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Corn

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.
 

IGBT

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.."it's easier to ask forgivness then permission". didn't he always end his show with that comment??
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.

Your a beter judge of character???
 

shortylickens

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I was going to make a comment about how this is news because we usually see right-wing religious zealots invloved in these scandals.
Then I saw he was a priest and it all made sense. This has nothing to do with "liberal" or "conservative". I suspect its a plot to call attention to the political BS and the kiddie stuff will eventually be swept under the rug.


(Does that qualify as stirring up a hornets nest? ;) )
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.

I stand by my assessment. I do not think Ward is a perv. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was, investigating the world of child porn. I think what you know about Ward you could put in a thimble. I have been listening to him for years. In shout, you are a shallow know nothing who is happy to condemn without any knowledge and I have watched him work for the disadvantaged and poor for years and years. I have seen an investigative reporter and person of great humanity, filled with compassion and real Christian spirit. It will take a lot more than some emails to convince me he is guilty of anything but what he has said. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when this comes to trial.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam

I stand by my assessment. I do not think Ward is a perv. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was, investigating the world of child porn. I think what you know about Ward you could put in a thimble. I have been listening to him for years. In shout, you are a shallow know nothing who is happy to condemn without any knowledge and I have watched him work for the disadvantaged and poor for years and years. I have seen an investigative reporter and person of great humanity, filled with compassion and real Christian spirit. It will take a lot more than some emails to convince me he is guilty of anything but what he has said. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when this comes to trial.

Aren't priests usually "filled with real Christian spirit"?

Interesting how there is evidence in this case, but people don't want to believe it. In the KBR thread, though, the accuser has no evidence, and people absolutely believe her. Good thing justice is blind, huh?
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I stand by my assessment. I do not think Ward is a perv. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was, investigating the world of child porn. I think what you know about Ward you could put in a thimble. I have been listening to him for years. In shout, you are a shallow know nothing who is happy to condemn without any knowledge and I have watched him work for the disadvantaged and poor for years and years. I have seen an investigative reporter and person of great humanity, filled with compassion and real Christian spirit. It will take a lot more than some emails to convince me he is guilty of anything but what he has said. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when this comes to trial.

I don't see any need to email pictures of child porn to a dominatrix in order to investigate the wold of child porn. I'd love to hear Ward's detailed explaination for this.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
You mean like Newt cheating on his wife while he was busy trying to impeach Clinton for cheating on his wife?

Both sides of the political spectrum have there fair share of low-lifes, but the GOP seems to have so many more of them.... and in ELECTED positions to boot. The partisian hacks see this as an opprtunity to try and "take back some ground" as it were.

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for cheating on his wife.

Only a true liberal like yourself would put distributing child porn and cheating on your wife in the same category.

Only a stupid little twit or a political hack wouldn't be able to see what i'm talking about. Too bad for you, but you obviously qualify on both of those points. :p
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.

I stand by my assessment. I do not think Ward is a perv. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was, investigating the world of child porn. I think what you know about Ward you could put in a thimble. I have been listening to him for years. In shout, you are a shallow know nothing who is happy to condemn without any knowledge and I have watched him work for the disadvantaged and poor for years and years. I have seen an investigative reporter and person of great humanity, filled with compassion and real Christian spirit. It will take a lot more than some emails to convince me he is guilty of anything but what he has said. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when this comes to trial.

Here's what I know about Ward: He got caught distributing child porn. Here is one thing I can reasonably guess about Ward: If in fact he was really doing research :roll: then he should have informed someone in law enforcement about his activities prior to engaging in them to protect himself. Therefore if his story is true he's an idiot. Personally, I don't think he's an idiot, I think he just got caught. We'll find out what a jury thinks.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.

Your a beter judge of character???

Maybe, maybe not. I've seen enough angels fall in my lifetime to know anyone is capable of anything.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Only a stupid little twit or a political hack wouldn't be able to see what i'm talking about. Too bad for you, but you obviously qualify on both of those points. :p

Most who have no real argument to make, end up lowering themselves to personal attacks. Congrats. Any mods around here?
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the chances this guy is a pedophile are slim to none. Everything about this guy that I can see radiates 'fine human being'. I can't think this can be anything other than a witch hunt by some very vicious and vindictive people. Ward is a powerful and cogent critic of the right who simply demolishes the idiots on the right who call in to his show. And he rips up the Democrats too, especially Nancy Pelosi.

Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on this (if the law is too broad and captures innocent activity, that's another issue we'll see about).

Steller judges of character you two are, not.

Your a beter judge of character???

Maybe, maybe not. I've seen enough angels fall in my lifetime to know anyone is capable of anything.

Exactly, how people present and conduct themselves in public has almost no bearing on who they are and what they do behind closed doors. There have been countless examples of this, especially in the last 20 years or so.

I don't have enough information to form on opinion on this guy either way, but I'm having a very hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt these days in spite of what they may espouse or represent in public life. I've just been burned too many times.

Just recently, Roger Clemens, on steroids? Say it ain't so.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: eskimospy

I don't think frivolous means what you think it means. And what's up with the Baghdad by the Bay thing? Not only is San Francisco an amazing city, but Muslim nations are usually very socially conservative, not liberal... so that doesn't make much sense. That, and I think the quote meant it in a pejorative sense, but Baghdad is now the seat of our 'allies' in Iraq?

That whole name calling thing just didn't seem very well thought out.

Caen gained fame with his column "It's News to Me," which was first published July 5, 1938. His columns were known for their dry wit and his intimate knowledge of the happenings in his city. Caen had a considerable influence on pop culture and its language; most notably, he coined the term "beatnik" in his April 2, 1958 column [1] and popularized the word "hippie" during San Francisco's 1967 Summer of Love. He also playfully popularized many other (if more obscure) concepts and terms, such as Frisbeetarianism. To reflect the multiculturalism and exotic character of San Francisco he coined the term Baghdad by the Bay, and often referred to San Francisco that way.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Only a stupid little twit or a political hack wouldn't be able to see what i'm talking about. Too bad for you, but you obviously qualify on both of those points. :p

Most who have no real argument to make, end up lowering themselves to personal attacks. Congrats. Any mods around here?

Are you crying for protection? ROFLMAO@U!!!! You poor tightie righties, it's all a liberal conspiracy, isn't it. :p

Why don't you try answering the question I asked of you, or is it too hard for your peanut brain to comprehend? Hell I'll even make it easy for you. Here it is:

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Now try keeping to the subject instead of drifiting off on your ongoing attempts at trying to put words in other people's mouth. Either that or STFU!!!!!!!
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Only a stupid little twit or a political hack wouldn't be able to see what i'm talking about. Too bad for you, but you obviously qualify on both of those points. :p

Most who have no real argument to make, end up lowering themselves to personal attacks. Congrats. Any mods around here?

Are you crying for protection? ROFLMAO@U!!!! You poor tightie righties, it's all a liberal conspiracy, isn't it. :p

Why don't you try answering the question I asked of you, or is it too hard for your peanut brain to comprehend? Hell I'll even make it easy for you. Here it is:

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Now try keeping to the subject instead of drifiting off on your ongoing attempts at trying to put words in other people's mouth. Either that or STFU!!!!!!!

Actually, you are the one who took the conversation in a whole different direction by trying to somehow equate Newt cheating on his wife to a pedophile.

But to answer your questions, I never wanted anything. I just find it sad that liberals like youself make excuses for this kind of disgusting behavior, or try to margenalize it by comparing it to something much different.
 

superstition

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Originally posted by: homercles337
This is just more evidence that all liberal, moon-bats are pedophiles. :|
History has shown that the more sexually repressive and patriarchal a society is ("conservative") the more frequent the sexual abuse of children is, particularly teenage girls by family members. That said, most such abuse is not pedophilia because pedophilia is specifically about pre-pubescent children.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Only a stupid little twit or a political hack wouldn't be able to see what i'm talking about. Too bad for you, but you obviously qualify on both of those points. :p

Most who have no real argument to make, end up lowering themselves to personal attacks. Congrats. Any mods around here?

Are you crying for protection? ROFLMAO@U!!!! You poor tightie righties, it's all a liberal conspiracy, isn't it. :p

Why don't you try answering the question I asked of you, or is it too hard for your peanut brain to comprehend? Hell I'll even make it easy for you. Here it is:

Again, this guy is NOT an elected official. He's lost his job AND is being prosecuted. What more do you want?

Now try keeping to the subject instead of drifiting off on your ongoing attempts at trying to put words in other people's mouth. Either that or STFU!!!!!!!

Actually, you are the one who took the conversation in a whole different direction by trying to somehow equate Newt cheating on his wife to a pedophile.

But to answer your questions, I never wanted anything. I just find it sad that liberals like youself make excuses for this kind of disgusting behavior, or try to margenalize it by comparing it to something much different.

LOL, so you admit you could care less about this guy and what he allegedly did except that it offers a chance for you to attempt to bash anybody you declare to be an "evul libruhl".

Have so more kool-aid, dumb ass.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LOL, so you admit you could care less about this guy and what he allegedly did except that it offers a chance for you to attempt to bash anybody you declare to be an "evul libruhl".

Have so more kool-aid, dumb ass.

Of course I care what this guy did. He's a sick freak and should be punished accordingly. Of course, all people like yourself want to do is downplay his actions by comparing them to something completely different than the situation this guy is in. Its a typical trait of liberals like yourself. Absolutely smear a republican when he does something you find appauling, then brush it off when the same thing (actually worse in this case) is done by someone of your own political leanings. Its party hackism at its finest.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LOL, so you admit you could care less about this guy and what he allegedly did except that it offers a chance for you to attempt to bash anybody you declare to be an "evul libruhl".

Have so more kool-aid, dumb ass.

Of course I care what this guy did. He's a sick freak and should be punished accordingly. Of course, all people like yourself want to do is downplay his actions by comparing them to something completely different than the situation this guy is in. Its a typical trait of liberals like yourself. Absolutely smear a republican when he does something you find appauling, then brush it off when the same thing (actually worse in this case) is done by someone of your own political leanings. Its party hackism at its finest.
Blah blah blah, he does what you do, the difference is that he's not defending either scum while you are defending Newt. Both are scum, one is a manipulative heartless type of scum while the other is a sick twisted in need of phsyciatric help type of scum. Neither should measure up to your morals even as subjective as them may be.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Blah blah blah, he does what you do, the difference is that he's not defending either scum while you are defending Newt. Both are scum, one is a manipulative heartless type of scum while the other is a sick twisted in need of phsyciatric help type of scum. Neither should measure up to your morals even as subjective as them may be.

I never defended Newt. I pointed out the fact that they are COMPLETELY different situations that have nothing to do with each other. Of course what Newt did was wrong. But like I said, it has nothing to do with child porn or even NEAR the realm that gets into.

And maybe if you werent so partisan you'd actually do something about the personal attacks he has made in this thread rather than sit there and defend him.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Blah blah blah, he does what you do, the difference is that he's not defending either scum while you are defending Newt. Both are scum, one is a manipulative heartless type of scum while the other is a sick twisted in need of phsyciatric help type of scum. Neither should measure up to your morals even as subjective as them may be.

I never defended Newt. I pointed out the fact that they are COMPLETELY different situations that have nothing to do with each other. Of course what Newt did was wrong. But like I said, it has nothing to do with child porn or even NEAR the realm that gets into.

And maybe if you werent so partisan you'd actually do something about the personal attacks he has made in this thread.
Complaining about the moderation is not allowed in this forum. Calling out a Moderator is against the rules and can get you a vacation. I already posted in this thread so I'm not allowed to moderate in it (unless it's an emergency). Any problems you have with the moderation should be addressed to Derek Wilson. Anymore discussion of the moderation by you or any other member in this thread and forum will be brought to the attention of a Moderator who hasn't participated in this thread so he can act without violating any of the Moderator Guidelines.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Blah blah blah, he does what you do, the difference is that he's not defending either scum while you are defending Newt. Both are scum, one is a manipulative heartless type of scum while the other is a sick twisted in need of phsyciatric help type of scum. Neither should measure up to your morals even as subjective as them may be.

I never defended Newt. I pointed out the fact that they are COMPLETELY different situations that have nothing to do with each other. Of course what Newt did was wrong. But like I said, it has nothing to do with child porn or even NEAR the realm that gets into.

And maybe if you werent so partisan you'd actually do something about the personal attacks he has made in this thread.
Complaining about the moderation is not allowed in this forum. Calling out a Moderator is against the rules and can get you a vacation. I already posted in this thread so I'm not allowed to moderate in it (unless it's an emergency). Any problems you have with the moderation should be addressed to Derek Wilson. Anymore discussion of the moderation by you or any other member in this thread and forum will be brought to the attention of a Moderator who hasn't participated in this thread so he can act without violating any of the Moderator Guidelines.


I never defended Newt. I pointed out the fact that they are COMPLETELY different situations that have nothing to do with each other. Of course what Newt did was wrong. But like I said, it has nothing to do with child porn or even NEAR the realm that gets into.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Craig234
I've listened to Bernie Ward for many years. He is a passionate liberal.

I think there's virtually no chance he did anything wrong morally on ...

Weeeeeeeell . . . .

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Craig comes up with a new excuse in 4...3...2...

Still waiting for Craig to give his input on this thread since claiming Ward did nothing wrong.