California Drought: How Stupid Can We Be?

[lupi]

Couple more nuke plants and you could run all the desalination plants you'd desire.

 

[norseamd]

Couple more nuke plants and you could run all the desalination plants you'd desire.

can you run them off fission power

 

[norseamd]

LOL! PM me a link to this conversation if you have it or at least a thread where it started. I'd love to read some of that mess.

anyways i probably should not have even said anything

i more said anything because you noticed something was amiss

he is probably just trolling for some lol

 

[Sinsear]

norseshit

 

[rockyct]

agreed, so to the rest of the nation: enjoy your higher food prices

Sounds good to me.

according to wiki:
"The majority of California water is used by the agricultural industry. About 80-85% of all developed water in California is used for agricultural purposes. This water irrigates almost 29 million acres (120,000 km2), which grows 350 different crops. Agricultural water usage varies depending on the amount of rainfall each year. Urban users consume 10% of the water, or around 8,700,000 acre feet (10.7 km3).[8] Industry receives the remnant of the water supply.

California has done a lot of work on urban water projects. Orange County is completely toilet to tap as it pumps filtered wastewater into an area where it recharges the aquifer that they draw their water from. San Diego has toilet to tap for all landscaping for city needs and businesses. Carlsbad is constructing a desalinization plant which is a bit ahead of schedule although still won't open for a couple more years. San Diego actually is fine for 2014 as our reserves are still quite full. There is still a lot more to do, but California has not ignored previous draughts and is spending a lot of money to get cities off of the aqueduct system.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sounds good to me.

according to wiki:
"The majority of California water is used by the agricultural industry. About 80-85% of all developed water in California is used for agricultural purposes. This water irrigates almost 29 million acres (120,000 km2), which grows 350 different crops. Agricultural water usage varies depending on the amount of rainfall each year. Urban users consume 10% of the water, or around 8,700,000 acre feet (10.7 km3).[8] Industry receives the remnant of the water supply.

California has done a lot of work on urban water projects. Orange County is completely toilet to tap as it pumps filtered wastewater into an area where it recharges the aquifer that they draw their water from. San Diego has toilet to tap for all landscaping for city needs and businesses. Carlsbad is constructing a desalinization plant which is a bit ahead of schedule although still won't open for a couple more years. San Diego actually is fine for 2014 as our reserves are still quite full. There is still a lot more to do, but California has not ignored previous draughts and is spending a lot of money to get cities off of the aqueduct system.

Kudos to us! :thumbsup:

 

[waggy]

For all that bounty, half of California's water use is not for crops, pools, poop, industry, or lawns. Half is used for irrigated pastures and feed for cattle. Raising cattle in a desert is stupid beyond stupid.

/this

i never understood it either.

 

[techie81]

I also find it to be fantasy. Only complaints over the last year(s) have been the alarming lack of rain.

Granted, I and pretty much anyone complains about rain: This just in! Humans tend to not prefer rain when they want to be outside!

But I will do that wherever I am.

I have lived in the bay area my whole life and people constantly bitch about the rain. Yes, that includes last winter and this spring.

I personally love the rain and prefer it to sunshine.

 

[Sinsear]

norseshit


Take your thread crapping, no content attacks elsewhere.

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[RadiclDreamer]

You can have some of the rain we have been getting on the east coast, pickup only

 

[Todd33]

no shit

Then when they actually get rain, they complain about it and act like the world is ending.

Here's the thing: if you build a massive city in a place that doesn't get much rain, you're going to have water issues. Stealing water from other parts of the state only partially solves that problem.

The big problem isn't the lack of water, its the left wing idiots that occupy the state. Everyone else should fix the problem and they should do what they want. Well screw Cali. It deserves the fate it gets.

Last I checked So Cal steal all the water and they are not left wing.

 

[Kelvrick]

Last I checked So Cal steal all the water and they are not left wing.

California is left wing along the coast with those hippies moving inland towards Sacramento and in the LA/OC/SD areas. Almost everywhere else is conservative. Too bad those urban areas contain so many people, they usually drown out the rural areas in regards to politics.

San Francisco and San Jose combined with that giant metropolis that is Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Diego has a lot of money/people behind their generally liberal ways. Orange County used to be pretty conservative, but times are changing.

 

[JulesMaximus]

California is left wing along the coast with those hippies moving inland towards Sacramento and in the LA/OC/SD areas. Almost everywhere else is conservative. Too bad those urban areas contain so many people, they usually drown out the rural areas in regards to politics.

San Francisco and San Jose combined with that giant metropolis that is Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Diego has a lot of money/people behind their generally liberal ways. Orange County used to be pretty conservative, but times are changing.

Orange County and San Diego are both still fairly conservative actually.

 

[kt]

Couple more nuke plants and you could run all the desalination plants you'd desire.

Or California could just somehow harvest the energy off all the California haters. That should provide them more than enough energy to run all their desalination plants. Rudeguy alone probably could power a few plants himself.

 

[Markbnj]

ya'll realize the part of CA that's actually screwed provides food for the rest of the country right?

I knew this, but I'm curious as to why it evolved that way. It has to be more political than rational. The whole central valley requires massive irrigation in order to be productive. Wouldn't it make more sense to grow those veggies in other states that have water?

 

[WelshBloke]

I knew this, but I'm curious as to why it evolved that way. It has to be more political than rational. The whole central valley requires massive irrigation in order to be productive. Wouldn't it make more sense to grow those veggies in other states that have water?

Presumably that would happen if the cost of growing goes up in California?

One thing that you're not short on in the USA is land, and land with a massive variation in climate as well.

 

[kt]

I knew this, but I'm curious as to why it evolved that way. It has to be more political than rational. The whole central valley requires massive irrigation in order to be productive. Wouldn't it make more sense to grow those veggies in other states that have water?

Weather? These veggies are practically grown year round.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

San Diego actually is fine for 2014 as our reserves are still quite full. There is still a lot more to do, but California has not ignored previous draughts and is spending a lot of money to get cities off of the aqueduct system.

doesn't san diego import all of its water, since the ground water was completely contaminated?

California is left wing along the coast with those hippies moving inland towards Sacramento and in the LA/OC/SD areas. Almost everywhere else is conservative. Too bad those urban areas contain so many people, they usually drown out the rural areas in regards to politics.

San Francisco and San Jose combined with that giant metropolis that is Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Diego has a lot of money/people behind their generally liberal ways. Orange County used to be pretty conservative, but times are changing.

are you complaining that a major city has more influence than a village of 300 people? forget democracy, that's been a fact of life since before the pyramids.

 

[waggy]

Weather? These veggies are practically grown year round.

pretty much. some crops need a longer growing time then what the midewest can give. While we have enough rain we also have less sunshine and warm weather.

some crops like soy and corn we are perfect for.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I knew this, but I'm curious as to why it evolved that way. It has to be more political than rational. The whole central valley requires massive irrigation in order to be productive. Wouldn't it make more sense to grow those veggies in other states that have water?

because california + irrigation = perfect growing and economic conditions.

iirc, most farmed fish are raised in the desert, but that's nothing compared to the water and energy demand for growing produce. also, how would all that shitty desert get converted into suitable farmland? what kind of produce would blazing sun and constant 100 degree days and freezing nights yield?

 

[rockyct]

doesn't san diego import all of its water, since the ground water was completely contaminated?



are you complaining that a major city has more influence than a village of 300 people? forget democracy, that's been a fact of life since before the pyramids.

Most of San Diego's ground water is too salty but we still get a little from them. About half comes from the Colorado River Delta and about 30% is from the Sacramento River delta. The remaining 20% is from the aquifers and reservoirs. We do use those reservoirs to hold water we import from the wet years so that's why we are ok right now.

 

[lxskllr]

Why not just tell the entire 1/3 westen US including the mid west that they're being stupid by settling there.

The Midwest is currently living on borrowed time. They WILL run out of water, and unlike california, never had that much rain in the first place.

The Dust Bowl 2.0 won't be fun.

I heard recently that the recent past "wetness" of CA was an anomaly, and it's historically been drier. It's just correcting back to where it should be. Sucks for CA :^D

 

[qliveur]

no

involves america and politics and it is not just him

Wrong.

It involves your insistence on hanging out where you're obviously unwelcome because you're so fucking annoying.

Christ, you are dense.

 

[master_shake_]

dear california,

see this. 84 percent of North Americas fresh water.

its delicious and sometimes i leave the tap on for no reason .

 

[rudeguy]

dear california,

see this. 84 percent of North Americas fresh water.

its delicious and sometimes i leave the tap on for no reason .

I always flush twice. Just to be sure.