BREAKING: Fox News Projects McCain Winning The Electoral College By 6 EV

[jpeyton]

Whenever a Republican is in legal trouble, they get to be an honorary Democrat for the day. At least if you're Fox News.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
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Well, I was mostly joking ... mostly. But okay, Fern, tell me what adjustments/assumptions Fox is using in this case?

I thought I just did (in my post you quoted).

While I do not claim to know precisely what adjustmenst/assumption Fox made in their specific poll, those that I mention came from an interview with a polltser on one of the netwroks earlier today. I.e., they were discusing why that pollster showed better standing for McCain than most others; difference in overall turnout and assumption about which way the undecided will break were the biggest differences he mentioned (larger turnout than other pollsters forcast thus diluting the effect of college age, new registrants and black voters to a smaller % than other polls, and demographics of undecided indicating more breaking for McCain than others think)

If you'll read my earlier thread, you'll find that some polls use far more adjustments than others (e,g., citizens versus registered voters versus likely voters). More adjustments = different results.

Edit: Link to explanation of poll differences & adjustments/assumptions used. Ignore my remarks and just look at the article quoted

Fern

So how do you know that this poll from Fox is more accurate and all of the other polls are inaccurate if you don't know the methodology behind Fox's poll?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I truly believe that if Obama gets elected he will do everything he can to marginalize Fox News.

Right now Democrats pretty much ignore Fox News. Everything I see from the Obama camp indicates to me that they want to take it to them for their lies and blatant biased coverage.

And this is good because??

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Whenever a Republican is in legal trouble, they get to be an honorary Democrat for the day. At least if you're Fox News.

Woops! I'm sure that was a clerical error of some sort. *Ahem*

 

[KGB]

I hate to call-out a Mod and certainly I'm no fan of Fox News, however, why is the link in the OP under the O'Reilly header? It seems ol' Bill has his own electoral college map and is projecting his warped view of reality as fact (as usual).

 

[Pacemaker]

I would guess that fox just wants people to watch their coverage of the election results. If the outcome is a forgone conclusion not as many will bother to watch. However, if they act like it is going to be neck and neck then more people will watch (if they buy into it that is).

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
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So how do you know that this poll from Fox is more accurate and all of the other polls are inaccurate if you don't know the methodology behind Fox's poll?

What??

Where the heck do you get that from?

I never said anything about any poll being more accurate. All I did was relay info I heard about how they arrive at their differences (i.e., it's not based on a poll of Fox viewers).

Fern

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Thread title had me going for a bit. I thought you meant they were projecting a win by 6 EV when in fact Fox is just putting tons of solid and almost-solid blue states in the toss-up category.

half true.

Fox is also putting states into McCains tally using a formula that IF APPLIED FAIRLY TO OBAMA would be putting some of those "toss up" states into the blue column as well.

seems biased imo.

Faux Noise?? NEVER!

Kieth Olbermann charge you for that line?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Whenever a Republican is in legal trouble, they get to be an honorary Democrat for the day. At least if you're Fox News.

Woops! I'm sure that was a clerical error of some sort. *Ahem*

It's not the first time Fox has done that.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Fox News Electoral Map shows McCain solidly winning states like IN and NC, where polls show McCain +/- <1 point. On the other hand, states like OR, NM, IA, MI, MN, WI, NH, PA, and VA, where Obama leads by 5-20 points, are toss-ups.

I have McCain either winning by a slim margin or a tie at 269.

Everyone should know by know after the two past cycles you cannot trust Polls.

Can't trust polls and then you quote Fox? The same Fox that polls like this
typical Fox poll

 

[Hugh H]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: sportage
Lets play predictions...If you want.
I predict early in the evening on the 4th, when the first results come in,
Obama will off the bat win a solid red state not thought to be in play.
Media will be shocked. Writing on the wall for Mccain.

Unless we're looking at different electoral maps (mine's here), the only state you could possibly be referring to is South Carolina?

Fern

Wow, that's exactly the map I had in mind. As for the final result, I think it will look just like that but with the rest of the toss-ups states going to McCain, with the exception of North Carolina. Based on early voting results and overall polling, I predict the state to go blue.

 

[mugs]

They're taking a page out of dmccowen's book. Make an absurd prediction, and if you're right people are impressed. If you're wrong, people forget. That's how psychics do cold readings.

Oh look, I see Dave is making the same prediction. :laugh:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I understand which ever halloween mask sells more has accurately predicted the winner 4? times in a row now. So, just find out which mask is more popular and you have your winner.

 

[aceO07]

Fox News saying the McCain will win is fine by me, maybe the viewers won't feel the need to go out and vote (for McCain)..

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Whenever a Republican is in legal trouble, they get to be an honorary Democrat for the day. At least if you're Fox News.

Come on. That was an honest mistake.


Well, I'd say that if it wasn't the 2nd or 3rd or 4th time it happened. :laugh:

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: KGBMAN
I hate to call-out a Mod and certainly I'm no fan of Fox News, however, why is the link in the OP under the O'Reilly header? It seems ol' Bill has his own electoral college map and is projecting his warped view of reality as fact (as usual).

But it's more fun to assume Fox News == O'Reilly.

Besides everyone knows O'Reilly supports Obama!

http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/...port-barack-obama.html

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Fox is so Republican biased it's silly. They have MICHIGAN as a toss-up state! LMFAO. :laugh:

I seriously can't wait for the Republican crash and burn on election day. I will literally spend the next four years pointing and laughing at every Republican I pass on the street.

That's not going to help things. This country needs to work together rather than become further divided.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Fox is so Republican biased it's silly. They have MICHIGAN as a toss-up state! LMFAO. :laugh:

I seriously can't wait for the Republican crash and burn on election day. I will literally spend the next four years pointing and laughing at every Republican I pass on the street.

That's not going to help things. This country needs to work together rather than become further divided.

So true. I see no reason why the millions of Republican voters can't be tapped to help fertilize our farms, forests, and grasslands. We could create something called Buckets for Bushes that could fit right in toilets and self enclose in a neat plastic bag for shipping. This could stimulate all sorts of small business enterprise.