BREAKING: Fox News Projects McCain Winning The Electoral College By 6 EV

[OneOfTheseDays]

I truly believe that if Obama gets elected he will do everything he can to marginalize Fox News.

Right now Democrats pretty much ignore Fox News. Everything I see from the Obama camp indicates to me that they want to take it to them for their lies and blatant biased coverage.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I truly believe that if Obama gets elected he will do everything he can to marginalize Fox News.

Right now Democrats pretty much ignore Fox News. Everything I see from the Obama camp indicates to me that they want to take it to them for their lies and blatant biased coverage.

qft

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I truly believe that if Obama gets elected he will do everything he can to marginalize Fox News.

Right now Democrats pretty much ignore Fox News. Everything I see from the Obama camp indicates to me that they want to take it to them for their lies and blatant biased coverage.

qft

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I truly believe that if Obama gets elected he will do everything he can to marginalize Fox News.

Right now Democrats pretty much ignore Fox News. Everything I see from the Obama camp indicates to me that they want to take it to them for their lies and blatant biased coverage.

Yah! Government deciding what is lies V truth in political broadcast! Thats so Americ....wait.....

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This type of fact fabrication is what will cause violence if McCain doesn't win. Fox should be held accountable.

There will be more violence if Obama doesn't win. Besides the tides are changing a little bit over the past week. Obama is down a little more each day.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Muse
May I inquire: WTF is Fox News? I don't subscribe to cable or satellite TV. That's a subscription TV service? I do have OTA TV and a Fox affiliate station. Is Fox News on that TV station too? Or is Fox News just an internet site?

Fox News is a 24/7 news channel that is only available on non-basic cable or satellite. All the big networks run one of these news channels.

The only all-news station on basic cable is CNN, and if you only have OTA TV, then you won't get any all-news stations at all. The only time you'll see Fox News people on OTA TV is when you're watching, say, a nationally televised debate, where they'll bring in analysts to talk about the debate afterward. Same with election coverage, presidential addresses, and other breaking national news.

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This type of fact fabrication is what will cause violence if McCain doesn't win. Fox should be held accountable.

There will be more violence if Obama doesn't win. Besides the tides are changing a little bit over the past week. Obama is down a little more each day.

I agree. A good number of McCain's supporters have already begun to accept that they'll probably lose. If they do lose, they won't be happy, but it's not unexpected.

If Obama loses, though, there will be widespread accusations of fraud, and I suspect there might be riots. It could get ugly.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: Muse
May I inquire: WTF is Fox News? I don't subscribe to cable or satellite TV. That's a subscription TV service? I do have OTA TV and a Fox affiliate station. Is Fox News on that TV station too? Or is Fox News just an internet site?

Fox News is a 24/7 news channel that is only available on non-basic cable or satellite. All the big networks run one of these news channels.

The only all-news station on basic cable is CNN, and if you only have OTA TV, then you won't get any all-news stations at all. The only time you'll see Fox News people on OTA TV is when you're watching, say, a nationally televised debate, where they'll bring in analysts to talk about the debate afterward. Same with election coverage, presidential addresses, and other breaking national news.

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
This type of fact fabrication is what will cause violence if McCain doesn't win. Fox should be held accountable.

There will be more violence if Obama doesn't win. Besides the tides are changing a little bit over the past week. Obama is down a little more each day.

I agree. A good number of McCain's supporters have already begun to accept that they'll probably lose. If they do lose, they won't be happy, but it's not unexpected.

If Obama loses, though, there will be widespread accusations of fraud, and I suspect there might be riots. It could get ugly.

Actually I think that is false. Even the people that I disagree with on this board are 500% more knowledgeable when it comes to politics than your average American.

We know Obama has landslide capability because we know what the Electoral College is. Unfortunately, many Americans don't. All they see is what the dumbed-down MSM tells them, which is the national poll based on popular vote.

While Obama is clearly winning these polls as well, a couple polls have JM within the margin of error, or just outside.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Engineer

QFMFGDOMGBBQT! :shocked:

I actually went through and figured out exactly what those letters mean.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Fox News Electoral Map shows McCain solidly winning states like IN and NC, where polls show McCain +/- <1 point. On the other hand, states like OR, NM, IA, MI, MN, WI, NH, PA, and VA, where Obama leads by 5-20 points, are toss-ups.

I have McCain either winning by a slim margin or a tie at 269.

Everyone should know by know after the two past cycles you cannot trust Polls.

You're the idiot who after being told your EV prediction actually had Obama winning, arbitrarily gave McCain New Mexico to keep your end result the same. We should resurrect that thread so you can climb back in your hole.

He puts that in place so if McCain wins he can do his "I told you so" pussy shit he always does, or if Obama wins then he just says "Yeah down with reps" it's an attempt to be win-win for him. But in the end he always loses.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Fox News Electoral Map shows McCain solidly winning states like IN and NC, where polls show McCain +/- <1 point. On the other hand, states like OR, NM, IA, MI, MN, WI, NH, PA, and VA, where Obama leads by 5-20 points, are toss-ups.

I have McCain either winning by a slim margin or a tie at 269.

Everyone should know by know after the two past cycles you cannot trust Polls.

QFMFGDOMGBBQT! :shocked:


By the way, RCP just updated for Obama from 306 to 311 with "leaners" in there. The average is going the wrong way vs Fox.

And pollster.com also has Obama with 311, of which 272 are "strong." In other words, pollster.com says it's all over.

 

[LS8]

Well the media called it wrong in 2000 and in 2004. Let's see if they can pull a hat trick!

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: LS8
Well the media called it wrong in 2000 and in 2004. Let's see if they can pull a hat trick!

I can see you're a strong, unwavering supporter of your candidate.

 

[LS8]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: LS8
Well the media called it wrong in 2000 and in 2004. Let's see if they can pull a hat trick!

I can see you're a strong, unwavering supporter of your candidate.

I don't have a specific candidate, I don't support McCain or Obama.

I can see you are an idiot though.

Nice try at spinning my statement though, I'll say it again.

Well the media called it wrong in 2000 and in 2004. Let's see if they can pull a hat trick!

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
-snip-
The only way this is based in reality is if Fox is basing it's prediction on how Fox viewers are likely to vote.

Umm, no.

I recently posted a thread on how polling firms adjust their raw results.

It;'s the adjustments (assumptions) that they use. In this case. it's likely the following:

Overall tightening of the race.

Undecided Voters - Which way the undecided voters with swing can ahve a large impact. Some assume they'l break for Obama, others not. Those pollsters showing better results for McCain are assuming that the undecided voters who haven't settled on Obama by now are not going to on election day (by a fairly wide margin). In the past, late undecideds have broken for the candidate in McCain's position.

I've also heard the demographics of the undecideds include a lot of rural, down-scale white voters, many of these heavily voted GWB in '04 & '00. Again, if they haven't gotten comfortable with Obama yet, these pollsters are expecting them to go with McCain.

Turn-out. High Dem turnout in general, and young/black voters specifically, is expected. However, some pollsters are forcasting high turnout all across the board, this has the effet of diliuting the others' high turnout.

I have no idea if this is wishfull thinking on their part, (or if there is wishfull thinking on the part of those forcasting a big win for Obama).

I'll be watching North Carolina because they will be an early reporting state (all parts in the EST zone), if it goes Obama I consider McCain toast.

Fern

Well, I was mostly joking ... mostly. But okay, Fern, tell me what adjustments/assumptions Fox is using in this case?

 

[RaistlinZ]

Fox is so Republican biased it's silly. They have MICHIGAN as a toss-up state! LMFAO. :laugh:

I seriously can't wait for the Republican crash and burn on election day. I will literally spend the next four years pointing and laughing at every Republican I pass on the street.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: LS8
I don't have a specific candidate, I don't support McCain

No, but you do stump for him on forums.

But I see why a rat would flee a sinking ship.

 

[LS8]

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Fox is so Republican biased it's silly. They have MICHIGAN as a toss-up state! LMFAO. :laugh:

I seriously can't wait for the Republican crash and burn on election day. I will literally spend the next four years pointing and laughing at every Republican I pass on the street.

Well, I guess turnabout is fair play since the Republicans have been doing that to Democrats since 2000.

 

[LS8]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: LS8
I don't have a specific candidate, I don't support McCain

No, but you do stump for him on forums.

But I see why a rat would flee a sinking ship.

You know, there is a reason no one around here takes you seriously (Democrat, Republican or otherwise) and laughs at you whenever you post. I think I understand why now and will ignore you from here on out.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: LS8
Well, I guess turnabout is fair play since the Republicans have been doing that to Democrats since 2000.

True, but the world has been laughing at Republicans since Dubya took the reins.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
-snip-

Well, I was mostly joking ... mostly. But okay, Fern, tell me what adjustments/assumptions Fox is using in this case?

I thought I just did (in my post you quoted).

While I do not claim to know precisely what adjustmenst/assumption Fox made in their specific poll, those that I mention came from an interview with a polltser on one of the netwroks earlier today. I.e., they were discusing why that pollster showed better standing for McCain than most others; difference in overall turnout and assumption about which way the undecided will break were the biggest differences he mentioned (larger turnout than other pollsters forcast thus diluting the effect of college age, new registrants and black voters to a smaller % than other polls, and demographics of undecided indicating more breaking for McCain than others think)

If you'll read my earlier thread, you'll find that some polls use far more adjustments than others (e,g., citizens versus registered voters versus likely voters). More adjustments = different results.

Edit: Link to explanation of poll differences & adjustments/assumptions used. Ignore my remarks and just look at the article quoted

Fern

 

[sportage]

Lets play predictions...If you want.
I predict early in the evening on the 4th, when the first results come in,
Obama will off the bat win a solid red state not thought to be in play.
Media will be shocked. Writing on the wall for Mccain.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: sportage
Lets play predictions...If you want.
I predict early in the evening on the 4th, when the first results come in,
Obama will off the bat win a solid red state not thought to be in play.
Media will be shocked. Writing on the wall for Mccain.

Unless we're looking at different electoral maps (mine's here), the only state you could possibly be referring to is South Carolina?

Fern

 

[uclaLabrat]

I'm betting georgia. It's the closest of the red states where a huge AA turnout would shift it.

 

[conehead433]

This is the funniest thread title I've ever seen.

 

[Red Dawn]

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