Breaking: Shooting at CT elementary school

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pontifex

Lifer
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do you have any statistics or facts to back up this claim?

was that link not good enough? look at the UK, guns are banned but crimes with other items (knives) have increased.

Getting rid of 1 type of weapon is not going to stop sick fucks from committing crimes with other weapons.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Yes, mental health treatment is very poor in this country.

But they are linked. If you allow mentally ill people to go to walmart and buy semi-auto weapons then there is going to be problems. In other countries mentally ill people usually go on rampages with knives and not with guns right from a rambo movie.

The current background check does include mental illness so if these people were being correctly diagnosed and the mental health professionals were properly reporting it there would be an issue.

Contrary to popular belief you can't just walk into walmart and walk out with a gun like it was a box of cereal or a baseball bat.
 
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people with documented mental illness are not allowed to buy guns.

no is going on rampages with fully automatic weapons, let's get that straight. Don't try to make this into something it's not.

You just made everyones point. Why do you think they aren't getting fully automatic weapons? Think about it really hard.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
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Would it not be a bit more reasonable to create a separate thread for a gun control debate, rather than cause havoc in this one?
 

Kev

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was that link not good enough? look at the UK, guns are banned but crimes with other items (knives) have increased.

Getting rid of 1 type of weapon is not going to stop sick fucks from committing crimes with other weapons.

Are you unable to see the difference in lethality between a gun and a knife, or are you being intentionally obtuse?
 

Shlong

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Those facebook comments are probably photoshopped. Same name as killer and lives in the same town as the shootings (Newton, CT).
 

darkxshade

Lifer
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Would it not be a bit more reasonable to create a separate thread for a gun control debate, rather than cause havoc in this one?


You would think that would work but like guns, whether or not you control the gun talk in the thread, someone is going to bring the gun talk into the thread.
 

Phokus

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was that link not good enough? look at the UK, guns are banned but crimes with other items (knives) have increased.

Getting rid of 1 type of weapon is not going to stop sick fucks from committing crimes with other weapons.

Harder to kill with 'other items' though, see the 22 kids slashed with a knife in china, no reported deaths:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ool-article-1.1220230?localLinksEnabled=false

If he had a gun, that number would have been much higher and they would be dead.
 
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I'm fucking pissed myself. And yes I'm blaming you fucking slack jawed yokels that hold on so dearly to your gun rights that you'll sit by and watch mass killing after mass killing but still contend every man woman and child needs a gun.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Would it not be a bit more reasonable to create a separate thread for a gun control debate, rather than cause havoc in this one?

Agreed. I'm done talking about it. I feel bad for that kid if he isn't the one who did this. Very irresponsible to put his picture and fb page out there if he isn't involved & dead. That is a serious threat to his life. Poor guy :\.
 

dabuddha

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Agreed. I'm done talking about it. I feel bad for that kid if he isn't the one who did this. Very irresponsible to put his picture and fb page out there if he isn't involved & dead. That is a serious threat to his life. Poor guy :\.

Goes with the territory of being on Facebook and making your life/persona public on the internet.
 

torpid

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was that link not good enough? look at the UK, guns are banned but crimes with other items (knives) have increased.

Getting rid of 1 type of weapon is not going to stop sick fucks from committing crimes with other weapons.

I'll take knives over guns. The added bonus is the additional forensic evidence from the attacker accidentally injuring him/herself.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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Da hell? His own mom is one of the dead according to CNN. She was a teacher there.

WHAT THE FUCK!? Maybe he unloaded in his mom's classroom??