BOSE ? Crap...

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Ok, so if you get a $1000 Bose speaker system, what's that compare to? A $149 Logitech Z-2300 that can be found for $50 on SD? or a $300 Z-5500??
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: NFS4
My new Mazda 3s GT has a BOSE sound system and I think it sounds great.
Oh you poor soul. How much was that sound system?

BOSE car audio systems are not that bad. Note that one of the main problems with their HT systems is they go for style over quality. In the car systems that is not the case. Many audiophiles find their BOSE car systems not bad at all

As a non-audiophile and a former Nissan Maxima equipped with Blose owner, I can say that you are wrong.
 

Perknose

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Why is it that the Japanese have yet to make a really good speaker system?
 
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm sure all people who hate Microsoft and any other popular thing hate Bose too.

Hate is an awfully strong word. I'm sure most people consider themselves as being "preferential to other products" or perhaps simply "dissatisfied."

Dissatisfied with a popular thing because it makes them feel superior as they smugly roll their eyes because they think they know better than the rest of humanity.

Finally! I'm so tired of hearing how Intel, Apple (iPods), and Bose sucks.
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm sure all people who hate Microsoft and any other popular thing hate Bose too.

Hate is an awfully strong word. I'm sure most people consider themselves as being "preferential to other products" or perhaps simply "dissatisfied."

Dissatisfied with a popular thing because it makes them feel superior as they smugly roll their eyes because they think they know better than the rest of humanity.

Finally! I'm so tired of hearing how Intel, Apple (iPods), and Bose sucks.

It's funny because people that buy alternatives to bose almost always are better than the rest of humanity :)

If you bought bose I just assume you're an idiot. Much like if I invite a black guy to my house and he starts looking around, I assume he's looking for something to steal. Prejudice saves money.
 

Raduque

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I know this is old, but....

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

As to "2 gaps in frequency sweep" please describe in detail what you're referring to, and how you derived that conclusion. Feel free to use terms such as boomy, thin, tinny and avoid actual technical data.

Originally posted by :intellexual.net

The resulting numbers are always consistent. Here is a pretty credible one sourced from the August 1999 issue of Sound and Vision magazine...

  • SATELLITES | BASS MODULE
    Frequency Response 280 Hz to 13.3k Hz at ±10.5 dB | 46Hz to 202Hz at ±2.3 dB
    Sensitivity (SPL at 1 meter)* 85.1 dB | N/A
    Impedance (minimum/nominal) 5.3/8 ohms | N/A
    Bass Limits (-3/-6 dB) 280/220 Hz | 46/40 Hz

* measured with 2.8 volts of pink-noise input

To reiterate the above, the Acoustimass's bass module responds to 46 Hz to 202 Hz at ±2.3 dB, while the satellites respond to 280 Hz to 13.3 KHz at ±10.5 dB. This is, by the way, the only speaker that I have ever seen tested with a ±10.5 db allowance. Still, this leaves a frequency gap between the satellites and bass module of about 80 Hz! That is 80 hertz of sound that is completely erased within the system's internal crossovers! I wonder how Bose figured out which 80 hertz matters least in the audible spectrum? I will tell you though that that gap accounts for a HUGE loss in midrange sound, which is responsible for the majority contralto, baritone, and tenor vocals in music, and many sound effects in home theater. And let us not forget that the Acoustimass system also ignores audible signal from 20Hz to 45Hz on the low end (deep bass), and 13KHz to 20KHz on the high end (high treble). Do the math folks, this Bose system only produces 13,176 of the 19,980 Hertz in the audible sound spectrum. That's only ~66% of the actual recording being played back to you! Is this the kind of performance you'd expect from a $1300 product? Most speakers in the same price range are able to respond from 15 Hz to 25 Khz and all modern media formats, from vinyls to DVD, record these frequencies as well. Though these are peak frequencies that most humans can not hear, the pressure produced from 15 Hz and 25 KHz frequencies can be detected physiologically, and will in fact have an effect on the harmonics of the music you listen to. So why does this "industry-leading" Bose company only produce about 52% of the sound of it's equal-priced market competitors? Good question...



And for you car setup guys, my $150 piecemeal setup would easily blow away your bose in frequency response, spl and quality.


This forum software doesn't have enough text formatting tags. :frown:
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: NFS4
My new Mazda 3s GT has a BOSE sound system and I think it sounds great.
Oh you poor soul. How much was that sound system?

Factory sound systems may be tuned by BOSE, but I doubt that the system is actually manufactured by them.

I know for a fact that the "Infinity" stereo in my car was made by Alpine.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Gibson486
<----Bose employee:)

When you walk past a mirror... can you see your reflection? :p

Nah, I can't.;)

Truth be told, this is a great company to work for. I am just sad that they will probably not offer me a job when my co-op is up:(
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Well since this thread has been all over the place.... let me just be the 84th to say Bose sucks. After all, if they were REALLY the hot sh!t, they wouldn't need so damn much marketing as their reputation/word of mouth would have done the rest. Bose = brainwashers. Good speakers sell themselves.