MrSquished
Lifer
Boeing just killed a motherfucker.
Fuck that company to all hell. Well, the C-suite at least. Fuck all those guys.
Fuck that company to all hell. Well, the C-suite at least. Fuck all those guys.
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[DHT]Osiris
Lifer
Sure looks like it.
Yeah he seems like someone that should have been on suicide watch. Undoubtedly.
Brainonska511
Lifer
Being a whistleblower is a lonely road. You're potentially setting your entire career on fire and taking steps that will isolate you completely from people you used to call colleagues. It's not surprising that someone could spiral into depression and kill themselves.
uallas5
Golden Member
Yesterday it was the Dreamliner's turn. A "technical problem" caused a Latam flight from Australia to New Zealand to suddenly lose altitude, 50 passengers and crew were injured. One of the pilot's reportedly told a passenger that all the controls "suddenly went dark."
www.nzherald.co.nz
One woman on the flight said she experienced a “quick little drop” during the flight.
“I used to be a flight attendant and this is the first time I’ve ever . . . the whole plane just froze,” she said.
www.yahoo.com
After the flight landed, passenger Brian Jokat told CNN that he spoke to the pilot, who he said told him: "My gauges just kind of went blank on me."
Jokat told CNN that he had been sleeping when the plane "dropped something to the effect of 500 feet instantly."
Opening his eyes, he said he saw "various individuals at the top of the plane. Just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor."
"And then I just realized I'm not in a movie, this is actually for real," he said.
'The plane just froze': 50 people injured after technical fault on flight to Auckland
More than 10 St John vehicles weare at the airport this afternoon.
One woman on the flight said she experienced a “quick little drop” during the flight.
“I used to be a flight attendant and this is the first time I’ve ever . . . the whole plane just froze,” she said.
A pilot on a Boeing plane that plummeted midair said his 'gauges just kind of went blank on me,' passenger says
A passenger on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner that plunged sharply said the pilot told him afterwards that he briefly lost control of the plane.
After the flight landed, passenger Brian Jokat told CNN that he spoke to the pilot, who he said told him: "My gauges just kind of went blank on me."
Jokat told CNN that he had been sleeping when the plane "dropped something to the effect of 500 feet instantly."
Opening his eyes, he said he saw "various individuals at the top of the plane. Just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor."
"And then I just realized I'm not in a movie, this is actually for real," he said.
MrSquished
Lifer
He literally just started giving his depositions, was in the midst of them really, and he was a whistleblower, means he did it willingly because he felt there was important, that really doesn't make any sense.
Brainonska511
Lifer
I don't have all the details of what happened to this person, but suicide isn't exactly a rational action either.
Puffnstuff
Lifer
I listened to a former pilot this morning on the news and he made a good point that all of the United planes with issues either originated or terminated at the same SF airport.
UNCjigga
Lifer
Sounds like a suicide to me but being a whistleblower can’t be easy—just imagine all the friends and greater community that could be impacted if the airline is forced to restructure or move manufacturing back to Seattle. I’m sure his emails/voicemails/social media weren’t always full of encouraging words.
hal2kilo
Lifer
Was never confident about anything anymore when we did away with discreet switches and relied on computer interrupts to detect the switch closures, then determine what switch was pressed. Also, can't stand modes redefining what a switch does. That's my personal experience working with 3 generations of systems.Yesterday it was the Dreamliner's turn. A "technical problem" caused a Latam flight from Australia to New Zealand to suddenly lose altitude, 50 passengers and crew were injured. One of the pilot's reportedly told a passenger that all the controls "suddenly went dark."
'The plane just froze': 50 people injured after technical fault on flight to Auckland
More than 10 St John vehicles weare at the airport this afternoon.
One woman on the flight said she experienced a “quick little drop” during the flight.
“I used to be a flight attendant and this is the first time I’ve ever . . . the whole plane just froze,” she said.
A pilot on a Boeing plane that plummeted midair said his 'gauges just kind of went blank on me,' passenger says
A passenger on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner that plunged sharply said the pilot told him afterwards that he briefly lost control of the plane.
After the flight landed, passenger Brian Jokat told CNN that he spoke to the pilot, who he said told him: "My gauges just kind of went blank on me."
Jokat told CNN that he had been sleeping when the plane "dropped something to the effect of 500 feet instantly."
Opening his eyes, he said he saw "various individuals at the top of the plane. Just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor."
"And then I just realized I'm not in a movie, this is actually for real," he said.
Indus
Lifer
Yesterday it was the Dreamliner's turn. A "technical problem" caused a Latam flight from Australia to New Zealand to suddenly lose altitude, 50 passengers and crew were injured. One of the pilot's reportedly told a passenger that all the controls "suddenly went dark."
'The plane just froze': 50 people injured after technical fault on flight to Auckland
More than 10 St John vehicles weare at the airport this afternoon.
One woman on the flight said she experienced a “quick little drop” during the flight.
“I used to be a flight attendant and this is the first time I’ve ever . . . the whole plane just froze,” she said.
A pilot on a Boeing plane that plummeted midair said his 'gauges just kind of went blank on me,' passenger says
A passenger on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner that plunged sharply said the pilot told him afterwards that he briefly lost control of the plane.
After the flight landed, passenger Brian Jokat told CNN that he spoke to the pilot, who he said told him: "My gauges just kind of went blank on me."
Jokat told CNN that he had been sleeping when the plane "dropped something to the effect of 500 feet instantly."
Opening his eyes, he said he saw "various individuals at the top of the plane. Just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor."
"And then I just realized I'm not in a movie, this is actually for real," he said.
From the interviews.. even the pilot was terrified. He said his instruments just went blank and then came back.. so sounds like a power outage and fly by wire was disengaged and then reengaged.
They seriously need to find out and eliminate the flaws. Boeing's had quite a few freaky incidents happen over the years.. MCAS recently and even the 767 there was an incident where the thrust reverser deployed in flight and killed everyone on board.
dainthomas
Lifer
If a flight says Boeing, I ain't booking it.
Zorba
Lifer
Sounds like severe turbulence, not a mechanical issue, but we'll see what the investigation finds.Yesterday it was the Dreamliner's turn. A "technical problem" caused a Latam flight from Australia to New Zealand to suddenly lose altitude, 50 passengers and crew were injured. One of the pilot's reportedly told a passenger that all the controls "suddenly went dark."
'The plane just froze': 50 people injured after technical fault on flight to Auckland
More than 10 St John vehicles weare at the airport this afternoon.
One woman on the flight said she experienced a “quick little drop” during the flight.
“I used to be a flight attendant and this is the first time I’ve ever . . . the whole plane just froze,” she said.
A pilot on a Boeing plane that plummeted midair said his 'gauges just kind of went blank on me,' passenger says
A passenger on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner that plunged sharply said the pilot told him afterwards that he briefly lost control of the plane.
After the flight landed, passenger Brian Jokat told CNN that he spoke to the pilot, who he said told him: "My gauges just kind of went blank on me."
Jokat told CNN that he had been sleeping when the plane "dropped something to the effect of 500 feet instantly."
Opening his eyes, he said he saw "various individuals at the top of the plane. Just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor."
"And then I just realized I'm not in a movie, this is actually for real," he said.
Zorba
Lifer
He had just given his deposition to the Boeing Lawyers. Even if he was completely correct they probably beat the shit out of him.
He also maximized the utility of his suicide doing it the way he did.
thilanliyan
Lifer
Would the instruments blank out during turbulence though? Assuming that snippet is correct.
John Oliver did his usual great job on Boeing, now on YouTube.
Zorba
Lifer
No, but pilots already are bad sources of data, then filter that through a passenger and who knows if that actually happened. Lots of pilots claim stuff happened that didn't once the data was reviewed.
I was involved in an investigation were the aircraft went off the runway, neither pilot realized the airbrakes were never deployed. They announced to the aircraft that the brakes failed and they and no braking power. A similar conversation was caught on the cockpit voice recorder. They were convinced the plane was broken. What actually happened is without airbrakes, there is almost no weight on the tires so the antiskid system won't apply much power to prevent skidding. Just like ABS in a car on ice.
On the 787, there was an airworthiness directive (AD, which are required maintenance) that came out years ago that said the aircraft had to be rebooted every 20 days or the system could randomly reboot in flight. It's possible that Latam failed to do that. Not exactly sure what that would do in flight, but it probably runs through a built in test (BIT) check that moves flight controls.
Lost_in_the_HTTP
Lifer
Has the Pea&Nut gallery seen this?
ABC|4 hours ago
Boeing overwrote surveillance footage from the repair facility where a door plug was reinstalled ahead of the blowout on an Alaska Airlines flight earlier this year.
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Boeing overwrote surveillance footage of door plug repair, NTSB chair says
Boeing overwrote surveillance footage from the repair facility where a door plug was reinstalled ahead of the blowout on an Alaska Airlines flight earlier this year.
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No better time for a smoke test than when cruising at 32k feet. 🤦♂️
Fenixgoon
Lifer
FTFY
hal2kilo
Lifer
A good house cleaning of upper management at Boeing and senior line managers at Spirit would be a start.
Lost_in_the_HTTP
Lifer
Wonder if they'll make a movie out of this one like they did about the one in Hawaii so many years back.
[DHT]Osiris
Lifer
Time to get the newest guys on the line to do the next few rounds of leadership interviews.
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