Breaking News: Canada has a Navy

[Londo_Jowo]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2004/09/mil-040910-nns01.htm

You didn't answer my question. Have you ever served in the US Navy?

Just because the US Navy gives information on what comprises a Carrier Strike (Battle) Group it doesn't mean that Cruisers, Destroyers, Submarines can't be deployed on special assignment patrols. The US Navy has been doing so for many years.

 

[Exterous]

So...are you trying to say that if you know where every CSG or ESG is that you therefore roughly know where every US submarine is?

 

[MotF Bane]

It's Canada trying to seize international waters, not Russia. Canada is flaunting international norms and standards.

Did you even read your own article?

 

[CanOWorms]

Did you even read your own article?

Yup. Did you read it?

 

[Whiskey16]

This is probably related to Canadian hostilities toward international straits.

Foolish trolling.

The Northwest Passage is no more international than the Inside Passage:



A precedent is of the USA whining against its undeterred access within certainly contained and internal Canadian territory and equally losing. Manifest Destiny our ass. 54-40 or fight never served you too well, nor will it ever.

 

[Infohawk]

We don't have much of a force, but enough to deter Russian, Chinese, and American from staking claim on Canadian natural resources.

That is ridiculous. It wouldn't stop any significant power and especially not the USA.

 

[cybrsage]

I went to "war" against the Ojibwa in a fifth flight Los Angeles fast attack sub. They kicked out butt. Not really a fair fight, as it was entirely in coastal waters were diesel subs reign supreme.

Got to tour it afterwards, nice sub. Old (I think it has since been decommissioned), but her submariners were people I would gladly have gone to war with, defending our continent.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Foolish trolling.

The Northwest Passage is no more international than the Inside Passage:



A precedent is of the USA whining against its undeterred access within certainly contained and internal Canadian territory and equally losing. Manifest Destiny our ass. 54-40 or fight never served you too well, nor will it ever.

The Northwest Passage is an international strait. Canada can cry as much as it wants, but it will lose as expected.

 

[pcgeek11]

No first off all the subs will belong to a battle group. Thats why I provided the links what the battle groups consist off.
Strike Group
a carrier
a guided missile cruiser
two guided missile destroyers
an attack submarine

Look at the carriers and put 1 and 1 together where you will find the subs.
So in short

Nope you strike out again. Although Carrier Battle groups do have submarines assigned. NOT all submarines are assigned to battle groups.

You obviously know nothing about the Navy. I served 20+ in the USN Submarine force, just so ya know.

 

[3chordcharlie]

It supposedly being internal waters isn't sufficient. Canada's claims are rejected by the international community.

Because it is more convenient to reject them. It doesn't make Canada's claim invalid.

 

[monovillage]

Because it is more convenient to reject them. It doesn't make Canada's claim invalid.

As long as Canada has the support of the U.S. behind it's claims, the "international community" can go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

 

[iGas]

That is ridiculous. It wouldn't stop any significant power and especially not the USA.

Perhaps Canada doesn't have the power to stop the US or others, but so far we manage to deterred a complete take over.

IMHO Canada have a good chance of holding our ground since most if not all US machinery are now made in poor quality China. Some US product aren't that well made as well, such as the U.S.S Thresher that sank due to poor workmanship.

 

[CanOWorms]

Because it is more convenient to reject them. It doesn't make Canada's claim invalid.

Good thing Canada is impotent to act on its own.

 

[CanOWorms]

As long as Canada has the support of the U.S. behind it's claims, the "international community" can go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

The United States is part of the international community that rejects Canadian claims.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Good thing Canada is impotent to act on its own.

You know, worms are really better for bobber-fishin'.

 

[Dominato3r]

This is probably related to Canadian hostilities towards international straits. Canadians are very hostile to the world right now, but they will obviously be defeated. This is the first step, IMO.

WTF?

 

[RbSX]

and apparently, this supposed navy has spies inside it :ninja:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/w...officer-accused-of-sharing-state-secrets.html

what country would actually want to spy on Canada? the Russians over Arctic Circle drama?

Fuck you. Especially considering all of the gold/diamonds/oil and the north west passage.

 

[RbSX]

Where are all the submarines located?

I am gonna guess you don't read STRATFOR very often.

 

[RbSX]

It supposedly being internal waters isn't sufficient. Canada's claims are rejected by the international community.

If this were the United States you'd be doing the same things we are. It's convenient that the rules don't apply when they don't suit you.

 

[RabidMongoose]

As long as Canada has the support of the U.S. behind it's claims, the "international community" can go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

The US is part of the "international community" here that rejects Canadian aggression.

What is Canada going to do anyways? It's easy for them to go against international law on paper, but the reality is that it is a very weak, pathetic, and selfish country that will not even be able to withstand the force of the US as a member of the international community.

The hilarious thing is that Canada is going all out on furthering global warming, trying to rape the global environment as much as it can for a quick buck, and it's creating the viability of this international strait for the rest of the world. Good job, you dumb Canadians.

 

[RabidMongoose]

If this were the United States you'd be doing the same things we are. It's convenient that the rules don't apply when they don't suit you.

If it were the US, then they would be able to enforce whatever they wanted even if it were against international law. Canada cannot because it is weak. As such, Canada will not be able to go against international law and the international community. Everyone knows that even Zimbabwe is more of a threat than Canada.

Canadians will probably cry about this for 100 years.

 

[RbSX]

If it were the US, then they would be able to enforce whatever they wanted even if it were against international law. Canada cannot because it is weak. As such, Canada will not be able to go against international law and the international community. Everyone knows that even Zimbabwe is more of a threat than Canada.

Canadians will probably cry about this for 100 years.

Yeah, because it's fucking retarded that you guys bitch and complain when people don't follow your rules, but don't respect the law of others.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Yeah, because it's fucking retarded that you guys bitch and complain when people don't follow your rules, but don't respect the law of others.

The US should follow international law, but since they have actually developed into a powerful nation, they can do whatever they ultimately want because they had the will to develop into a superpower.

Canada should follow international law, but since they failed to have the will to develop into a powerful nation and instead focused on things like greed and queen-worship, they have developed into a weak and pathetic nation, so they cannot prevent the implementation and follow through of international law.

Sorry, I understand that Canadians have a severe inferiority complex, but if you are weak and a pathetic country, then you will likely not be able to reject international law when the stronger countries like the US, various European countries, Russia, etc. come into the picture.

I bet that they would all laugh if Canada even tried to defy international law. I can just imagine it now, Canada's one leaky tug boat going up against a US carrier group, LOL!

 

[OutHouse]

The number of nuclear-powered attack submarines in the U.S. force has fallen from a peak of 98 in the late 1980s to 53 at the end of fiscal year 2010, a decline that roughly matches a drop in the overall size of the Navy since the end of the Cold War. Each Virginia-class attack submarine costs about $2.6 billion and carries a crew of roughly 135 officers and sailors.

And no they travel in a group. Doesn't mean they are sitting on each others bum as they can be miles apart which makes them still part of the group. They protect each other better that way and its harder to pick up a sub between other ships than a sub cruising alone on its own Lone Ranger style unless you believe Down Periscope is the US Navy

dude, are you confusing the US navy with the German Navy of WWII and wolf packs?

sorry but you really should stop posting because you have no clue on the operations of the US Navy.

the second bold part is just plain laughable. where do you get this shit? where ever it is stop looking there because its not improving your IQ.

 

[pcgeek11]

Perhaps Canada doesn't have the power to stop the US or others, but so far we manage to deterred a complete take over.

IMHO Canada have a good chance of holding our ground since most if not all US machinery are now made in poor quality China. Some US product aren't that well made as well, such as the U.S.S Thresher that sank due to poor workmanship.

Really. The Thresher sank in 1963 before the subsafe program.