $15 today, just accounting for inflation (NH). And yet, we have the map above. So many people would be bumped up to lower middle class if we had a fair national minimum wage that at least kept up with inflation. Honestly, companies in the US are truly robber barons.

and if minimum wage kept up with productivity, rather than strictly inflation ($21/hr), it would be somewhere in the area of $24-27/hr. Which shockingly, is totally livable! Both would be a drastic improvement over our existing minimum wages, though

American workers would make more than $20 an hour if minimum wage kept pace with productivity, an economist says

A higher minimum wage would supercharge the economy, says Dean Baker, as workers would have more money to spend in their communities.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[brycejones]

and if minimum wage kept up with productivity, rather than strictly inflation ($21/hr), it would be somewhere in the area of $24-27/hr. Which shockingly, is totally livable! Both would be a drastic improvement over our existing minimum wages, though

American workers would make more than $20 an hour if minimum wage kept pace with productivity, an economist says

A higher minimum wage would supercharge the economy, says Dean Baker, as workers would have more money to spend in their communities.

www.businessinsider.com

But wouldn't that mean shorter range jets and smaller yachts for the wealthy? What kind of communist hell do you expect them to live in?

 

[darkswordsman17]

But wouldn't that mean shorter range jets and smaller yachts for the wealthy? What kind of communist hell do you expect them to live in?

China? North Korea? Those seem to be more fitting for their preferred social structures.

Who is supposed to serve you your lunchtime order then? Daytime is classically a popular time for high school and college classes to take place. Probably they should all be required to be closed after 9PM too, to ensure these kids can get adequate rest.
What about the elderly who don't make enough to get by on social security? Sucks to be them, I guess, they can starve and go without medications.

Well if that dipshit wasn't such a fucking loserass peasant maybe he could afford a private chef and live up to his fast food elitist ideals. Hmm, wasn't there some really famous guy that was prone to bitching about stuff like minimum wage often getting enraged when people would point out what a raging moron he was, and also had some weird fast food obsession, like so much so that they would get McDonalds when they had a chef available on call to make pretty much whatever they wanted whenever they wanted? Who was that?

 

[Ajay]

and if minimum wage kept up with productivity, rather than strictly inflation ($21/hr), it would be somewhere in the area of $24-27/hr. Which shockingly, is totally livable! Both would be a drastic improvement over our existing minimum wages, though

American workers would make more than $20 an hour if minimum wage kept pace with productivity, an economist says

A higher minimum wage would supercharge the economy, says Dean Baker, as workers would have more money to spend in their communities.

www.businessinsider.com

Yep - 85% of productivity gains went to the C-Suites and investors. Employees, apparently, are only cost centers - contributing nothing to corporate profitability.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yep - 85% of productivity gains went to the C-Suites and investors. Employees, apparently, are only cost centers - contributing nothing to corporate profitability.

I always said to myself, just another entry in the spreadsheet.