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Borderlands 2 release date and preorder

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Aikouka said:
The pertinent details are i5-2500k and GeForce GTX 680.
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Hmmmm, I am running a dual Intel 3.4 with a Geforce 8800...
Nothing OC.... Maybe..... Its TIME LOL.

I was actually impressed with the settings the install picked
I would turn off AA in a heartbeat for a little action I see in some of those screenies on PhysX.

This Low is OFF bull. Why I HATE upgrading LOL..
Is a 560 OC faster than a 660 stock?

Is an AMD hex core 3400 the same as in i5 quad core 3200?

I am trying to get as MUCH as I can out of my present build. My LAST improvement, which I LOVE was WIN 7 and an SSD for my core programs.
That perked up a LOT of things.
Mozilla (on the SSD) FLIES.
I am SURE a new fresh install on ther SSD was a help compared to my old bastardized XP set-up.
I had more modified ini's and rogue Dll's than I care to count LOL.

I even tried to run a program (when I game which is OFTEN) called END IT ALL.
It worked WELL on 3.1. I never saw a bene in XP.

Gosh, I am old............................................
 
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lol an 8800. /points and laughs

oh wait. I have an 8800 gts in my main rig. haven't tested the game on that one yet, i've been running it on my laptop which is a i5-2450M with a 7670M video card. Unfortunately it doesnt run that great on it. I am having to turn pretty much everything down to the lowest setting and even then I might have to consider running at a lower resolution than my native 1600x900.

I think my next course of action is going to be upgrading my main rig's video card. Funny, I upgraded every other part of it just recently...so the gpu is an insane bottleneck to my i5-3570k =)
 
Aikouka said:
Let me just say that Anandtech's Bench tool is your friend. 😛

560 vs 660:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/543?vs=660



I'm not sure about this comparison, because I can't find an 8-core 3400. However, that many cores won't matter in Borderlands 2. Intel has had the IPC lead for quite awhile though.
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First off I was making stuff up (Data sets) so dont get too bogged down. My HEAD almost exploded in the spring when I was looking to upgrade my vid card. I was just making a point.

PS
Isnt Hex a six sided figure? So I think Hex is a 6 core...

I could be wrong, I was just making a point as to how confusing this world is but I think Microcenter has a nice sale going on a 6 core.

Back in the day it was 286. 386, 486.... pentium Which was briefly called a 586...

After that... the world went to HELL.

Its now UP to Ivy bridge vs the Bulldozer...

I will try that tool.
 
Update... that tool is pretty decent. I found OTHER things like that out there... But still, thanks. I do appreciate the help. Seems the 8800 MAY be showing its age.

I MAY just hit Microcenter this weekend. Depending upon how a medium PhysX looks. Dare I say............. Hi?

Have a great weekend all.

Shznit... OWIE LOL...
 
cytoSiN said:
Or you could skip the irrelevant side quests that you don't like and enjoy the story...as others have said, it's pretty easy to run past things you're not interested in if you don't feel like reclearing areas.
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True, but you have to do a certain number of side quests to get to a high enough level to progress in the game without getting killed incessantly.

Overall, contrary to most I guess, I think I preferred the first game. The second game seems just like more of the first, which is OK, but with my favorite class gimped and with less loot and constantly respawning enemies. I am level 10 or 11, and have not yet gotten corrosive or slag weapons.
 
looks like zero has very few health regen skills...kinda sucks. are there shields that will regenerate health?
 
vshah said:
looks like zero has very few health regen skills...kinda sucks. are there shields that will regenerate health?
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Not sure about shields, but there are class mods that add max health and health or shield regen. But for me, the best combo for my Zero build is one of the shields that lowers max health but substantially increases shield (and I have one that's also immune to fire damage, which is great), along with a class mod that increases max health and shield regen. I've also taken advantage of "Grim," the tier 2 talent in the bloodshed tree (even though my focus is the sniper tree) that quickly regens your shield and decreases deception's cooldown with every kill. Basically makes my health irrelevant...I rely on my shield and being invisible as often as possible to stay alive.
 
Is it me or BL2 feels a little tougher than the first one? I actually got killed fighting the robots outside trying to rescue Ronin. This is kinda new, in first Borderlands, I feel overpowered most of the time. Don't get me wrong I like it, it makes the FPS better than the last one.

Also what are you guys pointing point in for the Commando? seems all 3 trees has enhancements on the gun and on you. why they spread it out like that and not concentrate all gun related skills in one tree, and personal fighting skills on separate tree I don't know. I want to try out a turret build but also want the nuclear turret, seems they are all over the place for a pure turret build to work.
 
I thought BL1 was fairly challenging, at least when first starting out. Eventually, your skills and gear give you the power you'd expect to have at max, or near max, level.

I haven't played BL2 yet, so I can't comment on comparisons. I'm glad to hear that it's challenging, or even a little hard, though.
 
nyker96 said:
Also what are you guys pointing point in for the Commando? seems all 3 trees has enhancements on the gun and on you. why they spread it out like that and not concentrate all gun related skills in one tree, and personal fighting skills on separate tree I don't know. I want to try out a turret build but also want the nuclear turret, seems they are all over the place for a pure turret build to work.
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I worked it out this morning so that I could get rockets and a second turret, but unfortunately it doesn't look like you can get a turret with all the abilities. Otherwise, its a nuke turret, or turret with 2 guns, two turrets with one gun each. You have to really plan ahead. I guess you could get your 50 skill points, and respec a couple of times to find a combo that works. I figure rockets are the quickest and best upgrade I can get for the turret, although I think getting the second turret can be had for around the same amount of skill points, and could be just as useful. But the stuff that I already added to the turret on the way to rockets has already made it pretty deadly. It can kill two level 10 psycho marauders and a few level 7 regulars by itself, with plenty left on the timer.
 
Keeper said:
Isnt Hex a six sided figure? So I think Hex is a 6 core...
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Heh, yeah... I guess I'm not used to people talking about the 6-cores that I don't even think about 'em! 😛 Ultimately, you'll pay more for an Intel system, and it will perform better. Whether the extra money is worth the performance increase is really up to you. Either one should handle Borderlands 2 just fine.

As for the GPU, either go with a 660Ti or get a 670 when it's on sale. There have been a few sales with it down in the $350 range.
 
nyker96 said:
Is it me or BL2 feels a little tougher than the first one? I actually got killed fighting the robots outside trying to rescue Ronin. This is kinda new, in first Borderlands, I feel overpowered most of the time. Don't get me wrong I like it, it makes the FPS better than the last one.

Also what are you guys pointing point in for the Commando? seems all 3 trees has enhancements on the gun and on you. why they spread it out like that and not concentrate all gun related skills in one tree, and personal fighting skills on separate tree I don't know. I want to try out a turret build but also want the nuclear turret, seems they are all over the place for a pure turret build to work.
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I find it tougher than BL1 for sure

Not sure what kind of build people are using for Salvador but it has been pumping duration and lowering cooldown time on the Gunzerking skill all the way for me. That skill has been a huge life saver.

I actually went through a portion of the game dual wielding sniper rifles, worked pretty good.
 
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Childs said:
I worked it out this morning so that I could get rockets and a second turret, but unfortunately it doesn't look like you can get a turret with all the abilities. Otherwise, its a nuke turret, or turret with 2 guns, two turrets with one gun each. You have to really plan ahead. I guess you could get your 50 skill points, and respec a couple of times to find a combo that works. I figure rockets are the quickest and best upgrade I can get for the turret, although I think getting the second turret can be had for around the same amount of skill points, and could be just as useful. But the stuff that I already added to the turret on the way to rockets has already made it pretty deadly. It can kill two level 10 psycho marauders and a few level 7 regulars by itself, with plenty left on the timer.
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yes I got on the char planner earlier been playing w/ it for a bit, still can't seem to get a point allocation that max out the turret. It seems I have to choose either turrent w/ 2x guns or turret w/ 2 guns as you suggested. But I also wanna make my commando a real killer as well. so many skills I want but just not enough points to go around. gonna play with the tree more see if I can come out w/ a good compromise.

MetalMat said:
I find it tougher than BL1 for sure

Not sure what kind of build people are using for Salvador but it has been pumping duration and lowering cooldown time on the Gunzerking skill all the way for me. That skill has been a huge life saver.

I actually went through a portion of the game dual wielding sniper rifles, worked pretty good.
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I haven't tried salvador still playing commando, gonna try him out after I max out commando, sounds like lot of fun. I'm not complaining about the increased difficulty, I mean most of us played the first one so we all veterans by now, turning up the difficulty is right thing to do.
 
nyker96 said:
yes I got on the char planner earlier been playing w/ it for a bit, still can't seem to get a point allocation that max out the turret. It seems I have to choose either turrent w/ 2x guns or turret w/ 2 guns as you suggested. But I also wanna make my commando a real killer as well. so many skills I want but just not enough points to go around. gonna play with the tree more see if I can come out w/ a good compromise.
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I think this is what I'm going to do now:

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I didn't realize you just had to spend 5 points per level, not 5 in one skill. But this is pretty much what I want I think. I wish I could have rockets and x2, along with Steady from Gunpowder. There are some class mods that could make up the difference in some skills, so I might be able to push it Steady. I guess I have to see what my 20 bars of Eridium can buy.
 
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Childs said:
I didn't realize you just had to spend 5 points per level, not 5 in one skill.
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Actually, your total # of points spent in a single tree determines when specific tiers of the tree are unlocked. For example, you could spend 10 points in the first tier of a tree (maxing 2 skills), and (unlock) go directly to the third tier, completely bypassing the second. In case two level 1 skills are more appealing than taking something in the 2nd tier, you can do that, and unlock the third.
 
OCNewbie said:
Actually, your total # of points spent in a single tree determines when specific tiers of the tree are unlocked. For example, you could spend 10 points in the first tier of a tree (maxing 2 skills), and (unlock) go directly to the third tier, completely bypassing the second. In case two level 1 skills are more appealing than taking something in the 2nd tier, you can do that, and unlock the third.
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Do you have a source for this? Not that I don't believe you, but I can't seem to do it using the online skill calculator, and want to know what the deal is.

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I see what you are saying. Thanks, that might change things.
 
Childs said:
Do you have a source for this? Not that I don't believe you, but I can't seem to do it using the online skill calculator, and want to know what the deal is.

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I see what you are saying. Thanks, that might change things.
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Yes, you only need to spend 5 * (row - 1) points in a tree to access a talent on that row. It's pretty much the same as WoW, which makes it odd since you'd expect it to be more like Diablo.

I don't think Borderlands does a great job explaining that.
 
cytoSiN said:
Wow...now I see what I've been missing by leaving it on low. Here's a link to the comparison:

http://international.download.nvidi...a-geforce-borderlands-2-physx-comparison.html

Need to try it on high when I get home.
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Meh, try it for sure.

I had it on high for the first while.

I've since set it to low as honestly, the amount of crap spewing all over on the screen starts to look silly and is annoying.

I might go to medium as happy medium, hah.

My opinion of PhyX is still that's an unnecessary gimmick though...maybe when they stop making it so obnoxiously obvious i might tolerate it more.

OCNewbie said:
Actually, your total # of points spent in a single tree determines when specific tiers of the tree are unlocked. For example, you could spend 10 points in the first tier of a tree (maxing 2 skills), and (unlock) go directly to the third tier, completely bypassing the second. In case two level 1 skills are more appealing than taking something in the 2nd tier, you can do that, and unlock the third.
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Yup. You could do this in the first one too.
 
The Physx effects are definitely noticeable, and sometimes over the top. My desktop has an ATI card, and I played about 10 hours on that, then when I played it on my laptop, I realized there was more stuff flying around and realized it's because of Physx (the laptop has a GeForce 650M). It looks neat, but can be a bit much.
So far I'm loving BL2. I really enjoyed the first one, played through it and all the DLC (other than Moxxi) a few times. BL2 is very much the same, but better for sure.
 
Borderlands 2 - $24.99

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Please do not link to third party sites. If you're going to link, link to the actual site offering the item, which in this case aparently is not a good thing to do.
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OCNewbie said:
Borderlands 2 - $24.99
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Please, no links to grey market keys from shady websites. And before you say no it isn't. Yes, it is. It is a version of the game sold for a different region, not to be re-imported to the US. The site, by definition, is shady if it is doing this. Don't give your billing info to such sites folks.

By the way, the scenario that I have described is the *least* bad option of where these keys come from.
 
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