California Drought: How Stupid Can We Be?

[disappoint]

Don't worry, Red Squirrel has figured out a way with "lenses and mirrors" to provide the roughly 4576.14 mW needed to use simple distillation to desalinate that much water. I am not even factoring in that it is California, and water boils more easily there, apparently.

4.6 watts? To desalinate how many cups of water?

 

[who?]

Acre feet is a volume measurement like gallons or liters just a LOT bigger.

 

[natto fire]

4.6 watts? To desalinate how many cups of water?

Damn you for my mistake of milli to mega. Blame it on the rain...

That's what I get for shunning GW.

Just as a refresher (this is ATOT) you cannot compress a liquid!

 

[disappoint]

Damn you for my mistake of milli to mega. Blame it on the rain...

That's what I get for shunning GW.

Just as a refresher (this is ATOT) you cannot compress a liquid!

Hehe no worries, everyone makes mistakes now and then. Even me.
NOT REALLY NO.

 

[AdamK47]

White text on this light grey forum background is very easy to read with an IPS monitor. Just an FYI to those with crappy TN monitors.

 

[disappoint]

White text on this light grey forum background is very easy to read with an IPS monitor. Just an FYI to those with crappy TN monitors.

I can see it on my crappy TN panel too. Probably because of the huge font I chose. Oh well. I actually have an IPS panelled tablet and now I'm curious as to how much easier it is to read on there.

Edit: Looks the same on the tablet with an IPS panel. oh well.

 

[zerocool84]

Some of you say California is a desert, not even half of it is a desert. The amount of people that actually live in the desert parts is miniscule compared to the good weather parts like LA, San Diego, San Francisco.

 

[feralkid]

The big problem isn't the lack of water, its the left wing idiots that occupy the state. Everyone else should fix the problem and they should do what they want. Well screw Cali. It deserves the fate it gets.

Gee whiz, rudeguy, even Jerry Falwell doesn't blame the weather on liberals. Or maybe he does?

I'm starting to worry about you.

 

[DrPizza]

Damn you for my mistake of milli to mega. Blame it on the rain...

That's what I get for shunning GW.

Just as a refresher (this is ATOT) you cannot compress a liquid!

Just as an unrefresher, about 1000 atmospheres of pressure reduces the volume of water by about 5%. You mean, "not significantly compressible." And, it hurts my brain to think about it, but could a pressure wave (shock waves, sound) propagate through water if it was absolutely incompressible?

 

[DrPizza]

Oh, and I came here to say, California might be saved by El Nino if it forms this summer.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Just as an unrefresher, about 1000 atmospheres of pressure reduces the volume of water by about 5%. You mean, "not significantly compressible." And, it hurts my brain to think about it, but could a pressure wave (shock waves, sound) propagate through water if it was absolutely incompressible?

Nope. It would reflect.

 

[disappoint]

Just as an unrefresher, about 1000 atmospheres of pressure reduces the volume of water by about 5%. You mean, "not significantly compressible." And, it hurts my brain to think about it, but could a pressure wave (shock waves, sound) propagate through water if it was absolutely incompressible?

I was going to post that but I didn't want to pour salt on the wound after seeing his reaction to my earlier correction.

Why does it hurt your brain to think about it? Were you worried we'd bring propagation of electrons or electric fields that could carry the information of sound waves through the medium?

Although maybe they could, that wouldn't count as propagating sound waves which are very different.

Actually the question you posed is an impossible one because as far as we know there is no such thing as an incompressible medium which can be proven by sound waves themselves:

The more incompressible, or put another way, the more rigid the structure the faster the sound wave propagates. An incompressible medium would cause the wave to travel instantaneously which is not possible as that would cause instantaneous information propagation, an impossibility as far as we know(why do I say that sometimes?* ).

This might bring up the question of singularities such as black holes. What if the medium they are made of has been compressed to the maximum limit making them incompressible any further? Is that then an example of the existence of a substance I just said earlier is impossible? Maybe. The truth is we don't know what black holes are made of. Sure we can give it a name, assign a label to it and call it a day. But our math breaks down and physics doesn't have an answer for what goes on there. So far. As far as I know. That could change. *So that's why I say that sometimes. It's really as far as I know. Today. Tomorrow is a different day.

 

[DrPizza]

Why does it hurt your brain to think about it? Were you worried we'd bring propagation of electrons or electric fields that could carry the information of sound waves through the medium?

Because I was overthinking it, using the fluid properties of water. E.g., if you had an uncompressible steel rod, tapping the right end results in the left end instantly moving. But, that "tap" in an incompressible liquid could move in all directions, and reflect off surfaces... and if, say, the surfaces were against a compressible medium, the reflection..

Okay, mental idea - suspend a water balloon. Tap it really hard with your finger on one side, indenting the side by 1/4" or so. That volume of water isn't decreasing by the volume of the indentation; and can be thought of as a sort of signal. Now, imagine a really, really long balloon; I don't think the "signal" related to the flow of the water would arrive at the other end instantaneously. And then, there are all the reflections off the surfaces as they move outward and inward again, all the constructive and destructive interference; But, can it be thought of as sound? Now, instead of a single 1cm tap, what about a lot of tiny taps, at 15kHz... - That's sort of where I was going in my head. E.g., if there WERE an incompressible liquid...

 

[rudeguy]

Gee whiz, rudeguy, even Jerry Falwell doesn't blame the weather on liberals. Or maybe he does?

I'm starting to worry about you.

If this problem has existed for hundreds of years, yet the people in charge (libtards) keep ignoring it, then who is to blame?

As long as I have benough alive cali has been in a drought. Instead of getting serious, they focus on other things. And still now there is no sense of urgency.

Let them shrivel up and die if they can't fix it. They've had at least 300 years to address it.

 

[Ns1]

Let them shrivel up and die if they can't fix it. They've had at least 300 years to address it.

Lolololol

 

[The Boston Dangler]

If this problem has existed for hundreds of years, yet the people in charge (libtards) keep ignoring it, then who is to blame?

As long as I have benough alive cali has been in a drought. Instead of getting serious, they focus on other things. And still now there is no sense of urgency.

Let them shrivel up and die if they can't fix it. They've had at least 300 years to address it.

you went full retard

 

[vailr]

Maybe there should be a special export tax for almonds?:

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/mar...-boom-strains-california-water-supply-n130586
Asia’s love of nuts is draining California dry. Amid one of the worst droughts in the state’s history, farmers are scrambling to find enough water to irrigate lucrative almond trees they planted after abandoning other, less thirsty crops.

Ten years ago, almonds covered 570,000 acres and produced just over 1 billion pounds of nuts. Now, almond orchards produce nearly 2 billion pounds of nuts a year on about 860,000 acres of California farmland, said Richard Waycott, the president and chief executive officer of the California Almond Board, an industry trade group based in Modesto. The board valued the 2013 crop at nearly $5 billion, up from $1.2 billion a decade earlier.

 

[who?]

California only gets rain from January through March in a typical year which seems pretty desert like. Maybe they should get rid of all the Palm trees which are non-indigenous and probably suck up a lot of water.

 

[who?]

Some of you say California is a desert, not even half of it is a desert. The amount of people that actually live in the desert parts is miniscule compared to the good weather parts like LA, San Diego, San Francisco.

San Francisco gets its water from the Sierra Nevada mountains;http://bawsca.org/water-supply/hetch-hetchy-water-system/

Los Angeles gets much of its water from the Owens Valley to the north;
http://www.water-ed.org/watersources/community.asp?rid=9&cid=562
http://www.aquafornia.com/index.php/where-does-southern-californias-water-come-from/

Los Angeles not being a desert is an illusion.

 

[who?]

Of course even New York City has to import much of its water;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_system

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Some of you say California is a desert, not even half of it is a desert. The amount of people that actually live in the desert parts is miniscule compared to the good weather parts like LA, San Diego, San Francisco.

LA and SD are deserts to me. They both feel very "artificially green" to me and get very little rain. I'm due east a few hundreds miles right now, and the few drives I've made have gone something like

1) high altitude mountain desert terrain
2) hell on earth
3) mountain desert + ocean

That's not a bad thing though. I love the desert climate (as long as it isn't Mojave). It's way, way, way way way way better than east coast humid, sleet, rain, snow, cloudy gray, cold, dark and dismal, etc.

 

[who?]

Some years LA gets so little rain that it qualifies as a desert (<10"), some years it gets more.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Of course even New York City has to import much of its water;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_system

i'll guess just about every city imports its water. there's no way 600k - 30m people are satisfying their water demand with what's directly under them.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Oh, and I came here to say, California might be saved by El Nino if it forms this summer.

 

[moonbogg]

The drought is bullshit. They are talking about surface water collection being less than usual. Most water comes from the water tables below while surface water (from rain) is only a small percentage of California's water supply.
I know this. I watched something on Netflix about California's water supply. Am I an expert? You bet your ass I am.