You would make something like that up to try and get a point across. The point you made was good enough, you did not need to overexagerate it with something no one would belive.
Different mindset of people back than, the same as people in med-evil times allowed to be lil more than pawns in whatever the nobles wanted. They became slaves, because they were told to.
OK worthwhile.
Indentured servitude was not necassarily agreed on by both parties.
Originally many slaves were given freedom at the age of 25.
Life long servitude was introduces later on with the agricultural south and to prevent slaves from using the legal system.
Too much pride was not the problem with Indian slaves. "Though the issue is complex, the unsuitability of Native Americans for the labor intensive agricultural practices, their susceptibility to European diseases, the proximity of avenues of escape for Native Americans, and the lucrative nature of the African slave trade led to a transition to an African based institution of slavery"
"Evil Europeans" did in fact give technology to Africans to meet the demand for slaves.
Alright kid, back then, the Africans had no idea where they were going or what they would be subjected to in the "new world". It was be a slave or die, and since they didn't know that living would be an arguably worser (too lazy to find a proper word) fate than death, they chose life. You see, Africans, like all humans, have this thing called survival instinct.
HumblePie
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Here's what I remember...
Slave labor, which means FORCED LABOR without restitution of any form.
Look it up on wikipedia
Some nice info is found form Wikipedia, but there are volumes and volumes of information out there on this subject. Take note, Wikipedia talks about North America imported slave labor and where it came from. Wiki gives mainly info regarding the black slavery in north america, not the entire slave history.
Indentured servitude, debtors works, and other means of "coercision" are deemed SLAVE LABOR. It is forcing someone to work against their will to do so without paying them back in some way.
Black slavery in America was after YEARS of other forms of slavery. The first slaves were either the the North American Indians, or indentured Irish settlers.
Later, people from many different nationalities became slaves at one point in America. However, there was a problem, either A) they resisted too much or B) escaped too much. The problem with having a WHITE irish slave in a white society is if the slave escapes, there isn't any easy method of tracking him/her down again.
However, slave traders that dealt in America, learned from slave traders in the middle east who use black african slaves. These guys are the ORIGINAL slave dealers, who enslaved hebrews, jews, and just about any other humans culture not of their society.
They were making the slaves more pliable by working on certain cultural influences to many south African tribes who all were very warlike in nature. Many tribes were in direct competition for food, hunting grounds, farm land, and females. Some of them just liked to fight for any reason period. Using this animosity, middle eastern and north african slave traders would use one tribe to help capture another or use greedy individuals of a tribe, usually the elder or leader of that tribe, to sell off the rest of his tribe to them.
The American slave traders found out, found a way to make a nice route across the Atlantic, and also saw the added bonus of Blacks being very visible in a white society.
At first, slave traders didn't think Blacks were NON HUMAN, just merely savages. It came from dealings, and with many tribes being REALLY REALLY REALLY DUMB, that led to a change of thinking. Give the chief of a tribe a worthless shiny trinket and he'll give you any member of his tribe to take along. Willingly because they were told by the elder. That lack of morals, and intelligence led whites to think that maybe black people weren't people at all. Yes, there were more reasons then just this, but it is also a prevelant reason as to why white people changed their view of black people from savages to sub-humans. Part of it was also interactions that came from dealing with the American "savage" natives. That, and their technological advantage and wealth they had over anyone else kept twisting their views more and more.
Another reasons to use blacks, is that America was expanding, by pushing off natives from the land and usually killing them in the process. This led to HUGE tracks of land (hehe monty reference but without the sex context) to be owned by people with no one to work them. Blacks in Africa were plenty, and easy to obtain. Hence, the sudden influx as them used as slaves.
Blacks were NOT the only slaves, just the easiest and most plentiful to obtain. Which led to more black slaves in America then any other type.
Slave labor, which means FORCED LABOR without restitution of any form.
Look it up on wikipedia
Some nice info is found form Wikipedia, but there are volumes and volumes of information out there on this subject. Take note, Wikipedia talks about North America imported slave labor and where it came from. Wiki gives mainly info regarding the black slavery in north america, not the entire slave history.
Indentured servitude, debtors works, and other means of "coercision" are deemed SLAVE LABOR. It is forcing someone to work against their will to do so without paying them back in some way.
Black slavery in America was after YEARS of other forms of slavery. The first slaves were either the the North American Indians, or indentured Irish settlers.
Later, people from many different nationalities became slaves at one point in America. However, there was a problem, either A) they resisted too much or B) escaped too much. The problem with having a WHITE irish slave in a white society is if the slave escapes, there isn't any easy method of tracking him/her down again.
However, slave traders that dealt in America, learned from slave traders in the middle east who use black african slaves. These guys are the ORIGINAL slave dealers, who enslaved hebrews, jews, and just about any other humans culture not of their society.
They were making the slaves more pliable by working on certain cultural influences to many south African tribes who all were very warlike in nature. Many tribes were in direct competition for food, hunting grounds, farm land, and females. Some of them just liked to fight for any reason period. Using this animosity, middle eastern and north african slave traders would use one tribe to help capture another or use greedy individuals of a tribe, usually the elder or leader of that tribe, to sell off the rest of his tribe to them.
The American slave traders found out, found a way to make a nice route across the Atlantic, and also saw the added bonus of Blacks being very visible in a white society.
At first, slave traders didn't think Blacks were NON HUMAN, just merely savages. It came from dealings, and with many tribes being REALLY REALLY REALLY DUMB, that led to a change of thinking. Give the chief of a tribe a worthless shiny trinket and he'll give you any member of his tribe to take along. Willingly because they were told by the elder. That lack of morals, and intelligence led whites to think that maybe black people weren't people at all. Yes, there were more reasons then just this, but it is also a prevelant reason as to why white people changed their view of black people from savages to sub-humans. Part of it was also interactions that came from dealing with the American "savage" natives. That, and their technological advantage and wealth they had over anyone else kept twisting their views more and more.
Another reasons to use blacks, is that America was expanding, by pushing off natives from the land and usually killing them in the process. This led to HUGE tracks of land (hehe monty reference but without the sex context) to be owned by people with no one to work them. Blacks in Africa were plenty, and easy to obtain. Hence, the sudden influx as them used as slaves.
Blacks were NOT the only slaves, just the easiest and most plentiful to obtain. Which led to more black slaves in America then any other type.
QFT.
Apparently some people like to lump themselves in with the slaveholding moral garbage of the 19th century. My ancestors during the time of slavery in the US were living in Germany, so 'we' certainly isn't me or my family.
You are free too look up the sources. Bad links are not that uncommon......
Howard Zinn is a historian?
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lol yea. they trek through the desert running towards slavery lolthey do it cuz even with low wages its MORE THEN THEY GET IN MEXICO!! most send money back to mexico...why is that if its worthless? mexico is highly reliant on the massive flow of money sent back.
Exactly.
He has a Ph.D. in History from Columbia and taught at serveral colleges. That probably makes him a historian
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