Bret Baier: FBI Sources Believe Clinton Indictment Likely

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umbrella39

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The tears, such glorious tears! Loving every minute of it.

Except the only ones crying are the TrumpTards. For several months now. This will culminate when a piss poor concession speech is given by the screaming carrot demon in less than a week...
 

guachi

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It isn't "FBI sources" that are saying an indictment is likely, it is "sources intimately familiar" with the case.

If Fox had actual sources within the FBI they would have said so.

In other words, they got nothin'.
 

Zorba

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At least you are honest enough to admit there were transparency and security issues. While those issues in and of themselves are not criminal, the intent behind them as well as the actions during the investigation of them could very well be.

Intent however is incredibly difficult to prove. Some see this as a yet another witch hunt. Others see this as the system locking arms to protect one of its own. No matter how this plays out, those perceptions will linger, because there is some truth to both.

I personally have a lot of issue with the use of private e-mail services for official government business for many reasons. However, it appears the use of private e-mail is very widespread among high ranking officials. The fact that no one except Hillary is under investigation for it, and there has been literally zero progress towards making the practice explicitly illegal, shows me this really is nothing but a witch hunt.

The fact that there were classified e-mails on the unsecured side of the State Department's system is a violation. E-mailing classified information is a violation too, but I've heard of no investigation into the senders, only Hillary. Not properly marking documents is also a violation and fyi putting (c) next to one paragraph and nothing anywhere else is not properly marking. Again since the only person being looked into is Hillary, as opposed to the numerous other people involved or the thousands of other times this happens throughout the government and industry, shows once again this is a witch hunt.
 

Jhhnn

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And Hillary was sure to be indicted within 60 days... back in January. It's the same breathless innuendo & bullshit conspiracy theorizing we've seen for 8 years.

Right now, it's all directed to one end- making Trump president. The sheer folly in that for the average voter is astounding.
 

Jhhnn

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Long standing precedence like former Presidents stepping on planes to taint active investigations? Precedence like members of the DOJ with strong ties to the campaign staff of a candidate under active investigation? Collusion to minimize the political damage of something that should be open and transparent?

There is nothing precedented about any of this.

Multi level conspiracy theorizing, huh?
 

fskimospy

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Long standing precedence like former Presidents stepping on planes to taint active investigations? Precedence like members of the DOJ with strong ties to the campaign staff of a candidate under active investigation? Collusion to minimize the political damage of something that should be open and transparent?

There is nothing precedented about any of this.

Basically none of what you wrote here is even remotely true or accurate. Where are you reading this nonsense? It's sad to see that you've been duped.
 

Sunburn74

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I personally have a lot of issue with the use of private e-mail services for official government business for many reasons. However, it appears the use of private e-mail is very widespread among high ranking officials. The fact that no one except Hillary is under investigation for it, and there has been literally zero progress towards making the practice explicitly illegal, shows me this really is nothing but a witch hunt.

The fact that there were classified e-mails on the unsecured side of the State Department's system is a violation. E-mailing classified information is a violation too, but I've heard of no investigation into the senders, only Hillary. Not properly marking documents is also a violation and fyi putting (c) next to one paragraph and nothing anywhere else is not properly marking. Again since the only person being looked into is Hillary, as opposed to the numerous other people involved or the thousands of other times this happens throughout the government and industry, shows once again this is a witch hunt.
I think I would agree. If there is true outrage regarding the mishandling of classified emails, the emphasis would be on quietly resolving the issue. In a normal case, all that would happen is an email or memo would be sent out and the problem would end overnight without anyone hearing about it. It clearly is a witch hunt for political purposes and it's shameful
 

rudder

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Ladies and Gentleman, this is what's wrong with the country. Someone willingly and as SECRETARY OF THE UNITED STATES setting up a private server, knowing that security measures will be bypassed is NOT a crime to these people. This here is the thought behind the left.

Screw her personal server. As Secretary of State she used her position to make her and Bill millions in exchange for favors.

Just look what she did for UBS. The IRS wanted 52,000 names in a tax evasion investigation. UBS was using Swiss banking law to protect the names attached to secret accounts. The IRS was breathing heavy... until an expensive fee for a Bill Clinton speech, a Hillary jaunt to Geneva, and a large donation to the Clinton Foundation. Suddenly the IRS has to settle for only 4450 names.

http://www.eurodialogue.eu/Swiss bank's donations to Clinton Foundation increased after Hillary intervention in IRS dispute

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

In any other world this is called bribery.
 

fskimospy

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Screw her personal server. As Secretary of State she used her position to make her and Bill millions in exchange for favors.

Just look what she did for UBS. The IRS wanted 52,000 names in a tax evasion investigation. UBS was using Swiss banking law to protect the names attached to secret accounts. The IRS was breathing heavy... until an expensive fee for a Bill Clinton speech, a Hillary jaunt to Geneva, and a large donation to the Clinton Foundation. Suddenly the IRS has to settle for only 4450 names.

http://www.eurodialogue.eu/Swiss bank's donations to Clinton Foundation increased after Hillary intervention in IRS dispute

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

In any other world this is called bribery.

Except for this one, that is.

The article adds that “there is no evidence of any link between Mrs. Clinton’s involvement in the case and the bank’s donations to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, or its hiring of Mr. Clinton.”
 

Pens1566

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I personally have a lot of issue with the use of private e-mail services for official government business for many reasons. However, it appears the use of private e-mail is very widespread among high ranking officials. The fact that no one except Hillary is under investigation for it, and there has been literally zero progress towards making the practice explicitly illegal, shows me this really is nothing but a witch hunt.

The fact that there were classified e-mails on the unsecured side of the State Department's system is a violation. E-mailing classified information is a violation too, but I've heard of no investigation into the senders, only Hillary. Not properly marking documents is also a violation and fyi putting (c) next to one paragraph and nothing anywhere else is not properly marking. Again since the only person being looked into is Hillary, as opposed to the numerous other people involved or the thousands of other times this happens throughout the government and industry, shows once again this is a witch hunt.

This ^
 

First

Lifer
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Ladies and Gentleman, this is what's wrong with the country. Someone willingly and as SECRETARY OF THE UNITED STATES setting up a private server, knowing that security measures will be bypassed is NOT a crime to these people. This here is the thought behind the left.

Lawmakers have been allowed to set up private servers forever. Nobody but the koolaid sippers really cares about Hillary's emails.

The tears, such glorious tears! Loving every minute of it.

Aw, sorry you're so sad kiddo.
 

Sunburn74

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Lawmakers have been allowed to set up private servers forever. Nobody but the koolaid sippers really cares about Hillary's emails.



Aw, sorry you're so sad kiddo.
Like I said if they really wanted to end the practice all that would happen is a memo would go out and it would stop overnight.
 

rudder

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Can you tell me what criminal statues you believe were violated? You should also CC the FBI because they apparently don't have your depth of knowledge.

If the statues and rules Hillary violated were posted would you say ok or would you stick to the story that Hillary Clinton did not send any classified information through her private server?

A lot of people in the FBI have adequate knowledge of statutes. But when the sitting president endorses Hillary... you don't think his appointment of the boss of the DoJ will make it a point to drop the investigation? People like you are why there is anger among voters and why Trump is so popular.

This denial bullcrap is getting old.
 

ivwshane

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Highly credible fox news report. they really are the gold standard for news reporting these days. No ethical concerns at all regarding these reports from unnamed but definitely existent and unbiased sources. If only every other news organization could follow in their foot steps.

I hope next fox news will go back to talking about 911 being a hoax, bigfoot's existence (he's currently in hiding within the halls of the pentagon), and how big pharma is putting dangerous mind controlling drugs in our water. They are the only news organization willing to speak the truth on these matters and I'm tired of these stories being suppressed by the liberal media.


Is it me or does it seem like after Rogers exit they fox news has gotten worse and even more extreme? Every web article I see from them now seem to be pushing conspiracy like theories left and right.
 

fskimospy

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If the statues and rules Hillary violated were posted would you say ok or would you stick to the story that Hillary Clinton did not send any classified information through her private server?

I definitely think you should post those statutes and let's talk about them! When I show you that there's no evidence that she violated them will you admit it? I doubt it.

A lot of people in the FBI have adequate knowledge of statutes. But when the sitting president endorses Hillary... you don't think his appointment of the boss of the DoJ will make it a point to drop the investigation? People like you are why there is anger among voters and why Trump is so popular.

This denial bullcrap is getting old.

I think if she made it a point to drop the investigation that would be a very large scandal. Surely when making such an accusation you have literally any evidence for this, right?

This 'made up bullshit that I demand you accept as fact' bullcrap is getting old.
 

bshole

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Do you think there is anything of substance whatsoever to the email scandal?

Instead of wondering, how about you provide the substance of an email that demonstrates a substantial breech of law? Vague allegations of wrongdoing are worthless.

How many millions of times have we been told that Hillary is been on the verge on indictment? There is an answer and it is provided by Google. A minimum of 52 million.

The silliness of this is that there are people that believe this kind of crap will help defeat Clinton in this election. If you want to defeat Clinton, engage her ideas and her policies and demonstrate/explain why they are bad for America. Then explain why Trump's vision is better. Best of luck with that.

And all the interviews are happening again. And there is now a lot of evidence, (big league evidence, tremendous evidence, the best evidence, many people say so) that will mean the FBI will, and this is a direct quote from Brett Baier, "continue to likely an indictment."

So, quickly, let's just "Google it" shall we?

52 million responses. 52 million. According to right wing rags like the Federalist and Truth Dig, many quoting Fox News, Hillary Clinton is going to be indicted soon; "soon" being a meaningless word. The date stamps go back years, showing how pervasive this desire to see Hillary behind bars is.

But let that number sink in. 52 Million mentions of that phrase and exactly zero indictments.

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/11/hillary-indictment-again/
 

Starbuck1975

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Basically none of what you wrote here is even remotely true or accurate. Where are you reading this nonsense? It's sad to see that you've been duped.
President Clinton did not step on Lynch's plane? The Podesta leaks don't expose coordination between the State department and Clinton campaign? Podesta and Kadzik don't have a relationship?

There is smoke all over this forest, and the fire is Clinton's utter lack of judgement. Fortunately for her she is running against someone with even poorer judgement, unless of course there is another lurking October surprise.

This election is a race to the bottom, literally.
 

fskimospy

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President Clinton did not step on Lynch's plane?

Stepping on a plane is not stepping on a plain to taint an investigation.

The Podesta leaks don't expose coordination between the State department and Clinton campaign.

They don't show collusion to minimize political damage as you claimed.

Podesta and Kadzik don't have a relationship?

So? This is exactly what I was talking about before, you're doing the same thing that conservatives have been doing all along which is taking isolated pieces of information and then taking them somewhere that the evidence doesn't support.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Stepping on a plane is not stepping on a plain to taint an investigation.



They don't show collusion to minimize political damage as you claimed.



So? This is exactly what I was talking about before, you're doing the same thing that conservatives have been doing all along which is taking isolated pieces of information and then taking them somewhere that the evidence doesn't support.
Isolated pieces of information that form a very clear pattern. Fortunately for the Clintonistas, as bad as that pattern looks, it still shines brightly next to Trump's.

Of course, there is a very real possibility of Clinton's victory being a Pyrrhic one.
 

trenchfoot

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That bastard Comey pumping a last gasping breath of life into the desperate hopes of those that want to see Hillary burned at the stake of public opinion and denied the presidency is cruel and inhumane punishment. That breath is nothing but a wisp of tainted air that's prolonging by a few heartbeats the futile hopes of the defeated denying defeat.

If this sole issue is what the Repubs are staking their hopes on IRT denying Hillary the presidency, then I'd say the battle is already lost and it got lost the moment Trump won their primary.

What little Trump has been offering the electorate at large has been completely overshadowed by what he has been offering his stirred-into-a-frenzy base of loonies, and obviously, that is not going to win a national contest.

Fighting to one's last breath is a noble and honorable act, but doing it to illicit a Trump presidency over Hillary is an act of delusional desperation at its peak of insanity.

The nation can withstand another four years of Clinton clan policy-making. That can't be said with certainty about Trump and the like-minded staff he's going to gather around him.
 
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