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Boycott BP? Why?

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SP33Demon said:
To reiterate, the best way to hit these oil fcks in the balls is to get a car that plugs into the grid.
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Electric cars will not change things a bunch. You still have to replace diesel and jet fuel. I can't foresee an electric bulldozer , freight train run off battery power, or planes flying with electric engines. Not to mention all the other oil products like plastics.

It is like the echo nuts shouting 'get CFL or LED lighting it will save the planet' without considering the stuff required to make those products is more toxic than building more power plants.
 
Modelworks said:
Electric cars will not change things a bunch. You still have to replace diesel and jet fuel. I can't foresee an electric bulldozer , freight train run off battery power, or planes flying with electric engines. Not to mention all the other oil products like plastics.

It is like the echo nuts shouting 'get CFL or LED lighting it will save the planet' without considering the stuff required to make those products is more toxic than building more power plants.
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But... Nissan says it's Green, and EV's will end big oil!!!
 
eits said:
my gf said the same thing today... she was like "why is our government not stepping up to the plate for these slow bitches at bp and then just sending them the bill once it's all done?"

i don't think it quite works like that... otherwise i'm sure we would have done it.
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uh, BP is fronting the bill, are they not? Also, there's really no reason to want gov't or any other kind of task force try and solve this problem. The "experts" are within the industry.

A lot of the problem has to do with depending on decades-old technology and major lack of foresight when it comes to dealing with such disasters. There hasn't been much of an incentive in the industry to dump money into the kind of testing and development required to update these cleanup protocols, much less the unknown issues that have surrounded these deep sea projects. A lot of that is due to poor assumptions--the assumptions that there won't be a problem, that the numerous redundancies built into these machines will deal with any problem (of course, redundancies that are simply copies of a component with known flaws, are simply copies of flaws, with the same failure profile. so that doesn't really help.)

And how do you factor in problems that arise when two foreman from different companies are arguing over how to proceed on an imminent disaster, which seems to be the case?

As far as I understand it, though, the responsibility for this seems to fall as equally on Transocean as it does BP.
 
Modelworks said:
Electric cars will not change things a bunch. You still have to replace diesel and jet fuel. I can't foresee an electric bulldozer , freight train run off battery power, or planes flying with electric engines. Not to mention all the other oil products like plastics.

It is like the echo nuts shouting 'get CFL or LED lighting it will save the planet' without considering the stuff required to make those products is more toxic than building more power plants.
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don't forget the manufacturing plants that make EV vehicles and their heavy dependence on oil.
 
Patranus said:
Criminal charges for what?

Crimanal charges for the Obama administration who gaveBP a pass on environments and safety issues 10 days before the explosion?
Criminal charges for the employees of the MMS surfing pron, taking kickbacks, and being high on meth?
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All of the major de-regulation of the oil industry was pushed through in '06.

Now...I could be wrong...but it's a bit of a stretch to put that on Obama, don't you think?


Ah, never mind. No way IN HELL you'll be able to think about this rationally.
 
Once again I feel compelled to remind everyone that corporations like BP find it more cost effective to give money to politicians so they won't require that they actually do research and developement on oil containment than to actually do research and developement.

Campaign finance reform. Its the cure all for many things.
 
Locut0s said:
You think that's a serious post? I hope not.
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I've seen it seriously suggested by a number of people from different sources. These people seem to not understand the fact the one thing that is worse than massive amounts of leaking oil is massive amounts of leaking radioactive oil.
 
Modelworks said:
Electric cars will not change things a bunch. You still have to replace diesel and jet fuel. I can't foresee an electric bulldozer , freight train run off battery power, or planes flying with electric engines. Not to mention all the other oil products like plastics.

It is like the echo nuts shouting 'get CFL or LED lighting it will save the planet' without considering the stuff required to make those products is more toxic than building more power plants.
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Diesel and jet fuel replacements can be made from biofuels, the military has been working on this for the last few years with success.
 
Modelworks said:
Electric cars will not change things a bunch. You still have to replace diesel and jet fuel. I can't foresee an electric bulldozer , freight train run off battery power, or planes flying with electric engines. Not to mention all the other oil products like plastics.

It is like the echo nuts shouting 'get CFL or LED lighting it will save the planet' without considering the stuff required to make those products is more toxic than building more power plants.
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The above consumption rates are far smaller than cars.

Tons of trains run off of electricity.

I'd love for you to prove your last comment.
 
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Is it wrong if I LOL at this picture?

Fish can't breath oil!

(But they can make more of it! 😀)
 
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