By retards, you mean those people who believe that the police officer should put his life in danger by trying to hand combat a guy who just hit him with a broomstick over the head SEVERAL times and with enough force to break the broomstick and cause a concussion, then yes I agree. Cop or not, he's still human and when he feels that his life is in danger he has every right to try defend himself from someone who's charging at him with a sharp object.
By retards, you mean those people who believe that the police officer should put his life in danger by trying to hand combat a guy who just hit him with a broomstick over the head SEVERAL times and with enough force to break the broomstick and cause a concussion, then yes I agree. Cop or not, he's still human and when he feels that his life is in danger he has every right to try defend himself from someone who's charging at him with a sharp object.
Unheard
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As would I... Reminds me of the old saying, "I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
Didn't touch the cop? Wow the kid must of had magical powers to give a cop lacerations and a concussion w/o touching him. I hope the bastard kid rots in hell, where he deserves to be. And the mother should be tried for false testimony.
Talk about no-win scenario... the officer has to beat him down to submission to save himself from a stabbing, or shoot to defend.
"Police brutailty" in both cases. About the only way out of that scenario is to whip open his shirt and say, "stab away!"
"Police brutailty" in both cases. About the only way out of that scenario is to whip open his shirt and say, "stab away!"
Unfortunately that police officer is probably screwed, especially since he's still new. After macing the kid down and the kid still resisting the officer, IMO the officer did what he had to do. Shame the kid died, but you cannot blame the officer.
Yup, and you appear to be among the most retarded. Read the thread for fuller explanations of the real issues. Then go out and actually do this type of work before you think to make judgements on it.
If he was any kind of cop at all (or any other gun owner), he was just shooting center mass (and poorly at that). There is no such thing as shooting to kill or shooting to wound. You pull the weapon and fire center mass. Most departments train for two center-mass, follow up to the head, but in a fight it doesn't always go that way. Guns are there to kill, not wound, not scare.
Your an idiot... flat out..
sorry kid or not gonna get dropped you come at me with a wep.. thats what they are TRAINED to do.. and the guy picked his shot... he shot him in the damn shoulder..
he maced the kid and he kept on coming..
reading comprehension 4 the win..
he snapped the broomhandle over the cops head thereby breaking it into a sharp spear...
have you not ever tried this? a broken broomhandle makes a VERY good/strong weapon..
i have no doubt it would penetrate a vest just as well as a knife..
On a side note to this point, I've decided to make a video to show this to people. I'll show the lethality of a credit card, how a piece of paper can become a stabbing weapon, and if I can find an old vest I'll try a stab thru with various weapons. Once it's done I'll put it up and link it for peeps.
Powermoloch
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Read closer to the article, it said jagged edged broom handle, not a clean cut spear. In fact, we don't know how the broken broom handle look like.
SP33Demon
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Yes, anyone who makes a statement so stupid like that is just looking to get paid. Did the officer pull a "Fight Club"-esque scene by hitting himself over the head to corroborate his story? Forensics could easily expose this. This lady is insinuating that her son never touched the officer and her son was set up, which is a blatant lie. She's looking to get paid over the death of her son, the facts are the facts.
Deserve to die ... maybe not. However, death is a likly outcome when you attack someone who is highly trained in the use of a lethal weapon (which they also happen to carry at all times).
Unless there is a gross misrepresentation of the facts then the officer responded apropriately. The cop was already struck with a blow that could have caused serious harm or even death. Responding with excessuve force is the only way to ensure survival. I wish weould could be better as well, but this is what we have for now.
try this mr. wizard... go get a broom.. strike it agasint a blunt object.. watch how it breaks.. it will break and leave a jagged knife like edge... or better yet webster... go look up the word JAGGED in the god forsake dictionary.. the very meaning is sharp and uneven..
man nice self pwnage dork..
I slightly disagree.
If you are attacked, you have the right to defend yourself. If you are attacked with lethal force you are justified in using lethal force to defend yourself. The fact that you assailant may die is a regrettable result. However! I agree that it does NOT give you "the right to kill your assailant". I.E. You are not justified in dealing the person a "death blow" after incapacitating them. You do however need to stop the assault in whatever means are necessary.
eits
Lifer
me = knows that cops on call wear kevlar under their uniforms whenever they're on call... especially in a city like baltimore.
you = dumb enough to think that a 14 year old breaking a broom handle over an unsuspecting cop's head means that he's got the training and agility with a point stick to out-fight said cop who's trained in combat and disarming combatant people...
eits
Lifer
my uncle's a cop.
cops are trained to disarm and subdue unless whenever possible. that's why there are beanbag shotguns, tasers, and other things that stop people in their tracks. most cops in urban areas carry tazers with them at all times (depending on the city laws). baltimore is one of those cities. the cop didn't use his taser to subdue the kid. instead, he reacted poorly and killed the kid. he should be found guilty for wrongful death.... it's a no brainer.
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Just how much self defense training do you think the average street cop has?
Also, just how effective do you think that training would be against someone who doesn't respond to pepper spray at all?
I find it simply amazing that people here don't believe the cop had the right to defend his life.
eits
Lifer
are you joking? you don't think a baltimore cop would be trained in self-defense? you don't think they'd train cops how to deal with combative people who don't respond to pepper spray or are high on pcp or drunk?
christ, you're dense.
maybe they don't teach cops how to protect themselves in your backwoods villiage, but in a major city where there's plenty of crime daily, cops go through pretty extensive training.
waggy
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uhm considering the 14 already broke the broom handle over the cops head i think he had the training (how fvcking hard is it to stab someone with a sharp object? not hard at all) and agility to either seriously hurt or kill the cop.
oh and there is a big difrence between fighting someone un-armed (wich cops are trained in) and fighting someone with a weapon.
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