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Talk show host Ward charged with Internet kiddie porn
Jaxon Van Derbeken,Elizabeth Fernandez, Chronicle Staff Writers

Friday, December 7, 2007

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(12-07) 04:00 PST (12-06) San Francisco - -- More than three years ago, Bernie Ward, a popular San Francisco liberal radio talk show host and former Catholic priest, got on the Internet and downloaded and sent out images of child pornography. He even talked about it in an Internet chat room.

The 56-year-old local personality - the host of a nightly news talk program on KGO 810 AM as well as "God Talk" on Sundays - says he was doing research.

But on Thursday, Ward was indicted by a grand jury on two federal counts of Internet child pornography - allegations that he possessed and distributed images using his computer.

Ward's attorney, Doron Weinberg, said Thursday that for the past three years, he and other attorneys have been trying to convince the federal government that Ward is not a sexual predator, that he was simply doing research for a book on hypocrisy in America and was not engaged in anything more.

"The government knows that Bernie was doing this for an investigation he was doing for a book," said Weinberg, who appeared in federal court as Ward's lawyer and arranged the posting of a $250,000 bail bond. "But the government believes he violated the letter of the law, and they have gone ahead and prosecuted him."

As part of the research for the book, Ward - a married father of four - downloaded a few images of child pornography, Weinberg acknowledged.

In a brief interview, Ward said he "thought it was time to expose the dirty secret of the Internet in a book."

Federal authorities learned about Ward's activities in December 2004, Weinberg said, adding: "The fact that these events happened three years ago - and they are just being prosecuted - shows the fact that nobody believes that he is a child predator.

"He is just being prosecuted for a mistake he made (more than) three years ago."

Federal authorities seized Ward's computer in early 2005, and there was no evidence of child pornography or any other impropriety, Weinberg said.

"We have been trying to convince the government that this is not something they should proceed with. They said, 'He violated the law, sorry.' "

Authorities in the case noted that Ward was monitored as he went on a chat room and sent and received images, sources familiar with the case said. Weinberg did not comment on the details of those accusations, other than to confirm that his client is accused of distribution of images.

The possession of child pornography alone is a felony, without regard to intent, according to federal statutes. Federal law allows for the accidental discovery of three images or less to be forgiven, as long as the matter is promptly reported or that the images are immediately destroyed. There is no indication that Ward took such steps.

The minimum penalty is five years per image.

Federal authorities, citing a seal on the indictment against Ward, would not outline the details of the accusations. A San Francisco grand jury heard the case, which was handled by the U.S. Department of Justice because the U.S. attorney at the time - Kevin Ryan - asserted a conflict of interest that recused local federal prosecutors.

"I'd like to say what this is not," Ward told The Chronicle late Thursday. "It's not child abuse. It wasn't solicitation. I wasn't part of any ring. Most importantly, there was nothing on my computer. None of this was for titillation or entertainment."

He said he hopes that the charges "don't overshadow the fact that I've spent most of my life serving people. Everything I've done in my life has been with good intentions."

A statement from KGO radio called Ward "a valued, longtime employee."

"We were just recently made aware of these serious charges and are surprised and concerned by their nature," read the statement, in which the station said it would have no further comment. Ward's last show was Tuesday night; a substitute will take over his 10 p.m.-to-1 a.m. slot until further notice, the station said.

Born and raised in San Francisco, Ward graduated from St. Ignatius High School and, in 1973, from the University of San Francisco.

In 1977, he earned a theology degree from the Franciscan School of Theology in Berkeley. The same year, he was ordained to the priesthood with the Society of the Precious Blood. Ward left the priesthood after two years. He has said that he wanted a wife and child and believed he could continue to serve God outside the clergy. He married a physician and they had four children.

After leaving the priesthood, Ward taught at Cardinal Newman High School in Santa Rosa and at Bellarmine College Preparatory in San Jose. From 1982 to 1985 he worked for then-Rep. Barbara Boxer as her chief legislative assistant.

He joined KGO in 1985, initially as a fill-in talk show host, then as a general assignment reporter, then as political reporter. He has won numerous national awards for his reporting, including an Associated Press award for his coverage of riots in Los Angeles.

In the mid-1990s, he partnered with reporters from the San Francisco Examiner on a series of investigative stories exposing financial and sexual improprieties within the San Francisco Archdiocese. He won a national award for those stories.

Billed by his station as "the lion of the left," he has appeared regularly on national television in recent years, railing against the Bush administration and the war in Iraq.

"His listeners adore him; he has a very devoted audience," said Margo Magowan, who for six years was producer of Ward's nightly broadcast. "He's always been a wonderful person to work with. And he is such a wonderful father. During commercial breaks, his kids would call him. Bernie would drop everything to solve whatever crisis came up, whether it was a homework problem or somebody locking themselves in the bathroom. Then he went back on air without missing a beat."

For 22 years, he spent his Sunday mornings behind the microphone on the show that he created and has said was closest to his heart - "God Talk." Ward discussed a wide range of topics, from spirituality to the Christian message of helping the poor. He also focused on misdeeds within organized religion, especially his own faith, making him a controversial and provocative figure. He created the irreverent "Church of the Holy Donut," which now has 7,000 members.

Every Thanksgiving, he led a charity drive that has raised about $5 million. Several years ago, as part of the station's fund-raising drive for leukemia, he sat on a billboard for 24 hours to raise $75,000.

On Thursday, members of his "flock" called Ward a tireless champion for social justice.

"Our heart goes out to Bernie and his family," said Poncho Guevara, executive director of Sacred Heart Community Service in San Jose. "Bernie has been an incredible leader. His approach is not only to talk about what is broken in society, but to inspire people to fix it."

Susan Prather, founder and executive director of Fresh Start, a Walnut Creek organization that helps the poor and homeless, credited Ward with saving her program seven years ago when funds had run out.

"There would be no Fresh Start without Bernie Ward," she said. "He raised $35,000 for us in 10 days. It kept our doors open.

"I think Bernie is one of a kind. He has a huge heart. He has never been cautious. Like many people he was ignorant of the law, he made a mistake and it is tragic. People who know him know that in no way is this Bernie Ward."

 

Thump553

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<-- Never heard, or heard of, Ward before.

I don't think justice is served by prejudging this matter on the basis of a news article. Anyone who has first hand experience with events reported in the media is all too well aware of the oversimplification, bias slants and outright distortions that go on.

This could very well turn out like the Pete Townshend case. Aging rocker from a notoriously wild band gets busted on kiddie porn charges. Seems open & shut, right? Turns out that Townshend (apparently a relative neophyte to the internet) started browsing, ran across kiddie porn, was shocked and reported his findings and turned the pictures over to the British police. The British police started an investigation based on what Townshend provided, busted a whole bunch of people, including Townshend-for possessing what he initially turned over to them to start the investigation. Eventually all charges were dropped against Townshend. Conclusion: you don't have to be a Duke lacrosse player to be railroaded by a publicity seeking, ethically lacking, prosecutor.

I wouldn't say any different if this was Rush Limbaugh (on yet another drug bust). Let the case develop before reaching any conclusions.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Kadarin

Hey, it worked for Pete Townsend...

One would think if you are going to research a topic like child pornography, you would realize how serious law enforcement is towards offenders. So why is it so hard for these child porn "researchers" to figure that out.

I recently saw a news segment about how easy it was to buy a persons identity. The reporter did not go out any contact a seller then break the law by purchasing an identity along with credit card numbers. Nope, they visited a law enforcement office and gathered information through them. The undercover agents even made a bulk purchase on names for the camera.

Could this guy with all of his media clout not gone out and conctaced some law enforcement agencies for assistance?

Downloading child porn is illegal regardless of intent.

 

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Kadarin

Hey, it worked for Pete Townsend...

One would think if you are going to research a topic like child pornography, you would realize how serious law enforcement is towards offenders. So why is it so hard for these child porn "researchers" to figure that out.

I recently saw a news segment about how easy it was to buy a persons identity. The reporter did not go out any contact a seller then break the law by purchasing an identity along with credit card numbers. Nope, they visited a law enforcement office and gathered information through them. The undercover agents even made a bulk purchase on names for the camera.

Could this guy with all of his media clout not gone out and conctaced some law enforcement agencies for assistance?

Downloading child porn is illegal regardless of intent.

Very good point. His excuse is a very poor one.
 

0roo0roo

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i used to listen to him, but i just got tired of talk radio ranting in general.
he didnt really come off like a pedo:p
he's not diddling his daughters since they seem pretty mentally ok
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: eskimospy

I don't think frivolous means what you think it means. And what's up with the Baghdad by the Bay thing? Not only is San Francisco an amazing city, but Muslim nations are usually very socially conservative, not liberal... so that doesn't make much sense. That, and I think the quote meant it in a pejorative sense, but Baghdad is now the seat of our 'allies' in Iraq?

That whole name calling thing just didn't seem very well thought out.

<<That all being said, is anyone surprised this guy ended up being a pedophile? I mean look at his picture, that thing screams sex offender.

Yeah, you can spot them a mile away. If thin-slicing is good for predicting who will get a divorce, I wonder what it can do for catching criminals?

Hrmm, I can't tell but you know I was joking right? His picture does look pretty molester-y though you must admit.

It is rather...Rovian
 

chucky2

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Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on ...

Weeeeeeeell . . . .

Smoking Gun Link

Yikes...this guy should have went the shoe tapping route...lots easier to lie about.

Where are all the outraged liberals in P&N, shouting from the rooftops the hypocrisy of this guy as they did about the Republicans when they were caught?

Chuck
 

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The minimum penalty is five years per image.

Yikes, talk about the penalty not meeting the crime. What's the penalty for a video, that's 30 images per second!
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: chucky2
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on ...

Weeeeeeeell . . . .

Smoking Gun Link

Yikes...this guy should have went the shoe tapping route...lots easier to lie about.

Where are all the outraged liberals in P&N, shouting from the rooftops the hypocrisy of this guy as they did about the Republicans when they were caught?

Chuck

I've never heard of this guy. It's not like he's an ELECTED official, or is he?
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: chucky2
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on ...

Weeeeeeeell . . . .

Smoking Gun Link

Yikes...this guy should have went the shoe tapping route...lots easier to lie about.

Where are all the outraged liberals in P&N, shouting from the rooftops the hypocrisy of this guy as they did about the Republicans when they were caught?

Chuck

I've never heard of this guy. It's not like he's an ELECTED official, or is he?


Someone is having a hard time reading I see. No, he is not an elected official, he is a liberal talk show host. But I guarantee he was ripping into the moron republicans like Mark Foley for doing the same thing. I would die to hear some clips of this guy bash them for that.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: chucky2
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on ...

Weeeeeeeell . . . .

Smoking Gun Link

Yikes...this guy should have went the shoe tapping route...lots easier to lie about.

Where are all the outraged liberals in P&N, shouting from the rooftops the hypocrisy of this guy as they did about the Republicans when they were caught?

Chuck

I've never heard of this guy. It's not like he's an ELECTED official, or is he?


Someone is having a hard time reading I see. No, he is not an elected official, he is a liberal talk show host. But I guarantee he was ripping into the moron republicans like Mark Foley for doing the same thing. I would die to hear some clips of this guy bash them for that.

You mean like Newt cheating on his wife while he was busy trying to impeach Clinton for cheating on his wife?

Both sides of the political spectrum have there fair share of low-lifes, but the GOP seems to have so many more of them.... and in ELECTED positions to boot. The partisian hacks see this as an opprtunity to try and "take back some ground" as it were.

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?
 

eits

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TehMac
Oops

In a shocking development from San Francisco, longtime liberal talk show host Bernie Ward has apparently been indicted on charges related to child pornography, according to several sources in Baghdad-By-The-Bay.

Well...he did believe in the First Amendment a little too frivolously I suppose.

I don't think frivolous means what you think it means. And what's up with the Baghdad by the Bay thing? Not only is San Francisco an amazing city, but Muslim nations are usually very socially conservative, not liberal... so that doesn't make much sense. That, and I think the quote meant it in a pejorative sense, but Baghdad is now the seat of our 'allies' in Iraq?

That whole name calling thing just didn't seem very well thought out.

That all being said, is anyone surprised this guy ended up being a pedophile? I mean look at his picture, that thing screams sex offender.


agreed. he's got the pedosmile.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
You mean like Newt cheating on his wife while he was busy trying to impeach Clinton for cheating on his wife?

Both sides of the political spectrum have there fair share of low-lifes, but the GOP seems to have so many more of them.... and in ELECTED positions to boot. The partisian hacks see this as an opprtunity to try and "take back some ground" as it were.

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for cheating on his wife.

Only a true liberal like yourself would put distributing child porn and cheating on your wife in the same category.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
For all those who have predisposed ideas of what a pedophile would look like, would you have thought this to be a picture of a pedophile?

Debra Lafave

Of course I can see the pedo in those eyes....you can just tell the devil is in there somewhere. ;) lol

 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
You mean like Newt cheating on his wife while he was busy trying to impeach Clinton for cheating on his wife?

Both sides of the political spectrum have there fair share of low-lifes, but the GOP seems to have so many more of them.... and in ELECTED positions to boot. The partisian hacks see this as an opprtunity to try and "take back some ground" as it were.

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for cheating on his wife.

Only a true liberal like yourself would put distributing child porn and cheating on your wife in the same category.

Please don't try to confuse people with facts.