Question Building a mid tier machine to play Cyber punk 2077

[guidedbyechoes]

I used this forum to build a computer several years ago and after a few upgrades it has gotten to the point where it desperately needs to be replaced. It lasted 7 years.

So the kind of setup I'm looking to put together this time is:

Ryzen 5 2600
Radeon RX 5700 XT ASRock Challenger D OC 8GB
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB
GIGABYTE GA-A320M mATX AM4
Corsair VS Series 650W 80+ White
SanDisk SSD PLUS 480GB
Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal Hard Drive HDD
Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 mATX

Last time some people were incredibly helpful finding bundles and pointing out models or components that could easily be improved upon. From what I've been reading these are all pretty decent components. I just wanted to get a second opinion from the pros.

I will be using this computer for gaming and music recording. My budget is around a grand. But that also includes a new monitor as I have been using a 32 in vizio TV for about 11 years and it's time to swap it out as well. I'll be sourcing the parts in the US. 1080 resolution. No over clocking needed. I'm more concerned about function than looks. So is this a fairly decent setup? What would you suggest changing?

 

[piokos]

If the main focus is to run Cyberpunk, wait for the actual game. Why buy now?

If you don't want / can't afford Zen2, you'd be better off with an Intel CPU than that 2600.
And that motherboard is really basic...

 

[guidedbyechoes]

If the main focus is to run Cyberpunk, wait for the actual game. Why buy now?

If you don't want / can't afford Zen2, you'd be better off with an Intel CPU than that 2600.
And that motherboard is really basic...

I've been thinking about building a new rig since my old one was 7 years old. I've been having issues with it for most of this year. This week it started randomly shutting down with normal browsing and yesterday it stopped outputting video. So right now my only pc is a 10 year old HP laptop. The PS3 was my last console and just about everything has been canceled due to Covid this year. So it's the perfect time.

 

[Muadib]

This is around $1150, and uses a 3600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fprrb8

 

[guidedbyechoes]

This is around $1150, and uses a 3600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fprrb8

Looks good. I live close enough to microcenter so I'm going to try to source my parts from there.

 

[Muadib]

Looks good. I live close enough to microcenter so I'm going to try to source my parts from there.

They may have a 4th of July sale going on. If you can you should hold off buying a video card now. It's just too close to the newest models.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

Are we talking huge price drops on what I'm looking for or just higher spec'd cards for a similar price?

 

[Muadib]

Are we talking huge price drops on what I'm looking for or just higher spec'd cards for a similar price?

Can’t really answer that, because the cost is still not known.

 

[Stuka87]

My only input is that if you can afford a three fan RX 5700 XT (And it will fit in your case), do it. A card like the Sapphire Nitro+ with its three fans will run quieter than any of the two fan options out there. But it does cost more.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

Can’t really answer that, because the cost is still not known.

Historically though? I never paid attention. I just build to play a specific game and it lasts me about 4 years until I need to think about replacing the graphics card then I buy one that will play the next graphically intensive game I'm anticipating. Last time it was Crysis 3.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

My only input is that if you can afford a three fan RX 5700 XT (And it will fit in your case), do it. A card like the Sapphire Nitro+ with its three fans will run quieter than any of the two fan options out there. But it does cost more.

Fair point. Fan noise never bothers me until the card is getting to the end of it's life. Then it really picks up the noise.

 

[Muadib]

Historically though? I never paid attention. I just build to play a specific game and it lasts me about 4 years until I need to think about replacing the graphics card then I buy one that will play the next graphically intensive game I'm anticipating. Last time it was Crysis 3.

It's gone both ways historically, but rumors have both AMD & Nvidia having great offerings this time around.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

It's gone both ways historically, but rumors have both AMD & Nvidia having great offerings this time around.

Any rough idea when the info will be released?

 

[Muadib]

Any rough idea when the info will be released?

Sadly no. Both companies have given no dates, but everyone says before the end of the year.

 

[sze5003]

This is around $1150, and uses a 3600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fprrb8

I'm going to second this one. Few days ago put together a similar Ryzen build for my brother's friend.

A lot of stuff was out of stock and he was also able to get stuff from microcenter. The gpu wasn't available either so I think he went with an RX 580 instead.

I have not upgraded my rig in a long time it seems. Everytime I make a post people tell me I'm good lol.

I know I want the next Ti GPU but no idea what bottleneck I may have with my current processor so I may as well wait until after I purchase the card to find out if I need to change a little or a lot.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

I'm going to second this one. Few days ago put together a similar Ryzen build for my brother's friend.

A lot of stuff was out of stock and he was also able to get stuff from microcenter. The gpu wasn't available either so I think he went with an RX 580 instead.

I have not upgraded my rig in a long time it seems. Everytime I make a post people tell me I'm good lol.

I know I want the next Ti GPU but no idea what bottleneck I may have with my current processor so I may as well wait until after I purchase the card to find out if I need to change a little or a lot.

I've been urged to look into the x570 since the 550 is a little over priced for what you get it seems.

 

[sze5003]

I've been urged to look into the x570 since the 550 is a little over priced for what you get it seems.

If it was only for cyberpunk I would say wait until November to see benchmarks and how it runs on the current gen hardware. But since you need to put something together now or soon, the x570 isn't bad at all. For 1080p it's fine and I don't think you are spoiled to want to run the game maxed out completely.

If you do want to max it out when it's released in November (if not another delay), I'd say find a used GPU to hold it together until November and then you will be able to spend money more efficiently for a better AMD/Nvidia GPU once the new series are released near end of the summer or fall, whichever is first.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

If it was only for cyberpunk I would say wait until November to see benchmarks and how it runs on the current gen hardware. But since you need to put something together now or soon, the x570 isn't bad at all. For 1080p it's fine and I don't think you are spoiled to want to run the game maxed out completely.

If you do want to max it out when it's released in November (if not another delay), I'd say find a used GPU to hold it together until November and then you will be able to spend money more efficiently for a better AMD/Nvidia GPU once the new series are released near end of the summer or fall, whichever is first.

This does sound like the best course of action. Gaming isn't my only hobby otherwise I'd already have a 4k build. 1080p is perfectly fine. I'm fine with good graphics I just don't want to need to replace my GPU every two-three years like some of the more devout PC gamers seem to do. I've also thought of going the console route this time. But after spending 400 on a decent desktop and 700 on a console I'm in the same territory but without all the flexibility.

As of right now I play smite and sometimes Apex Legends, and the Outer Worlds. Gaming has slowed down a lot since I was using a 7 year old card lol.

 

[funboy6942]

CL18 3600 Ram $67

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD $150

Nanoxia Micro ATX Case for Gaming/Desktop/Cube/Tower - Rexgear 2 Limited Edition, Championship White $70 I absolutely LOVE this case, see below picture.

ASRock B550M Steel Legend Supports 3rd Gen AMD AM4 Ryzen/Future AMD Ryzen Processors Motherboard $190

Amd 3600X new for $199 shipped on ebay. Id link, but Ill prolly get in trouble for it :O

XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card RX-57XT83LD8 $380 (cheaper if you go with a NON XT)

TCL 40S325 40 Inch 1080p Smart LED Roku TV (2019) $193 (My son uses a 42" TCL 4K, and looks stunning, as good as my 32" Curved Sceptre, which is over double the price of this tv for some darn reason )

Apevia ATX-PR800W Prestige 800W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply $65

Logitech G633 Artemis Spectrum RGB 7.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset, Black (Renewed) $54, and I would get these over the 635, for you lose DDL, and yet they have a bigger speaker in the 635, I have had both, still have my 633, and they sounded the exact same to me. Now you can get them cheaper you know where, for I paid $35 shipped for mine there new.

HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 4TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5inch Internal Hard Drive (for NAS, Desktop PC/Mac, Surveillance Storage, CCTV DVR) - 5 Year Warranty (Renewed) Though renewed, 90 days with Amazon, 5 years with seller. Never had a problem yet with these at all. $66

Noctua NH-U12S - Premium CPU Cooler with NF-F12 120mm Fan (Brown) $60

So $1490 or less if you get a 5700 and the headset from another place And this is the whole shebang!

 

[Stuka87]

If it was only for cyberpunk I would say wait until November to see benchmarks and how it runs on the current gen hardware. But since you need to put something together now or soon, the x570 isn't bad at all. For 1080p it's fine and I don't think you are spoiled to want to run the game maxed out completely.

If you do want to max it out when it's released in November (if not another delay), I'd say find a used GPU to hold it together until November and then you will be able to spend money more efficiently for a better AMD/Nvidia GPU once the new series are released near end of the summer or fall, whichever is first.

I think you are confused. x570 is the chipset on the motherboard, not a GPU. The chipset won't impact game performance if everything is being run at stock speeds. The x570 offers additional features over most B550 boards which come in handy if overclocking or the like.

 

[sze5003]

I think you are confused. x570 is the chipset on the motherboard, not a GPU. The chipset won't impact game performance if everything is being run at stock speeds. The x570 offers additional features over most B550 boards which come in handy if overclocking or the like.

Yup you are right. I've never owned/worked with an amd system so this makes complete sense that it's integrated. For what he wants I think it's fine until the new gpu's are out.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

CL18 3600 Ram $67

Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD $150

Nanoxia Micro ATX Case for Gaming/Desktop/Cube/Tower - Rexgear 2 Limited Edition, Championship White $70 I absolutely LOVE this case, see below picture.

ASRock B550M Steel Legend Supports 3rd Gen AMD AM4 Ryzen/Future AMD Ryzen Processors Motherboard $190

Amd 3600X new for $199 shipped on ebay. Id link, but Ill prolly get in trouble for it :O

XFX RX 5700 XT Triple Dissipation 8GB GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card RX-57XT83LD8 $380 (cheaper if you go with a NON XT)

TCL 40S325 40 Inch 1080p Smart LED Roku TV (2019) $193 (My son uses a 42" TCL 4K, and looks stunning, as good as my 32" Curved Sceptre, which is over double the price of this tv for some darn reason )

Apevia ATX-PR800W Prestige 800W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply $65

Logitech G633 Artemis Spectrum RGB 7.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset, Black (Renewed) $54, and I would get these over the 635, for you lose DDL, and yet they have a bigger speaker in the 635, I have had both, still have my 635, and they sounded the exact same to me. Now you can get them cheaper you know where, for I paid $35 shipped for mine there new.

HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 4TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5inch Internal Hard Drive (for NAS, Desktop PC/Mac, Surveillance Storage, CCTV DVR) - 5 Year Warranty (Renewed) Though renewed, 90 days with Amazon, 5 years with seller. Never had a problem yet with these at all. $66

Noctua NH-U12S - Premium CPU Cooler with NF-F12 120mm Fan (Brown) $60

So $1490 or less if you get a 5700 and the headset from another place And this is the whole shebang!

I don't think I would do that build. Bit higher than I planned to spend since I don't game like I used to.

 

[zinfamous]

This is around $1150, and uses a 3600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fprrb8

This is definitely the route I would go.

Since you are looking at Zen+ (you should really be looking at Zen 2, though)
Do NOT go lower than a 450 MoBo. Aim for a 550, but 450 should be more than sufficient for your needs, though I feel that 550 should be your target, probably, if you go with Zen 2 (3600/3600 + chips. which, really, are the best chips right now for what you want). you don't want to OC, so you are looking at the x50 boards. x70 boards are more than you need. So, that being the case, stick to price shopping 450/550 boards, and with your use case, you want solid capacitors. These days, (these generations, anyway), I think you want ASRock and Asus, of course. MSI makes solid boards, I think? Been a minute since I owned one, but I know for the Zen stuff, ASRock seems to be the community favorite for reliability and smooth power delivery. ...I used to really like Gigabyte, but apparently they have fallen off into value territory with their component sourcing?

..but you said you are going to stick with 1080p?

I mean, if that is your absolute shelf of all that you wanna do, then look at an RX 580 or maybe a 2060 for your GPU? I'm not sure what prices are these days for those ~older cards, but that should be more than sufficient. Saves you some cash for:

Why are you swapping out the TV, and does the replacement need to be part of that $1k budget? That's kind of a big deal... Sure, you can get a potato 1080 monitor/display for about $100 or even a TV for slightly more than that, but are you planning to go bigger than 32" and is this supposed to be dedicated, or dual purpose, and what is your sitting distance? The 5700XT is great and what you should get now in an AMD card, but you might be able to save some cash there....

If games only, and desk distance, I wouldn't consider anything under 2k at that size. Really, 27" is a great size for a solid 2k (1440p) display.

....but if this is meant for couch TV and gaming all in one, then 32" and 1080 should be more fine for you. (hell, at 6ft+...I'd still probably go with ~45"+ and 1080p and be satisfied for all purposes, lol. age...)

 

[zinfamous]

If it was only for cyberpunk I would say wait until November to see benchmarks and how it runs on the current gen hardware. But since you need to put something together now or soon, the x570 isn't bad at all. For 1080p it's fine and I don't think you are spoiled to want to run the game maxed out completely.

If you do want to max it out when it's released in November (if not another delay), I'd say find a used GPU to hold it together until November and then you will be able to spend money more efficiently for a better AMD/Nvidia GPU once the new series are released near end of the summer or fall, whichever is first.

yeah, this is a very good point. I forgot about the x70 cards. ....those things are solid. and I recall the 570 being a really good value?

OP is looking at 1080P. CyberPunk or whatever, that should pretty much tell you all you need to know. It's hard to imagine the mid-to-top-end cards from 2+ years ago not being able to push 1080 with no sweat on today's AAA games, and over the next couple of years.

....though, I'd still be inclined to go with the regular 5700 as the minimum card to buy, today. the GCN cards feel....eh, I mean (hell, I have a Vega and it works for the most part, but it happens to be the most disappointing card--issues and bugs--from AMD that I've ever had, lol. I've never had to even think about my hardware churning out the frames).

EDIT: ha! missed the chipset confusion. I mean... RX 570 cards exist, right? I know that's an AMD thing...and it's actually a solid card for price/1080 performance. Though I haven't really looked at it in some time. RX 570 should be good for OP's needs, but not the best option, and possible limited supply could mean garbage prices that make no sense.

I mean...here's an XFX 8GB RX 570 for $150....and XFX was/is? this AMD generation's hotness for GPUs for a minute.

That saves a good bit of coin, especially if you are dead set on 1080. ....but me, I still wouldn't go lower than 5700, haha. And I can't honestly say that the 570 will do all you want, but others can advise you. I know that I would spend more money than I need, but that's me....

(I built for UW 2k...so 3440 x 1440...which really is close to 4K, and my Vega64 doesn't quite cut it. It's OK, it's fine for me, I'm a tolerant human and suffer things. I got it because it was on hot sale, for that same price of the 5700XT that you posted, which was a huge discount at the time for my card, one of, at the time, the faster performing cards out there--3 fan Sapphire Nitro+ blah blah, so ~40% of the price is the only reason I stepped up).

...that 5700XT will smoke my card, so I am told, and so you are getting it at a great price. I am probably going to use this thing for Cyberpunk as well, but at ~4k resolution, ....so look man. You're more than fine with that 5700XT. You might be paying too much if that is your target at 1080.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

This is definitely the route I would go.

Since you are looking at Zen+ (you should really be looking at Zen 2, though)
Do NOT go lower than a 450 MoBo. Aim for a 550, but 450 should be more than sufficient for your needs, though I feel that 550 should be your target, probably, if you go with Zen 2 (3600/3600 + chips. which, really, are the best chips right now for what you want). you don't want to OC, so you are looking at the x50 boards. x70 boards are more than you need. So, that being the case, stick to price shopping 450/550 boards, and with your use case, you want solid capacitors. These days, (these generations, anyway), I think you want ASRock and Asus, of course. MSI makes solid boards, I think? Been a minute since I owned one, but I know for the Zen stuff, ASRock seems to be the community favorite for reliability and smooth power delivery. ...I used to really like Gigabyte, but apparently they have fallen off into value territory with their component sourcing?

..but you said you are going to stick with 1080p?

I mean, if that is your absolute shelf of all that you wanna do, then look at an RX 580 or maybe a 2060 for your GPU? I'm not sure what prices are these days for those ~older cards, but that should be more than sufficient. Saves you some cash for:

Why are you swapping out the TV, and does the replacement need to be part of that $1k budget? That's kind of a big deal... Sure, you can get a potato 1080 monitor/display for about $100 or even a TV for slightly more than that, but are you planning to go bigger than 32" and is this supposed to be dedicated, or dual purpose, and what is your sitting distance? The 5700XT is great and what you should get now in an AMD card, but you might be able to save some cash there....

If games only, and desk distance, I wouldn't consider anything under 2k at that size. Really, 27" is a great size for a solid 2k (1440p) display.

....but if this is meant for couch TV and gaming all in one, then 32" and 1080 should be more fine for you. (hell, at 6ft+...I'd still probably go with ~45"+ and 1080p and be satisfied for all purposes, lol. age...)

The board on my last machine was an asrock and it was rock solid for the 7 years it was in use. I don't really have a lot of experience with other aftermarket mobos though. Don't plan on overclocking because that requires more cooling and replacing parts sooner.

Yeah 1080 will probably be it for me since 4k cards are out of my price range at this point. I have other hobbies and this is probably my cheapest one. TV is not part of my budget. The one I currently have is an old LCD that is several years old(bought it used around 08) and has an entire vertical line of dead pixels. Also a good 2 inches of bezel on each side and it can almost keep me warm if the heat goes out, and I turn up the back light. lol It's about 4 feet from my face. 32 is plenty big for my setup. I also have a 42in 4k that sits in my living room basically unused. But I would have to rearrange my "man cave" to use that. The tv is just a monitor with subpar sound good enough to watch youtube and netflix if I don't want to use headphones. My needs are pretty simple. But hey if I can do it cheaper then why not.

After I get this machine built I'm going to get my old machine running again and use it for a media server until the "wheels fall off." Storage is cheap I was planning to convert the remainder of my DVD/VHS collection and make it available on my plex server for easier viewing.