Brainwashing Camp for Gay Kids

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: zendari
but learn to hate the fundamental morals and ideals that I think my god thinks all people should have.

fixed for truth

 

[robertcloud]

I agree, it is really sick and sad what the queers are doing to the schools in this country.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: NINaudio

Originally posted by: newParadime

I just find it ironic that you mention teaching Darwinism/Natural Selection in a post about homeosexuality, whcich would be eliminated be naturaly selection (gay people don't have kids, no more gay people).

~new

By your own argument then, there would be no genetic basis for homosexuality, as it would be bred out of the species.

I brought it up because it is another thing that religious fanatics don't like being taught in school.

I guess you're right. Plz disregard my second post.

 

[NINaudio]

Originally posted by: zendari

Save Our Schools From Being Terrorized By Gays

That article is a joke.

For those who don't even want to click the link, they ask why "Homosexual clubs" are allowed in some middle and high schools, but why not tattoo, nudist, Marlboro, drag racing, diet pills, or pornography clubs? Well, maybe because the other things they're asking about are things that are illegal for kids of middle and high school age to be doing/have. Tattoos? Most states require you to be 18, or 16 with a parent's permission. Marlboro's? Again, you have to be 18. Drag racing? On the street it's illegal no matter what your age. Pornography? Again, if you're not 18 you are not legally allowed to have/view it. As far as I know it is not illegal for a man to like another man, nor for a woman to like another woman. Hell, the article forgot to ask about a narcotics club! I pretty much stopped reading and just sort of glanced at the rest of the article after that opening.

Seriously, why don't you focus your energies on something more important, like fighting drug use among children. That is a much more dangerous thing to anyone and everyone than whether or not a "gay club" should be allowed at school. Or maybe try to teach the children about safe sex so we don't have 12 or 13 year old kids having babies because the school taught "abstinence" and not "use a condom".

 

[Legend]

"Tolerance", yup, that the ACLU forces all kids to attend and participate in gay workshops. Must be their way to turn our children into submissive queers and not only go against, but learn to hate the fundamental morals and ideals that all people should have.

Save Our Schools From Being Terrorized By Gays

You believe this crap? No wonder you're so deluded. This is hilarious. I can't believe people can be so stupid these days.

Hey, guess what. You're a terrorist. My dog told me. Yeah, it must be true.

I'm not going to reply to you or robert or rip. You people are so twisted, that I doubt you'll ever change for the better. Learn to think and get some morals.

To real Christians, I realize that you're nothing like this. I have many Christian friends, and they are great people.

These people are scum.

 

[Pneumothorax]

Originally posted by:
Riprorin
Have I ever been to public school? Yes, from K - 3 grade. My parents pulled me out because I had an abusive, alcoholic teacher who was drunk during the school day and the principle couldn't/wouldn't do anything about it. I didn't go to public school after the third grade and my kids go to parochial school.

Originally posted by: Legend
Well the public school thing is more like grades 6-12.

Nice. "Christian" school is where some of my classmates were molested by one of the teachers. I'd rather have a drunk teacher yelling profanities than one trying to cop a feel.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: newParadime

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: newParadime
well.. it is a sin to be gay.

~new

Oh, you crafty devil, we aren't falling for that one again!

Christianity is not meant for everyone, if its not for you, then by all means go ahead and be gay.

~new

::EDIT::

I wasn';t saying that in spite, nor was it directed at you (the go ahead and be gay part)

No it is ment for everyone. Hence the, you're going to hell if you dont repent and believe in god.

 

[thecrecarc]

frankly, i dont really... ahem cough apporve cough of being gay. however, they cant help it and i dotn blame them. HTIS CAMP IS HORRIBLE AND EVIL! BURN IT!

 

[robertcloud]

They can't help being attracted to other men, but they can control their lusts. Evidently the parents of this boy found him sticking it, or having it stuck into his nether-regions. They are trying to straighten him out. Being of homosexual inclination is not a sin; it is doing the homosexual do that is.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I agree, it is really sick and sad what the fundumbmentalist are doing to the schools in this country.

Fixed for ya fake Godboi.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: zendari
The desire for male anatomy may be chosen on a more subconscious level, but like all desires it can be overcome. And those who do are heroes. :thumbsup:

Why is "choice" such a big issue with you and your ilk? You know this is an intellecutal subterfuge.

What? You don't think so?

Question: If it were proven to your satisfaction that homosexuals did not make a "choice" and that homosexuality were absolutely NOT a mental illness, would you THEN wholeheartedly accept gays, consider them completely normal, accept same-sex marriage, and not label their sexual behavior a sin?

I thought not. So let's drop the "choice" nonsense and get down to what's really going on here:

You have a religious belief, and that belief tells you that homosexuality is a sin. Period. It has nothing to do with psychology, science, or any other objective, demonstrable truth. As much as you'd like to prop up your "truth" with pseudo-scientific arguments, it is all religion and faith for you.

Now, practice saying what you REALLY believe:

"My religion tells me that homosexuality is a sin. I don't care if other religions disagree. My religion is what matters to me. And therefore I think society should make laws that are in accordance with my religious views with respect to homosexuality. And parents should treat their homosexual children as though they are mentally ill, even if they are not actually mentally ill."

Great post.
This is not about their lives, because they are hurting no one but themselves with the way they live their lives. If christianity is not for everyone, then try to force it on everyone? If it's not a matter of converting these people, why even bother?
If you can prove to me that they are hurting themselves or others then maybe I'll give you godies a chance, otherwise shut up.

We know your views, we understand where you get your reasoning from, but do parents get to force their dogma on their kids? I know that as his parents they have responsibility over his physical and mental well being, but im not sure this constitutes. He is obviously not for this, and believes that what he is doing is right. Does he not get a say?

This is a clear cut and dry issue of does he get to choose his own religion. My question is why shouldnt he be able to?

 

[zendari]

There are a lot of things we don't allow minors to choose, let alone whether or not he goes to summer camp.

 

[Legend]

Okay, this is the last reply.

Evidently the parents of this boy found him sticking it, or having it stuck into his nether-regions.

Evidently you're a sick bastard. There is nothing to even give the slightest hint that his parents walked in on him.

His blog says he told his parents two weeks before school ended. They cried and pretended everything was fine until school ended. Then they started these misguided evil deeds.

Once again you're wrong. You're wrong about this, and you're wrong about human rights.

You're a very perverted, greedy man. You're animating someone you don't even know as a sexual monster. You seek monetary rewards from your church for your "services." There is absolutely no way you could have any significant role in catholicism.

Someone please ban this fraud.

There are a lot of things we don't allow minors to choose, let alone whether or not he goes to summer camp.

What summer camp? This isn't summer camp. How about using that brain of yours?

 

[jds2006]

OMG Just let the gay people be geeeez

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: zendari
People don't want their kids taught how to be gay, and that its right to be gay, and that he/she should want to be gay.....theres more than enough of that going on elsewhere in the world and the media.

It must be the new fad, kind of like Britney Spears a few years ago. It'll pass in time I suppose.

School do NOT teach kids HOW to be guy
School do NOT teach kids that it's RIGHT to be gay
School do NOT teach kids that they should WANT to be gay
School do teach kids that gay people are people and should be respected as such.

It's not possible to catch "the gay". Educating people that there are infact homosexuals in the world is not going to bring fire and brimstone down upon the Earth.

Nobody is forcing you to accept gays. All we're asking is that you tolerate them and leave them alone.

Originally posted by: zendari
Parents aren't teaching in schools, merely trying to sheild their children.

You can't shield children from the truth that there are homosexual people in the world for the rest of their lives.

Originally posted by: robertcloud

It is backwards to want your kids to be straight?

It's backwards to force your kids to be straight.

Originally posted by: robertcloud
Evidently the parents of this boy found him sticking it, or having it stuck into his nether-regions.

Where, ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THE ABOVE LINKS, does it even remotely suggest that?

 

[eilute]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I was once a summer camp counselor. There were always a few kids who weren't having fun and didn't seem to enjoy that. So everyone else made a special effort to help them out. The kid is lucky his parents care so much about him that they want to help. I don't really know why everyone is up in arms unless the rest of y'all are queers.

His parents blame and shame him. Regardless of whether they care about him, they are pushing him into a suicidal/homicidal state of mind in an attempt to cure something that will remain incurable far far into the future. It may very well never be cured. What is the use in ostracizing these people?

 

[eilute]

I'd bet most homosexual do not even consider them selves to have a desease. ON ecould definitely make a strong case for that.

Might point is that a lot of homosexuals have it rough, and they deserve not to be harrassed, assaulted, and forced into concentration camps.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: zendari
There are a lot of things we don't allow minors to choose, let alone whether or not he goes to summer camp.

First off who is we, seccond my main question was not adressed.
Does he have the right to choose his own religion?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: eilute

Originally posted by: Legend

"Mentally tortured"? Give me a break.

Did your parents let you do whatever you wanted?

The kid said their actions are making him suicidal. Previous clients have said so. That's mental torture. If it's not, the what the is?

It may very well be that the camp thinks it is better to have suicidal thoughts than homosexual ones.

I am quite certain that some parents would rather have a dead child than a gay child.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I was once a summer camp counselor. There were always a few kids who weren't having fun and didn't seem to enjoy that. So everyone else made a special effort to help them out. The kid is lucky his parents care so much about him that they want to help. I don't really know why everyone is up in arms unless the rest of y'all are queers.

Your use of "queers" as an abusive term is offensive, and it is consistent with the suggestion that you do hate or have contempt for gay people.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: ariafrost

Originally posted by: Riprorin
A new study which analyzed tens of thousands of gay obituaries and compared them with AIDS deaths data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), has shown that the life expectancy for homosexuals is about twenty years shorter than that of the general public. The study, entitled ?Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS?, has been published in Psychological Reports (2005;96:693-697).

Yet Another Study Confirms Gay Life Expectancy 20 Years Shorter

Yet another reason not to be homosexual. But if they want to be homosexual, that's fine with me as long as they don't publicly declare it, show it, or otherwise publicize it. If they keep on saying sexual orientation is a private matter, then KEEP IT THAT WAY AND STAY THE HECK OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT. That might help their cause.

Lol, that study uses data taken during the height of the HIV/ AIDS epidemic, when there were no effective treatments available and people were dying like flies. It's pretty stupid thinking that that life expectancy data can be extrapolated to gay people living in first world countries in 2005.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: newParadime
I just find it ironic that you mention teaching Darwinism/Natural Selection in a post about homeosexuality, whcich would be eliminated be naturaly selection (gay people don't have kids, no more gay people).

Most gay people are born to heterosexual parents, you idiot.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
They can't help being attracted to other men, but they can control their lusts. Evidently the parents of this boy found him sticking it, or having it stuck into his nether-regions. They are trying to straighten him out. Being of homosexual inclination is not a sin; it is doing the homosexual do that is.

no, the kid chose to come out to his parents about his gay sexual identity. Obviously that was a mistake. My advice to any gay teenager would be to consider postponing coming out to their parents until they are 18 years old, and not financially dependent on their parents for a place to live. Or at least try and suss out what kinds of attitudes their parents have towards gays before coming out to them.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: robertcloud
I agree, it is really sick and sad what the queers are doing to the schools in this country.

I think it's really sick and sad what self-righteous bigots like you are doing to the gays in this country.

 

[aidanjm]

It is shocking to see the lack of compassion coming from the christian right wing in this thread. where is the compassion?