Bush has never made any tough decisions

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the tough decision in this forum is going to be how long people will excuse Obama's failures by blaming them on Bush.

that's not going to be tough at all for those on the far left

 

[BigDH01]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Smart people learn from past mistakes, only clueless incompetent disasters do not.

Then it's a wonder why Obama preaches the same exact message Karl Marx once did.

Have you ever read Marx? I have, and what Obama preaches isn't even close. It's a 30 page pamphlet, go read it.

You're barking up the wrong tree. I've even posted tenets from the Communist Manifesto to show people how ridiculous it is to call Obama a Socialist, let alone a Communist. People find it easier to use "mean-sounding" terms than to actually know what they are talking about.

In fact, Palin fits the bill to a somewhat closer degree.

?we?re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it?s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.?

Although not a Socialist, I believe this comment leans far more into that arena than Obama's "spread the wealth" comment.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Smart people learn from past mistakes, only clueless incompetent disasters do not.

Then it's a wonder why Obama preaches the same exact message Karl Marx once did.

Yup

 

[BigDH01]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Smart people learn from past mistakes, only clueless incompetent disasters do not.

Then it's a wonder why Obama preaches the same exact message Karl Marx once did.

Yup

I have a couple of questions for you.

What did Karl Marx preach and what is your source for this information?

How is Obama's message the "exact" message that Marx used to preach?

I assume your answer will be informed by your extensive readings of Marx's and Obama's works as any bold statement such as your's would have to be. And, of course, any discussion will include Marx's feelings on class, Communism, Capitalist means of production, ownership, Collectivism, value, and how Communism arises in society. Be sure to address the transition from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism. Lastly, you'll need to show that Obama's thoughts about the aforementioned subjects are indistinguishable from Marx's.

And please, don't be afraid to give examples.

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Smart people learn from past mistakes, only clueless incompetent disasters do not.

Then it's a wonder why Obama preaches the same exact message Karl Marx once did.

Yup

I have a couple of questions for you.

What did Karl Marx preach and what is your source for this information?

How is Obama's message the "exact" message that Marx used to preach?

I assume your answer will be informed by your extensive readings of Marx's and Obama's works as any bold statement such as your's would have to be. And, of course, any discussion will include Marx's feelings on class, Communism, Capitalist means of production, ownership, Collectivism, value, and how Communism arises in society. Be sure to address the transition from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism. Lastly, you'll need to show that Obama's thoughts about the aforementioned subjects are indistinguishable from Marx's.

And please, don't be afraid to give examples.

Republican talking points don't tend to include logical analysis or well, reality.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd like to hear what these "tough decisions" were that Bush was forced to contend with, because if you ask me, "tough decisions" sound like Bushspeak for making the WRONG decision, having everyone get pissed off at you for it, and then claiming you don't care what the public reaction is to your bad decisions, and continuing to engage in whatever activity the bad decision ultimately led to.

Try opening your eyes champ. This Presidency was 1 tough decision/crisis that festered for 20+ years after another, while the previous President had sex for 7 years.

Just woke up, thanks for the laugh winnar. Since your a conservative ideologue, you real you just slammed 2 other conservative presidents with that statement, right?

In this case, its the truth.

Who created the dotcom bubble which relapsed into the housing bubble?
Who put Saddam in power? Who left him there?
Who set the ball rolling on the deregulation of Wall Street?
Who's run GM into the ground for 20 years?
Who's rapidly increased the price of medical care?


Not W.

 

[Kanalua]

Marry and Reproduce

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: winnar111


Who took a prosperous economy and let is slide into the dirt?
Who spent hundreds of billions on a war that had nothing to do with 9/11?
Who fought regulation of the mortgage industry?
Who's gave tax breaks to oil companies that were making record profits?
Who allowed the US govt. to torture?

It was W.

Fixed =)

Dont try and defend Bush. There is none, and it makes people think you are even dumber than they already think you are.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd like to hear what these "tough decisions" were that Bush was forced to contend with, because if you ask me, "tough decisions" sound like Bushspeak for making the WRONG decision, having everyone get pissed off at you for it, and then claiming you don't care what the public reaction is to your bad decisions, and continuing to engage in whatever activity the bad decision ultimately led to.

Try opening your eyes champ. This Presidency was 1 tough decision/crisis that festered for 20+ years after another, while the previous President had sex for 7 years.

Just woke up, thanks for the laugh winnar. Since your a conservative ideologue, you real you just slammed 2 other conservative presidents with that statement, right?

In this case, its the truth.

Who created the dotcom bubble which relapsed into the housing bubble?
Who put Saddam in power? Who left him there?
Who set the ball rolling on the deregulation of Wall Street?
Who's run GM into the ground for 20 years?
Who's rapidly increased the price of medical care?


Not W.

I'm English... Can i still play?

1. Reagan, it's so obvious that if you can't see it your fucking retarded.
2. Saddam put Saddam in power actually, read up on history billy bob, most presidents since didn't do much except for the politicians who were on GW's team who had affairs with him.
3. Reagan, se no1
4. GM did that all by themselves since they thought they could control the market rather than follow it.
5. The pharmaceutical companies of course, who else? Of course it was Reagan who made it possible, but you know that.

Reaganomics or whatever it's called was always about riding the bull, it's fun until you fall off, then it's less fun.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd like to hear what these "tough decisions" were that Bush was forced to contend with, because if you ask me, "tough decisions" sound like Bushspeak for making the WRONG decision, having everyone get pissed off at you for it, and then claiming you don't care what the public reaction is to your bad decisions, and continuing to engage in whatever activity the bad decision ultimately led to.

Try opening your eyes champ. This Presidency was 1 tough decision/crisis that festered for 20+ years after another, while the previous President had sex for 7 years.

Just woke up, thanks for the laugh winnar. Since your a conservative ideologue, you real you just slammed 2 other conservative presidents with that statement, right?

In this case, its the truth.

Who created the dotcom bubble which relapsed into the housing bubble?
Who put Saddam in power? Who left him there?
Who set the ball rolling on the deregulation of Wall Street?
Who's run GM into the ground for 20 years?
Who's rapidly increased the price of medical care?


Not W.

I'm English... Can i still play?

1. Reagan, it's so obvious that if you can't see it your fucking retarded.
2. Saddam put Saddam in power actually, read up on history billy bob, most presidents since didn't do much except for the politicians who were on GW's team who had affairs with him.
3. Reagan, se no1
4. GM did that all by themselves since they thought they could control the market rather than follow it.
5. The pharmaceutical companies of course, who else? Of course it was Reagan who made it possible, but you know that.

Reaganomics or whatever it's called was always about riding the bull, it's fun until you fall off, then it's less fun.

Posting correct logic to Winnar111 is a garanteed way to make him stop responding. He will just fade away now with no further input

Nicely done! =)

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd like to hear what these "tough decisions" were that Bush was forced to contend with, because if you ask me, "tough decisions" sound like Bushspeak for making the WRONG decision, having everyone get pissed off at you for it, and then claiming you don't care what the public reaction is to your bad decisions, and continuing to engage in whatever activity the bad decision ultimately led to.

Try opening your eyes champ. This Presidency was 1 tough decision/crisis that festered for 20+ years after another, while the previous President had sex for 7 years.

Just woke up, thanks for the laugh winnar. Since your a conservative ideologue, you real you just slammed 2 other conservative presidents with that statement, right?

In this case, its the truth.

Who created the dotcom bubble which relapsed into the housing bubble?
Who put Saddam in power? Who left him there?
Who set the ball rolling on the deregulation of Wall Street?
Who's run GM into the ground for 20 years?
Who's rapidly increased the price of medical care?


Not W.

The truth and you are mutually exclusive.

 

[Red Dawn]

I have no doubt he had some tough decisions to make just as I have no doubt that many of those decisions he made were wrong, especially the ones regarding Iraq.