MBrown
Diamond Member
what do you think about this. I didn't know to post this in the garage or P&N.
BTW I am not boycotting the new GM.
BTW I am not boycotting the new GM.
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Boycotting the new GM.
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zerocool84
Lifer
Definitely P&N
Mermaidman
Diamond Member
Why do the right-wingers want the US to fail? It'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I wouldn't be surprised when they do something extreme against Obama.
I wouldn't be surprised when they do something extreme against Obama.
CrackRabbit
Lifer
I can understand the sentiment behind wanting to boycott what some view as socialism, but the WHARGARBL coming from the extreme right is just silly.
A healthy GM is good for the US, and the faster we can get GM to be healthy again the better it is for everyone.
A healthy GM is good for the US, and the faster we can get GM to be healthy again the better it is for everyone.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
It's no secret that Rush hates America as do all his idiot minions.
radioouman
Diamond Member
People have been boycotting GM for years. "I had one bad experience with a GM, I am going Toyota next time. I'll never buy GM again."
Could you imagine if people treated Walmart or McDonalds like they treat GM? One bad experience at Walmart or one bad experience at McDonalds and they would never go back. What if someone treated their credit cards or their mortgage company like they treat GM? One bad experience and you go somewhere else.
Could you imagine if people treated Walmart or McDonalds like they treat GM? One bad experience at Walmart or one bad experience at McDonalds and they would never go back. What if someone treated their credit cards or their mortgage company like they treat GM? One bad experience and you go somewhere else.
HannibalX
Diamond Member
A large chunk of American car buyers have been boycotting General Motors for the last thirty years or so which is why Honda and Toyota and to a smaller extend Nissan have been so successful in the US. That didn't stop GM from becoming the worlds largest car company though.
My view is that GM needs to reorganize on it's own without government help but of course that isn't going to happen. We were told by Mr. Obama & Mr. Bush that giving billions upon billions to GM was to needed keep them out of bankruptcy. Now, a few months later here we are with the Fed forcing GM into bankruptcy anyway. I think a lot of Americans look at this and are unhappy with the result and believe that what have spent and what we will be spending to keep GM going is going to be more than what we'll miss if GM were to break up on its own.
I think it's a little silly to try and label this a Democrat issue or a Republican issue. The real issue is that Washington blew a ton of cash and then blew a ton more buying into a failed automaker and will undoubtedly blow a ton more before this is all said and done - and the average American tax paying isn't getting anything for it.
My view is that GM needs to reorganize on it's own without government help but of course that isn't going to happen. We were told by Mr. Obama & Mr. Bush that giving billions upon billions to GM was to needed keep them out of bankruptcy. Now, a few months later here we are with the Fed forcing GM into bankruptcy anyway. I think a lot of Americans look at this and are unhappy with the result and believe that what have spent and what we will be spending to keep GM going is going to be more than what we'll miss if GM were to break up on its own.
I think it's a little silly to try and label this a Democrat issue or a Republican issue. The real issue is that Washington blew a ton of cash and then blew a ton more buying into a failed automaker and will undoubtedly blow a ton more before this is all said and done - and the average American tax paying isn't getting anything for it.
well one bad personal experience with GM may not do it (just like you said w/ walmart and mcdonalds; people are forgiving.) but most people think its more like one bad experience + 20 years of hearing about other people's bad experiences.
GM is an AMERICAN car company right? hence why they can use the 9/11 dead people to get sympathy to buy their cars. why dont they make bettre quality cars for us americans than for the rest of the world? F the rest of the world right? i think they should... they should make the highest quality cars for US in america, quality such as chevy matching lexus/acura/infinity, and caddilac beating all the luxury brands.
they need this kind of high quality turn aroud to gain back the trust of the 20 years of shitty cars. they need to hire laborers that are worth their money, not union workers who are paid more than they are worth. they need to give americans cheaper cars also. There are no importing fees or anything related to that for GM as opposed to the foreigns which may (or may not, i dont know. if not, then void this statement) need to pay any fees on top of just the manf. costs.
we are america right? we are the top in technology, we're better than the germans and japanese are innovating new technology, why isn't it implemented into the cars? why doesn't GM have cars to compete w/ the prius/insight? dont say because they suck, because the prius is rolling in some bucks for toyota and more importantly, getting toyota's name out on the road. why doesn't GM have cars that can park themselves? what about lane departure warning? what about speed sensing cruise control w/ 360 degrees sensors that warn when cars are near? Foreign cars have some of these technological advances that increase the quality of driving for their customers withing their basic models. u dont need to pay any "nasa technology fee + $10,000" for these items.
go ahead and bash me, tell me GM has been making good cars for the last 10 years. whats ur arguement? but they have the camaro!!! its 300hp v8! american muscle!!! cts-v!! omg m5 beater for $30k less and people are still more willing to buy an M5 for the better driving experience; as told by sales.
go ahead tear me apart, tell me GM is the best
GM is an AMERICAN car company right? hence why they can use the 9/11 dead people to get sympathy to buy their cars. why dont they make bettre quality cars for us americans than for the rest of the world? F the rest of the world right? i think they should... they should make the highest quality cars for US in america, quality such as chevy matching lexus/acura/infinity, and caddilac beating all the luxury brands.
they need this kind of high quality turn aroud to gain back the trust of the 20 years of shitty cars. they need to hire laborers that are worth their money, not union workers who are paid more than they are worth. they need to give americans cheaper cars also. There are no importing fees or anything related to that for GM as opposed to the foreigns which may (or may not, i dont know. if not, then void this statement) need to pay any fees on top of just the manf. costs.
we are america right? we are the top in technology, we're better than the germans and japanese are innovating new technology, why isn't it implemented into the cars? why doesn't GM have cars to compete w/ the prius/insight? dont say because they suck, because the prius is rolling in some bucks for toyota and more importantly, getting toyota's name out on the road. why doesn't GM have cars that can park themselves? what about lane departure warning? what about speed sensing cruise control w/ 360 degrees sensors that warn when cars are near? Foreign cars have some of these technological advances that increase the quality of driving for their customers withing their basic models. u dont need to pay any "nasa technology fee + $10,000" for these items.
go ahead and bash me, tell me GM has been making good cars for the last 10 years. whats ur arguement? but they have the camaro!!! its 300hp v8! american muscle!!! cts-v!! omg m5 beater for $30k less and people are still more willing to buy an M5 for the better driving experience; as told by sales.
go ahead tear me apart, tell me GM is the best
on another note, i didn't know that GM doesn't need to pay back the government for the borrowed money. it sucks that US the people paying GM have no say in whether they should be paying back the loans or not. after all Borrow/Loan = repayment right?
will GM be "repaying" us (the lenders of the money to them) by giving us some deep discounts on their models? or will they be pumping out the same usual cars w/ the same usual pricing? if so, then F that shit... what do u guys think?
will GM be "repaying" us (the lenders of the money to them) by giving us some deep discounts on their models? or will they be pumping out the same usual cars w/ the same usual pricing? if so, then F that shit... what do u guys think?
thescreensavers
Diamond Member
My dad had 3 GM vehicles all with issues,then in 91 got a Lexus and never went back for another GM product. Every time he had to replace parts in his GM vehicles he saw how crappy the parts were he was replacing. The new parts were substantially better.
PS: people about walmart bad experiences. Walmart is a store that you shop at, you can go there for 10 min and spend 2 dollars, were as a car you spend alot more and have it for a lot longer. Walmart may only be bad once and you never go there again. Were again as a car you have might be bad but thats with you for some years.
PS: people about walmart bad experiences. Walmart is a store that you shop at, you can go there for 10 min and spend 2 dollars, were as a car you spend alot more and have it for a lot longer. Walmart may only be bad once and you never go there again. Were again as a car you have might be bad but thats with you for some years.
yes i can imagine boycotting walmart and mcdonalds the SAME WAY AS GM if they screwed me for the same amount of money $25k. if walmart screwd me for that much money, yes i wouldn't go their either. would u go back? seems like you'd go back after GM screwed you for $25k (yes, just one case of $25,000, you'd be a moron to get screwed twice for $25k lol
1 answer 2 parts,
1. Radicals are committing a self fulfilling prophecy. Hurting America and watching it fail just to prove a point is no different than the goals of Al'Queda.
2. Why GM was bailed out
Cliffs
*This should not be about ideologies, it is not about you or me, it's time to get together and pull America back up as a nation. "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."
*TV commentators,pundits and even anchors on FoxNews and MSNBC are nothing more than opinion columns trying to present opinion and scare tactics as fact (CNN anchors are usually more neutral from what I see, Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper seem to have at least some journalistic integrity left)
*If you blindly disregard GM or Chrysler because of feelings and ideologies (without judging the quality of the cars), willingly sabotaging America, GTFO of my country. The Founding Fathers wouldn't have wanted you here either.
1. Radicals are committing a self fulfilling prophecy. Hurting America and watching it fail just to prove a point is no different than the goals of Al'Queda.
2. Why GM was bailed out
Cliffs
*This should not be about ideologies, it is not about you or me, it's time to get together and pull America back up as a nation. "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."
*TV commentators,pundits and even anchors on FoxNews and MSNBC are nothing more than opinion columns trying to present opinion and scare tactics as fact (CNN anchors are usually more neutral from what I see, Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper seem to have at least some journalistic integrity left)
*If you blindly disregard GM or Chrysler because of feelings and ideologies (without judging the quality of the cars), willingly sabotaging America, GTFO of my country. The Founding Fathers wouldn't have wanted you here either.
Blah blah blah GM bad, know what, if GM used American parts and not made in Mexico/ china junk their reliability would be much higher. Their engineers know this, and bitch about it nearly as much as we do. Having an STS caddy with the tranmission light on because of a failure of a part built in mexico worth $0.27 that costs $3000 to replace is just retarded (true story).
I do personally boycott Walmart and will not buy anything made in China if I can possibly avoid it. (Mc Donalds too for that matter).
I do personally boycott Walmart and will not buy anything made in China if I can possibly avoid it. (Mc Donalds too for that matter).
PricklyPete
Lifer
A ton of people on this Forum have already made regular statements like:
"I'm a Chevy fan, but I'm never going to buy a car from Guberment Motors".
"I'm a Chevy fan, but I'm never going to buy a car from Guberment Motors".
The right wingers are all about the self-fulfilling prophecy. They say Government doesn't work then proceed to staff it with incomptents - heckuva job, Brownie! Or they force the Government to pay full price for prescription drugs, then claim that Medicare has higher prices on drugs due to the inefficiency of Government.
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