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Syrch

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she is very good at photography but you rarely want to take your hobby/passion and turn it into a career. You can very quickly begin to hate it.
 

HammerCurl

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Sounds like me
Freshman+Soph:
Electrical Engineering
Junior-Super senior:
Accounting

No relevant experience

Mustve had 50 interviews during my "5th" Fall semester til I got an offer. Boy was that a relief. Go to a resume workshop at your school and use your school online recruiting system (at University of Delaware they have erecruiting) and you pretty much load your resume onto every damn place that looks relevent. Chances are they'll take you without experience as long as the job spots arent full, and thats when you need to wow them. I sucked at interviewing, got maybe 5 callbacks out of the first 30 interviews. And the last week I got 3/5 callbacks, although the one I tried to reschedule and they gave it to the other person who interviewed before me :confused: DAMN YOU AIG! But anyway, just work on your people skills, the interview is the most important part of anything. I had about a 3.1 GPA as well.
 

Mxylplyx

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Oh yeah, I forgot you are the resident photographer around here. You should seriously pursue a career in that. One of the few areas where people can get paid to do what they truly love.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Syrch
she is very good at photography but you rarely want to take your hobby/passion and turn it into a career. You can very quickly begin to hate it.

He.
FuzzyBabyBunny is a guy.
I think he needs to add "I am a guy" to his sig like several other people have done, lol.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Syrch
she is very good at photography but you rarely want to take your hobby/passion and turn it into a career. You can very quickly begin to hate it.

He.
FuzzyBabyBunny is a guy.
I think he needs to add "I am a guy" to his sig like several other people have done, lol.

opps....well none the less :p
 

Gooberlx2

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To be honest, with some people, even after you've done the college thing straight through, followed by several years of experience in your field, you can find a point where you're totally disatisfied and deciding a change needs to happen. That's where I am now, I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to pull off completely changing careers with no experience in the next thing. The thing is that since I've got solid working experience and a degree, I think I'll be okay.

If I were in your shoes I'd try a couple things:
1) get a paid internship
2) get an unpaid internship and work another part-time job
3) consider ditching all that and pursuing your photography as a means of making money, considering how talented you are anyway.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
In this world if you want to make any money you got to either come up with a great idea (facebook, ebay, craigslist) or get into a field most people don't get into due to it's "hardness". Being a medical doctor would of been the best option. Engineering is good to. Those things most people can't do so your bound to make great money. Photography is not going to take you anywhere unless you want to stake out in front of the Spears mansion looking to take of shots of her panty-less to go into the next issue of Stars.

There is more, much more, to life than "going somewhere". I know a lot of people who are perfectly happy doing temp jobs or basic admin jobs because it means they have no real stress, enough money to live simply, and plenty of time to pursue their own interests.

The people who are complaining are complaining because they aren't willing to work for what they want (in their case it would seem to be money that they want), or they aren't willing to make the sacrifices necessary to get it. There's a saying that I really, really like, "You can have anything you want in life as long as you're willing to give up everything else to get it."

The impression that I get from Fuzzy though is that his desire is not for money. I think that he could support himself quite decently (that is, wouldn't be starving or poor or without a roof over his head, but wouldn't be wealthy) by opening a gallery in an area that had at least a modest tourist trade.

To Fuzzy: No-one has experience coming out of college. Well, I exaggerate, few have experience. If you're OK with contract work, got and put your resume in with a few staffing companies. They can get you some temp jobs and some experience, and they will usually do a decent amount of "marketing" for you. Sure, you might spend a couple years doing that, but it will get you experience and exposure. If you find that the type of work even happens to agree with you, you might even look at working for a consulting firm. I got my start contracting and was able to move from that to a full-time position with my current company. It's a good way to get into the door.

ZV
 

puffff

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Take this time to socialize more with your classmates. College friends will be a good resource for job leads in the future.

Take advantage of the help given at the career center. They can be rather helpful with resume writing and general interview tips. Be proactive (but not annoying) in contacting the career center counselors.

Consider temp jobs, especially at a company you feel you have a chance to move up in. You just need to get your foot in the door, if you perform well, they may offer a permanent position.

 

CPA

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All I can add is that the Redhawks are going to get crushed by Syracuse this fall.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
In today's America you don't have to go to college to be successful. College grads are seen as over-privileged yuppies. I commonly call Liberal Art degrees Cake Majors. It still surprises me on how people with a B.S. in Philosophy and Art bitch about how they can?t make any money.

And:

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Statistically persons who don't possess a degree financially do worse then those who do. Income actually increases with degree. It's when we hear about those few who do well without even a H.S. that we think it's a big deal and advertise this. Giving those the perception that you don't need a degree. I would say a few would qualify for this.

I'm not clear which side you're supporting, can you clarify things a little?

ZV
 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Syrch
she is very good at photography but you rarely want to take your hobby/passion and turn it into a career. You can very quickly begin to hate it.

He.
FuzzyBabyBunny is a guy.
I think he needs to add "I am a guy" to his sig like several other people have done, lol.

opps....well none the less :p

You insensitive jerk! :brokenheart:
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Would you be able to find a more entry-level position with a company you'd like to work for, and after you've proven yourself, move up to what you want to do?

I could certainly try. I would really really like to work for a company that has something to do with cameras or photography, like Canon, Nikon, Pentax... or camera accessory companies like Slik, Bogen-Manfrotto, etc. because I would have a sincere passion for the products. Not to mention I'd like to eventually move into a position where I can have a say in designing products.

I don't know if I'd like to work for a company like P&G... overseeing operations for making laundry detergent... yay.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: Zolty
This may seem obvious, but why don't you go into photography. I have always enjoyed your photos.

Originally posted by: randay
photography!

Don't want my relaxing hobby to become a job, and have to depend on it for sustenance. Plus the money's not as good as in business, especially if I can move up in business.
 

fleshconsumed

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Too late to do anything now. The only advice I have is start job hunting NOW, polish your resume, start sending it out and go to college job fairs. Most of the time unless you have something really distinguishing on your resume you will have hard time searching for job. If you want to look for the job on your own you'll be lucky if you find one in 3-6 months. That's why college job fairs are good because companies look for entry people and you have better chance finding employment than sending out resumes. If you get good salary, great, but don't expect it. The main thing is start looking for job NOW.
 

nonameo

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you're going to live in a trailer park for the rest of your life.

with 5 kids and a beer gut husband.
 

JulesMaximus

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You'll probably have to start out at a lower level position until you get enough experience but if you put half of the effort into your career that you put into photography you should do very well.

Good luck! :beer:
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: Savij
You're not special. You're not the only one w/o experience. There are a ton of people like you. Anyone who is looking to hire entry level will understand that. You're not the greatest candidate for those jobs, but you're far from the worst. Quit your bitching and get back to applying.

P.S. College career fairs and such are an awesome resource for finding companies looking to hire college grads (duh).

At my school anyway, the norm for business majors is to already have had at least one internship and/or significant experience abroad before their senior year. Just sitting in one of my classes it seems like all the seniors have worked for company this and company that...

When they reply to questions they're always like "when I worked for company X..."
 

EagleKeeper

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Have you talked to the instructors in your field.

They will usually have some contacts out in the real world.

Check with some of the large stores that deal with importing or high volume US products. They may be able to find a slot for you in their operations area.
You just need to go out and sell yourself
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Thanks for the replies guys.

My obvious goals are happiness and financial stability, including the ability to retire somewhat early and to have adequate resources to cover mounting costs as I get older.

But I also want to effect the world at large in some way in my work. To work on products that I have an emotional stake in. To take product ideas and bring them to a global market is definitely one way. To be a very important cog in an overall process is also a desire. To strengthen and keep alive the photography market is definitely there too (hence my desire to work for a photography-related manufacturer).

The career fair is so close! (19th of this month). I'm also pretty shy compared to all my extroverted business major peers, and I convey messages better through type than speech. Bah, I'm just going to write up a resume tonight and contact the career center to see if they can help me out.

And yeah, I fully understand that I'll probably have to start out at some podunk company to gain experience before being able to really move up.
 

steppinthrax

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
In today's America you don't have to go to college to be successful. College grads are seen as over-privileged yuppies. I commonly call Liberal Art degrees Cake Majors. It still surprises me on how people with a B.S. in Philosophy and Art bitch about how they can?t make any money.

And:

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Statistically persons who don't possess a degree financially do worse then those who do. Income actually increases with degree. It's when we hear about those few who do well without even a H.S. that we think it's a big deal and advertise this. Giving those the perception that you don't need a degree. I would say a few would qualify for this.

I'm not clear which side you're supporting, can you clarify things a little?

ZV

Those are responses to two different people. If you take them out of context from each other they of course makes no sense.
 

Throckmorton

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You didn't go back to CORNELL, one of the best schools in the country, because you were mad at them for giving you a year off? Are you kidding? They did not kick you out.

Get an internship after college. That's what I did
 

randay

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: Zolty
This may seem obvious, but why don't you go into photography. I have always enjoyed your photos.

Originally posted by: randay
photography!

Don't want my relaxing hobby to become a job, and have to depend on it for sustenance. Plus the money's not as good as in business, especially if I can move up in business.

Well I guess it depends really how you feel about photography, Im sure that if you can do something you love as your job, then you wont even care how much you are making.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
In today's America you don't have to go to college to be successful. College grads are seen as over-privileged yuppies. I commonly call Liberal Art degrees Cake Majors. It still surprises me on how people with a B.S. in Philosophy and Art bitch about how they can?t make any money.

And:

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Statistically persons who don't possess a degree financially do worse then those who do. Income actually increases with degree. It's when we hear about those few who do well without even a H.S. that we think it's a big deal and advertise this. Giving those the perception that you don't need a degree. I would say a few would qualify for this.

I'm not clear which side you're supporting, can you clarify things a little?

ZV

Those are responses to two different people. If you take them out of context from each other they of course makes no sense.

You were agreeing with both people.

ZV
 

Kirby

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You could always do wedding photography and make a little dough while you try decide what you want to do.