Bush is a zealot

[Bumrush99]

I come for a very religous background, went to religous school for 15 years and still enjoy many of the traditions that have been a central part of my life for all of my life. With that being said, I posted the orignal post not to bash religion or to bash Christianity. I admire Christians to the utmost degree and respect the good they do throughout the world. As a Jew, I know how religion is deeply ingrained, my father attends services 4-5 times a week. There is no hidden dislike of Christians on my part, in fact I am very friendly with many born agains.

My problem with Bush has nothing to do with Christianity. I don't like it when Sharon brings up religion, I don't like it when Islamic Jihad's leadership brings up religion. When you are on a mission from god, logical decisions get discarded. My problem with what Bush said was not related to his strong faith, rather was related to his justification of going to war on the basis that he was doing Gods work. IMHO, it sounds a lot like what the terrorist are saying every time they chant out Allah Akaber.

 

[Kappo]

Knowing not to kill someone requires God?

Advocating != require.

That's the end of today's EngRish lesson.

 

[Infohawk]

Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim. In 2000 he tried to con people into thinking he was a compassionate conservative-- nonsense. Now he's trying to come off as your friendly, non-threatening radical zealot. Nice try. Fool me once...

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Its just the atheists feeling left out.

Too bad for them.

Bush is a good Christian.

But a sh!tty President.

And the funny thing is you arent even worthy to wipe the sh!t from his rear end.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Its just the atheists feeling left out.

Too bad for them.

Bush is a good Christian.

But a sh!tty President.

And the funny thing is you arent even worthy to wipe the sh!t from his rear end.

In what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Sweet obfuscation ckg.

Now, in what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Sweet obfuscation ckg.

Now, in what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

I see you ignored the question. Please answer instead of diverting to something else. You said it - now back it up....or don't you have the balls to do so. Was that your way of trying to say Bush = Osama?

CsG

 

[arsbanned]

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

So what if he is? Under the U.S. Constitution (you know, that thing you Republicans like to walk all over) he can do so without fear of being thrown in prison and tortured.
If you were the one getting firebombed or dragged out of your home at gunpoint, you might tend to agree Bush is a terrorist.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Sweet obfuscation ckg.

Now, in what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

I see you ignored the question. Please answer instead of diverting to something else. You said it - now back it up....or don't you have the balls to do so. Was that your way of trying to say Bush = Osama?

CsG

You're crap-flooding now cad. I asked a question of Felixthekat first. If Felix cares to answer (though I suspect this is another troll-and-run), I'll respond. Until then... I will ignore your attempts at crap-flooding.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Its just the atheists feeling left out.

Too bad for them.

Bush is a good Christian. Im voting for him.

WTF is a good Christian? Not sure I've met one of those.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Sweet obfuscation ckg.

Now, in what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

Yes, I'd like to hear the answer to this.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Sweet obfuscation ckg.

Now, in what possible way is Bush a good Christian?

I see you ignored the question. Please answer instead of diverting to something else. You said it - now back it up....or don't you have the balls to do so. Was that your way of trying to say Bush = Osama?

CsG

You're crap-flooding now cad. I asked a question of Felixthekat first. If Felix cares to answer (though I suspect this is another troll-and-run), I'll respond. Until then... I will ignore your attempts at crap-flooding.

I don't give a rat's ass what you asked Felix - that isn't my concern. I asked you a question based on something you posted. Are you going to answer it or not?

CsG

 

[zzzz]

see sig.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Its just the atheists feeling left out.

Too bad for them.

Bush is a good Christian. Im voting for him.

WTF is a good Christian? Not sure I've met one of those.

That's because they usually don't call themselves Christians!

 

[sandorski]

Jesus taught Universal Truth(s), anyone who accepts these Truths will receive the benefit of doing so. Jesus was not a Christian and neither does anyone else have to be, they just have to acept Universal Truth.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Is this your attempt to drown out a legit thread in a crap-flood of biblical proportions? Start a thread on the subject if it interests you and I'll respond. Different topics deserve different threads Ckg.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim.

Is this your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

Is this your attempt to drown out a legit thread in a crap-flood of biblical proportions? Start a thread on the subject if it interests you and I'll respond. Different topics deserve different threads Ckg.

So you are saying your statement that I quoted is a "crap-flood"? If it wasn't the topic - why did you post it? Is it just your way of trying to say Bush=Osama?

CsG

 

[Infohawk]

Ladies and gentleman, you are witnessing a hi-jacking by ckg. He doesn't want you to discuss Bush or his unchristianlike behavior. So he's trying to get me into a pissing match.

Here is where we left off before this terrorist tried to stop you from discussing the truth:

"Jesus taught Universal Truth(s), anyone who accepts these Truths will receive the benefit of doing so. Jesus was not a Christian and neither does anyone else have to be, they just have to acept Universal Truth."

 

[alchemize]

I would say 99% of the poeple in this forum have more respect for CSG than you, infotroll. Even folks on "your side" call you a troll. Sickening, really. But I guess scumbags like you are one of the by-products of free speech.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Ladies and gentleman, you are witnessing a hi-jacking by ckg. He doesn't want you to discuss Bush or his unchristianlike behavior. So he's trying to get me into a pissing match.

Here is where we left off before this terrorist tried to stop you from discussing the truth:

"Jesus taught Universal Truth(s), anyone who accepts these Truths will receive the benefit of doing so. Jesus was not a Christian and neither does anyone else have to be, they just have to acept Universal Truth."

Lots of squawking and lots of wing flapping but ofcourse won't answer the question posed about the statement.

Now again, since it was your statement and this is a thread about Bush being a "zealot" - was your statement: "Bush is the American equivalent of a fanatical terrorist Muslim." an attempt to claim Bush=Osama?

Your statement, the thread is about Bush being a "zealot" and you equated him with a fanatical terrorist Muslim. Can everyone safely assume that your refusal to answer the question means you did infact mean to say that Bush=Osama or was there something else you were trying to say by it?

CsG

Oh and that was a nice touch trying to call me a terrorist. :trollcookie;

 

[Yolner]

Good christian = bad president

 

[Goosemaster]

I must say that some of the responses I am seeing are quite disturbing.

From what I have seen, Bush has been quick to point out that he is doing the will of God, but I see that only as a danger and not as a benefit. It is important to keep in mind that war to bring freedom to the world, as Bush has said, can be construed as "war for the sake of God is justifiable because it makes the world better." In my opinion, any man who not only gloats in "doing the will of god" and uses that to defend any form of violence, much less an all out war, is truly a disappointment in terms of Christian ideals. As for Kerry, he has professed his Christianity when pressured, but he is not gloating in it. From what I have seen, he has chosen to rely on his actions rather than on his words. I understand that Christians are supposed to be proud, but to chastise someone like I have seen people chastise Kerry on the issue is just vile.

I would also like to say that those who say simply that they are not voting for Kerry based solely on religious reason are some of the most worthless people I have yet to encounter. I would have churches and multitudes of congregations backing me up on this, all of whom realize that spoken word does not define a man. To simply rely on the word of a man and to discount his actions is to completely ruin any form of credibility for oneself. It is, at least for Christians, common knowledge that some of the vilest people in history have been some of Gods greatest advocates, or at least that is what they told us before they started killing people. In this instance, Bush has initiated a deadly war of revenge the likes of which any religion should look down upon.

Avenging God or avenging the name of the dead in the name of god is like turning in your time card. It is a sure way to prove, at least to those with some degree of foresight that you should no longer hold power over anything.

I would conclude by saying that any man, women, or child that professes to be Christian and good should have the obligation to do absolutely everything in their power and more so to prevent war, but no one will listen. Since the beginning of time, the excuse of divinity has played out through numerous wars that have been far greater and far crueler than what we are seeing in Iraq.

In the end, I would think that it would be every Christian?s prerogative to reexamine what the will of God is, and whether it would ever involve violence.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Yolner
Good christian = bad president

I would normally argue otherwise due to the multitude of exceptions, but given present company, I wouldn't hesitate to agree with you on most of the points brought up in such a disscussion.