Brainwashing Camp for Gay Kids

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I said those with the 'godhatesfa*s' signs are heretics. I am Catholic. I do not believe God hates anyone. I do not hate anyone. I said *if* the parents hated the child, they would abandon or kill him. The parents have done neither, but instead are helping him.

I bear no ill-will toward homosexuals. I want to help them either become straight, or help them have the strength to remain chaste. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Ill stop putting words in your mouth the day you stop calling male and femaile relationships "gay", and when you start learning that everyone does not believe the same things you do. More importantsly that these diffrences are OK.

Except lust is a sin. Sinners must purge themselves of sins before they can enter paradise. It is not 'OK', infact it is very dangerous.

Will you at least agree it is ok for people that do not believe in god to view the world however they please?
Before the bible there were other books that stated people had walked with gods. Christianity is just the newest form of western based religion. Did you know that the bible was compiled by a known pagan? If christmas is for Jebus birth, why considering he was born in a diffrent month?
Can you answer these questions for me?

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud

So when you say you're a preacher... you mean that you're a priest?

No, deacon. I went to seminary but have not been ordained as priest.

Originally posted by: robertcloud a few posts back

I am a very successful preacher actually.

you have some hail marys to say..that would be a public lie...

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points. Is it?

are you talking to me? read the post again...

You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: robertcloud


You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

nice try, the formatting is screwed with by your post but if you scroll back the lie is in plain sight. you are not a preacher...nor are you a priest.

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud


You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

nice try, the formatting is screwed with by your post but if you scroll back the lie is in plain sight. you are not a preacher...nor are you a priest.

Priest no. Preacher yes. Those drugs are really getting to you, yes?

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

What about my questions?

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

Well, I'm wondering, if it's okay to have sex with your wife even if conception is impossible, why is it wrong to have sex with a member of the opposite sex if both love each other? I'd also like to know, given the "artificial elements" argument, which parts of the body are considered artificial? And where in the Bible it is described which specific parts are artificial?

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

Well, I'm wondering, if it's okay to have sex with your wife even if conception is impossible, why is it wrong to have sex with a member of the opposite sex if both love each other? I'd also like to know, given the "artificial elements" argument, which parts of the body are considered artificial? And where in the Bible it is described which specific parts are artificial?

I think he means condoms and so such.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud


You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

nice try, the formatting is screwed with by your post but if you scroll back the lie is in plain sight. you are not a preacher...nor are you a priest.

Priest no. Preacher yes. Those drugs are really getting to you, yes?

ahh so what exactly are you...deacon now is your current claim.

but wait..you are a preacher again....

BTW, If I was high I wouldn't waste my time on you.

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

Well, I'm wondering, if it's okay to have sex with your wife even if conception is impossible, why is it wrong to have sex with a member of the opposite sex if both love each other? I'd also like to know, given the "artificial elements" argument, which parts of the body are considered artificial? And where in the Bible it is described which specific parts are artificial?

Anything which makes conception impossible. The pill, condoms, etc.

1)
Will you at least agree it is ok for people that do not believe in god to view the world however they please?

2)Before the bible there were other books that stated people had walked with gods. Christianity is just the newest form of western based religion.

3)
Did you know that the bible was compiled by a known pagan? If christmas is for Jebus birth, why considering he was born in a diffrent month?

1) People can 'view the world' how they like. It is my role to save them from damnation.
2)Yes I am aware of the first point, whatever on the second.
3) No it wasn't. I don't know.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud


You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

nice try, the formatting is screwed with by your post but if you scroll back the lie is in plain sight. you are not a preacher...nor are you a priest.

Priest no. Preacher yes. Those drugs are really getting to you, yes?

ahh so what exactly are you...deacon now is your current claim.

but wait..you are a preacher again....

BTW, If I was high I wouldn't waste my time on you.

LoL that was great.
Rob im waiting for my questions to be answerd please.

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: robertcloud


You should read your own quotation. I think you pwn3d yourself.

nice try, the formatting is screwed with by your post but if you scroll back the lie is in plain sight. you are not a preacher...nor are you a priest.

Priest no. Preacher yes. Those drugs are really getting to you, yes?

ahh so what exactly are you...deacon now is your current claim.

but wait..you are a preacher again....

BTW, If I was high I wouldn't waste my time on you.

Are you stupid? Deacons are laity who preach.

 

[Last Rezort]

Constantine was a pagan. Whoops.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase
Well, I'm wondering, if it's okay to have sex with your wife even if conception is impossible, why is it wrong to have sex with a member of the opposite sex if both love each other? I'd also like to know, given the "artificial elements" argument, which parts of the body are considered artificial? And where in the Bible it is described which specific parts are artificial?

Anything which makes conception impossible. The pill, condoms, etc.

So now the question is, what is lust? You said earlier in this thread that homosexuality was not okay because lust is a sin. So I'm wondering how having sex with your pregnant wife, who is at the time unable to conceive, is any different from having sex with someone of the same gender if you are both in love?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Legend

If he doesn't repent and ask for forgiveness for his sins, he will be facing more than mental torture.

I'm sorry but I don't believe in your twisted view of religion. And again his parents don't have a right to enforce their views onto him with mental torture with the excuse of god fearing.

Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean that you are immune from the eternal torture that awaits your soul.

LOL. Want to take bets on who burns in hell first? Those who assume to speak for God and His will will be at the very front of the line. You might even be able to take cuts all the way to the front.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: robertcloud
If he is genuinely homosexual, then I would hold him to the same standards I hold heterosexual people to. Chastity until marriage, but in his case, chastity for life, unless he takes a wife.

Reversing roles for a second,

How would you feel if a gay person told you no sex unless it's with another man?

If such was the will of God, I would remain a virgin until I die.

Originally posted by: robertcloud
Yes, I do. I have learned about homosexuality from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I know why there are homosexuals, and I know how to deal with them. Do you have a clue what you are talking about?

Yes, learn about a group from a another group that doesn't like them! What a fair and unbiased source of information! This makes you the grand master of all knowledge about this group of people.

Out of curiosity, based upon what you have learned, why are they homosexual?

They are homosexual because they are misguided.

God gave us free will, and as man is inperfect, free will has led to murderers, rapists, and homosexuals. But all of them can be saved.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Are you stupid? Deacons are laity who preach.

ok mr.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
No, consumation of love with one's wife is a noble thing. It is a sin to make use of artificial elements which make conception impossible.

So... how about having sex with your pregnant wife?

Perfectly fine. Any more questions?

Well, I'm wondering, if it's okay to have sex with your wife even if conception is impossible, why is it wrong to have sex with a member of the opposite sex if both love each other? I'd also like to know, given the "artificial elements" argument, which parts of the body are considered artificial? And where in the Bible it is described which specific parts are artificial?

Anything which makes conception impossible. The pill, condoms, etc.

1)
Will you at least agree it is ok for people that do not believe in god to view the world however they please?

2)Before the bible there were other books that stated people had walked with gods. Christianity is just the newest form of western based religion.

3)
Did you know that the bible was compiled by a known pagan? If christmas is for Jebus birth, why considering he was born in a diffrent month?

1) People can 'view the world' how they like. It is my role to save them from damnation.
2)Yes I am aware of the first point, whatever on the second.
3) No it wasn't. I don't know.

What i mean by the seccond is that you have no proof that the bible is in any way more right then any of thoughs books do you. Using logic, there is no real reason to believe one over the other besides prefrence.
3)Constantine was a pagon.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
ahh so you'd rather dance around the word hate and just resign them to be evil if they do what is a natural part of human life.

yep, your a catholic alright....

I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

So when you say you're a preacher... you mean that you're a priest?

No, deacon. I went to seminary but have not been ordained as priest.

Well let's hope the archdiocese of your area doesn't make the fatal mistake of allowing a hate monger such as yourself into the priesthood.

 

[robertcloud]

Constantine did not compile the bible.

Well let's hope the archdiocese of your area doesn't make the fatal mistake of allowing a hate monger such as yourself into the priesthood.

I don't really care if they do. I have nearly all the powers, and I am making quite a sum of money in my current position as the only deacon.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I don't really care if they do. I have nearly all the powers, and I am making quite a sum of money in my current position as the only deacon.

You sound like a complete charlatan.

 

[robertcloud]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I don't really care if they do. I have nearly all the powers, and I am making quite a sum of money in my current position as the only deacon.

You sound like a complete charlatan.

I have taken on the responsibility of caring for the salvation of a great number of people. It is only fitting that God reward me for my work.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: robertcloud

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I don't really care if they do. I have nearly all the powers, and I am making quite a sum of money in my current position as the only deacon.

You sound like a complete charlatan.

It is only fitting that God reward me for my work.

LOL, what does God owe you again? You are a such a fraud it is funny. Do a little research before you internet personna goes off making a bigger ass of itself than it did in this post. You are plonked for life shill.

 

[Legend]

Religious leaders are not supposed to value material possessions.

If this guy's real, just reinforces that these morons only act on fear or rewards. Some people can be moral without fear of consequence or desire for reward.