"Supercar is a term used most often to describe an expensive high end car. It has been defined specifically as "a very expensive, fast or powerful car".Stated in more general terms: "it must be very fast, with sporting handling to match", "it should be sleek and eye-catching" and its price should be "one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own"."
GTR does have the speed, but it's.
1. Not rare (I see them around town all the time. I know at least 3 people who have them locally. How often do I see a LFA? Never)
2. Expensive? Nope, which is why you see them and they're not rare.
3. Sleek and eye-catching? lol, right. GTR is one of the ugliest sports cars around.
It may have the performance, but it is not a supercar. Period. So quit being a fanboy and bringing up your car. Watch the video and enjoy. It's about watching fast cars go fast, but about "waaaahhh my car wasn't there".
satyajitmenon
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Not quite. What you described is an exotic super car. Cars such as F458, MP4C, Veyron, etc.
It's very simple, the GT-R is a super car because of its performance and relatively high price of $97k+. Same goes for a ZR1. They're not rare at all, but deliver levels of performance much above regular sports cars, so therefore it's a super car.
On the contrary, a relatively pedestrian 911 Carrera S is priced the same, but doesn't come close in terms of performance, so it's NOT a super car.
Well that's not my definition, hense the quotes. It did go on to say something about ultra-high-end exotics are part of the definition of supercars.
The Nissan GT-R doesn't fit in that category. Performance isn't everything and it's under 100k price take clearly shows it's not an ultra-high end exotic.
We can just agree to disagree, but just because it's performance is great doesn't mean it's a supercar or an exotic.
$97k is not a relatively high price when compared to supercars.
So would you consider the Corvette z06 a supercar as well?
http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet...2013-nissan-gt-r-premium-comparison-test.html
GT-R best lap time was a 1:23.8
Corvette's best lap time was 1:22.7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVw3-vNxzRc
They are around the same price optioned out and performance wise they are very close. So do those two factors make them supercars? No, they are not rare, ultra-high-end exotic sports cars.
So enjoy the video and let's quit arguing why some cars are not in the video. lol
Really, that's the best troll you've got in you? Oh and while biochemists do alright, "my car" certainly isn't a GTR. It is, however, a 500+hp turbocharged AWD performance vehicle, much like the Aventador. It's not a matter of which is "my car" or not, it's what makes the most sense as a comparison here. I have simply mentioned that the LFA is the odd man out here. You really may want to go back and read what others have said as well there "fanboy".
You apparently need to brush up on the definition of a troll post. All I did was respond to your post, which for someone like myself who needs to "go back and read", you may want to do so yourself. Your initial post was:
"Considering the selection in here, it seems odd that they didn't include a GTR, neat vid though"
Someone else responded that the GTR is not a supercar. You responded that it was. I simply responded to your post that the GTR is a grand touring car, NOT a supercar by definition. Sorry if you feel this is "trolling", but it's pretty funny that you're the one who brought up GTR, not me. My opinion my not be in line with yours, but that is certainly NOT trolling. Grow up.
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I think y'all should agree to disagree. "Supercar" is an impossible term as it's very subjective by nature.
I don't find it unreasonable at all to consider the GT-R a "supercar" or to compare it to other more expensive models of fairly similar performance.
I also don't find it unreasonable to hold a view that the GT-R being sub-$100k and what, 10k units/year disqualifies it from "supercar" status, regardless of it's fairly epic performance characteristics.
Get it? Holding to one side and getting panties twisted over subjective issues just makes you look unhinged.
I don't find it unreasonable at all to consider the GT-R a "supercar" or to compare it to other more expensive models of fairly similar performance.
I also don't find it unreasonable to hold a view that the GT-R being sub-$100k and what, 10k units/year disqualifies it from "supercar" status, regardless of it's fairly epic performance characteristics.
Get it? Holding to one side and getting panties twisted over subjective issues just makes you look unhinged.
Agreed. I said that in an earlier post. It's just an opinion and we can agree to disagree!
hey, let's take all these great handling cars and run them in a straight line instead of a track!
I think they should do both, track and straight line. Straight line demonstrates power and the track demonstrates handling.
Better yet, the ignore list, ahh I love that feature
lol, grow the fuck up. It's like talking to a 6 year old kid who gets upset because he lost his blanket. No one is trolling you and it's pathetic you can't talk like a reasonable adult.
GTaudiophile
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LFA sounds the best.
Otherwise, Italy > *.
If I could pick any two super cars, they would be the 458 Spyder and the Lambo.
Otherwise, Italy > *.
If I could pick any two super cars, they would be the 458 Spyder and the Lambo.
It's f**king annoying when someone says they are putting you on ignore. Not because they are ignoring you, but because they announce it. If you want to ignore someone, ignore them. Otherwise it sounds like a little kid that tries to get the last word in and then runs off.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOQFMlpdVI
The GTR is 1 of 3 cars that are in the 2 sec club!, another is the Veyron! The GTR is a supercar.
My mate has one and it is stupidly quick, however it is awful in the city!
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There has to be something wrong with those times...there is no way a Z06 is faster around a lap than the GTR....
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I dont believe the handling on the Z06 is up with the GTR, its certainly not as fast or as quick in acceleration.
The GTR has hydrogen in its tyre FFS, just to ensure tyre stability....
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To all those crying about the GT-R not being included...
MotorTrend, the same people who made the OP video, already did a video with the GT-R, in nearly the exact same format against the Porsche GT2, Ferrari 599, and Corvette ZR1.
The GT-R was SPANKED by all 3 of them. It wasn't even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4
Derp. Let's take the car that came in dead last to a lesser group of cars and race it against cars in another league. Great idea.
*facepalm*
MotorTrend, the same people who made the OP video, already did a video with the GT-R, in nearly the exact same format against the Porsche GT2, Ferrari 599, and Corvette ZR1.
The GT-R was SPANKED by all 3 of them. It wasn't even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4
Derp. Let's take the car that came in dead last to a lesser group of cars and race it against cars in another league. Great idea.
SolMeister said:
*facepalm*
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