Breaking: SCOTUS strikes down Texas abortion restriction

[Jhhnn]

You're casting pearls before swine. :\

It's for the lurkers as much as it is for buckshot.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

If you're telling us that you don't empathize with others then you're telling us you're a sociopath.

Either that or you don't believe in or want the right to bodily sovereignty for yourself.

Suffice it to say, even if you don't, the rest of us rational individuals do, so we extend to him the same respect we expect from others.

Do you believe that you enjoy a right to bodily sovereignty yourself? Where does that "come from"?

*crickets*

It very telling (of the painfully obvious, but still) that the fuck stick won't answer his own questions when put back to him.

 

[buckshot24]

*crickets*

It very telling (of the painfully obvious, but still) that the fuck stick won't answer his own questions when put back to him.

I've gone back to ignoring you. You're too deranged and unhinged to deal with. I don't need to eat the crap sandwich you constantly give out. Back to crickets.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I've gone back to ignoring you. You're too deranged and unhinged to deal with. I don't need to eat the crap sandwich you constantly give out. Back to crickets.

It's not like you could ever refute my arguments in the first place. Your only choices are to pretend to ignore me or be continuously humiliated.

I'll let you in on a secret though: you're already the laughing stock of this forum. Pretending you don't see the humiliation doesn't make it go away.

 

[brycejones]

I've gone back to ignoring you. You're too deranged and unhinged to deal with. I don't need to eat the crap sandwich you constantly give out. Back to crickets.

How cowardly of you.

 

[Blackjack200]

How cowardly of you.

It looks like "ignoring" just means he has to click on each of Cerpin Taxt's posts to read them. Also, isn't it against the rules to talk about ignoring people?

Ban.

 

[brycejones]

It looks like "ignoring" just means he has to click on each of Cerpin Taxt's posts to read them. Also, isn't it against the rules to talk about ignoring people?

Ban.

So far he has refused to answer the simple question put to him. He says he doesn't believe something but consistently refuses to actually state what he believes. Just asks questions without ever having an intent to engage in real dialog. A behavior AKA buckshatting.

 

[buckshot24]

How cowardly of you.

I'm not a coward.

 

[MongGrel]

It's not like you could ever refute my arguments in the first place. Your only choices are to pretend to ignore me or be continuously humiliated.

I'll let you in on a secret though: you're already the laughing stock of this forum. Pretending you don't see the humiliation doesn't make it go away.

+1

 

[jackstar7]

I'm not a coward.

Disproved.

 

[brycejones]

I'm not a coward.

Your history says otherwise. See this thread.

Coward

 

[Eli]

I tried to put you on the list but couldn't.

Where have I assumed or hinted any of the drivel you accuse me of thinking you said? I asked a pretty simple question. I didn't see your answer until now.

It was tongue in cheek man. I was stating my opinion, and then stating how I believed you would read/take it.

So was I wrong?

 

[buckshot24]

It was tongue in cheek man. I was stating my opinion, and then stating how I believed you would read/take it.

So was I wrong?

Yes you were. I was under a barrage there for a moment so forgive me completely missing it.

 

[buckshot24]

Disproved.

How so?

 

[Eli]

Yes you were. I was under a barrage there for a moment so forgive me completely missing it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally open to discussing this with you in a real manner, it's just that you seem incapable of that - you're reaping what you sow. I don't usually post like that, and you know it.

I don't believe that a woman should feel shame if she has made an informed, educated decision to carry out this procedure and she believes that it will be beneficial to her life. I don't believe it's my (or your) place to tell her otherwise.

What do you believe?

 

[buckshot24]

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally open to discussing this with you in a real manner, it's just that you seem incapable of that - you're reaping what you sow. I don't usually post like that, and you know it.

I don't believe that a woman should feel shame if she has made an informed, educated decision to carry out this procedure and she believes that it will be beneficial to her life. I don't believe it's my (or your) place to tell her otherwise.

What do you believe?

I believe a woman should feel great shame and if she doesn't there is something wrong with her. In my view it is never a proper choice to kill the baby growing in their womb to fix a mistake they made in the past. It isn't responsible, in my view, it is a cop out.

 

[Eli]

I believe a woman should feel great shame and if she doesn't there is something wrong with her. In my view it is never a proper choice to kill the baby growing in their womb to fix a mistake they made in the past. It isn't responsible, in my view, it is a cop out.

What basis does your viewpoint have in the real world, as in why do you believe this? I take it you believe this viewpoint is not negative?

Do you believe a woman should feel great shame for using contraceptives such as birth control, the morning after pill, and condoms?

 

[buckshot24]

What basis does your viewpoint have in the real world, as in why do you believe this? I take it you believe this viewpoint is not negative?

My viewpoint? Negative how? I look at deliberately killing the growing baby in a mother's womb as the same thing as deliberately killing her born child.

Do you believe a woman should feel great shame for using contraceptives such as birth control,

I am not against contraceptives.

the morning after pill,

Yes.

and condoms?

No.

The men should feel shame as well.

 

[brycejones]

I look at deliberately killing the growing baby in a mother's womb as deliberately killing her born child.

huh

 

[buckshot24]

huh

Yeah, that makes no sense. Let me edit that.

 

[Eli]

My viewpoint? Negative how? I look at deliberately killing the growing baby in a mother's womb as the same thing as deliberately killing her born child.

I was just attempting to ask why exactly you believe this. I assume it's because of your faith? You believe it's OK to restrict a woman's right to control her own body because you believe your faith puts more importance in the life of the baby?

You don't understand why it's hard for an "outsider" to view that as positive?

I am not against contraceptives.

I do appreciate you trying to convey your thoughts in a clear and concise manner, but accepting birth control and denouncing the morning after pill doesn't make any sense. Let's take it a step at a time.

Why exactly are you against the morning after pill? Nothing has happened yet - except sex, and lots of vigorous swimming. The morning after pill is a big dose of the same hormones in regular birth control, to ensure that the long process ahead cannot continue. It's fundamentally no different than regular birth control or even a condom; it stops the process from happening.

How come you can rationalize birth control, but not the morning after pill? How are they different in your mind?

Would anything presented to you ever change your mind that the morning after pill is just as acceptable as regular birth control, or condoms?

 

[buckshot24]

I was just attempting to ask why exactly you believe this. I assume it's because of your faith? You believe it's OK to restrict a woman's right to control her own body because you believe your faith puts more importance in the life of the baby?

It isn't just my faith. I simply believe the most helpless deserve to be protected and the developing baby in the womb is completely helpless. I don't consider the baby as part of the mother's body, it isn't her DNA.

You don't understand why it's hard for an "outsider" to view that as positive?

I'm not really concerned with whether people think this view is positive and frankly, I don't care.

I do appreciate you trying to convey your thoughts in a clear and concise manner, but accepting birth control and denouncing the morning after pill doesn't make any sense. Let's take it a step at a time.

I was thinking of something else apparently. I don't have a problem with the morning after pill.

 

[Eli]

Alright. But you're vehemently against the abortion pill? Which works the same way - by blocking hormones necessary for the process to continue, up to 70 days after. Even though there's still nothing resembling anything that could live on its own yet?

 

[lopri]

It is not at all surprising that every abortion discussion devolves into a predictable back and forth.. or should we not care about what the case was about?

Regardless of what you believe the ultimate truth of beginning of life or the wisdom of abortion (or its prohibition), it should be acknowledged that this case was not about those. Everyone knows the legislation was a sham and the court decided accordingly. It is not difficult to recognize that, IMO.

 

[buckshot24]

Alright. But you're vehemently against the abortion pill? Which works the same way - by blocking hormones necessary for the process to continue, up to 70 days after. Even though there's still nothing resembling anything that could live on its own yet?

A newborn can't live on its own. Anything that requires assistance to live doesn't deserve to be protected?