Black slavery

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: paulney

Can you clarify that 'they are the loudest about it' part? Takes a sip of root beer calmly

I haven't heard lately of chinese claiming reparations for the slavery of their ancestors. Have you?

Every race that was enslaved on this planet were paid reparartions of some kind except for 'ding ding', blacks from America. Germany paid, China paid as well. So you are misinformed

That sure is funny, I don't remember getting my reparations.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: PunDogg
you are retarded, how old are you 2, jeez man, you don't go into slavery willingly, you are kept captive because guys with guns, or wips are not letting you leave. Its like being in Jail no one WANTS to go to jail. Before you ask such stupid questions go read a book or something open your eyes

Dogg

Oh I am 53 years old. I did not say go into "slavery" I said they allowed themselves to be enslaved. I thinthere is a big difference between those 2 statements

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: OulOat
There was Chinese slaves.

There were NEVER Chinese slaves. The Chinese came willingly to this country to work on the railroads. They were paid and although they were paid very little at a level one could call "slave wages" they were never OWNED and kept by White people.

No, that's incorrect. Try reading some history books. Look up "coolie labor"

coo[lie 7k1$lc8
n.
5Hindi qulj, hired servant, prob. < kolj, name of a tribe or caste of Gujarat6
1 an unskilled native laborer, esp. formerly, in India, China, etc.
2 a person doing heavy labor for little pay
Thanks for the input. Who are you kidding

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: PunDogg
you are retarded, how old are you 2, jeez man, you don't go into slavery willingly, you are kept captive because guys with guns, or wips are not letting you leave. Its like being in Jail no one WANTS to go to jail. Before you ask such stupid questions go read a book or something open your eyes

Dogg

Oh I am 53 years old. I did not say go into "slavery" I said they allowed themselves to be enslaved. I thinthere is a big difference between those 2 statements

They didn't "allow" themselves to become slaves. They were forced into it. The "superior" africans were rounding up the "inferior" ones and selling them to the Europeans/Americas.

Some people don't allow themselves to go to jail Ever heard of murder suicide ...so you would rather be a slave then die? The founders of this nation told England to Fvck off and many died rather than be persecuted by England Youy fvck.

Yes some slaves preferred to jump off the ship and drown. Others were overcome by the sense of helplessness or perhaps had a glimmer of hope.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: blinky8225
I thought we did try indians, but they died too easily from disease. Blacks were tougher and hardier, supposedly.

slavery in the caribean (feck my spelling sucks today) was a failure with the natives. Blacks were the natural choices, as there was already a history with black slaves in the mediterreanan.

Why were they slaves?. Why didn't they refuse?

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: FleshLight

Originally posted by: PawNtheSandman
Throughout time, at one point or another, every race has been slaves to other races.

But why is slavery automatically associated with Africans?

Because they are the loudest about it. And it only happened 150 years ago so we have a detailed description of it. And we have thousands of books and movies (Roots, Beloved, Uncle Tom's Cabin, Amistad, etc) in popular culture.

Doesn't answer the question "Why were they Slaves"?

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
How come slavery is still so prevelant in Africa?

Maybe because Blacks believe in enslaving people?

 

[EyeMNathan]

Originally posted by: sonz70

So why should people who were not involved in it at all be forced to pay reperartions?

QFT.

To add a bit to it:

No slave, or child of a slave, is still alive. No slave keeper, or child of a slavekeeper, is still alive. Many African-American people living in America are not descended from slaves. Why should they be paid? Most tax-paying non-Black citizens (the ones who would end up paying for reparations), are not descended from slavekeepers. Why should they have to pay?

 

[yepmetoo]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: blinky8225
I thought we did try indians, but they died too easily from disease. Blacks were tougher and hardier, supposedly.

slavery in the caribean (feck my spelling sucks today) was a failure with the natives. Blacks were the natural choices, as there was already a history with black slaves in the mediterreanan.

Why were they slaves?. Why didn't they refuse?

How would they refuse?

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: blinky8225
I thought we did try indians, but they died too easily from disease. Blacks were tougher and hardier, supposedly.

slavery in the caribean (feck my spelling sucks today) was a failure with the natives. Blacks were the natural choices, as there was already a history with black slaves in the mediterreanan.

Why were they slaves?. Why didn't they refuse?

How would they refuse?

He's just trolling now.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Consider this.....slavery still exists in America and people are profitting off of using them in forced labor. (Illegal Aliens)

How is that slavery? They come here willingly, knowing that they will not be able to get legal jobs because they're illegal. Oh, and they get paid. Very little by our standards, sure, but slaves are not paid at all.

lol yea. they trek through the desert running towards slavery lol they do it cuz even with low wages its MORE THEN THEY GET IN MEXICO!! most send money back to mexico...why is that if its worthless? mexico is highly reliant on the massive flow of money sent back.

Thanks for the west coast type POV, but this is the modus operandi across the country for many people.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: blinky8225
I thought we did try indians, but they died too easily from disease. Blacks were tougher and hardier, supposedly.

slavery in the caribean (feck my spelling sucks today) was a failure with the natives. Blacks were the natural choices, as there was already a history with black slaves in the mediterreanan.

Why were they slaves?. Why didn't they refuse?

How would they refuse?

By filling out a complaint form.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: PunDogg
you are retarded, how old are you 2, jeez man, you don't go into slavery willingly, you are kept captive because guys with guns, or wips are not letting you leave. Its like being in Jail no one WANTS to go to jail. Before you ask such stupid questions go read a book or something open your eyes

Dogg

Oh I am 53 years old. I did not say go into "slavery" I said they allowed themselves to be enslaved. I thinthere is a big difference between those 2 statements

trying to play your dad online is not going to get you any closers to teh s3xorZ with your mom.

Tomorrow I am betting you are going to cry 'it was my 9 year old posting'

 

[Rebasxer]

Well first off, indentured servatude was a contract both parties entered willingly to, but most indentured servants never became free of their masters, and almost all were abused. Indians were enslaved but they didn't work too well, too much pride ect. And most black slaves were given up by African chiefs. These chiefs would round up people and give them to European slave traders in return for money/european conviences and favor. It was not really so much "evil european uses technology to force free loving africans to become slaves" but rather "european slave traders bargined with African upper class for slaves"

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..slavery is a worldwide phenomenon that continues to this day..and was well established long before slaves were brought to the US by the Dixie Democrats.


Sudanese slaves await redemption in Madhol, Sudan, in December 1997. An Arab trader sold 132 former slaves, women and children, for $13,200 (in Sudanese money) to a member of Christian Solidarity International..

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Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 200 million people in bondage.


The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being.


"There he found several Dinka men hobbling, their Achilles tendons cut because they refused to become Muslims."

?from an ASI report on Sudanese slavery

Shackled laborers in Pakistan


Many of the bonded laborers are shackled in leg-irons in Pakistan. Though much of the debt these cane-harvesters have incurred is real, the practice of exchanging human labor for landowners' loans is illegal.

In a 1992 law passed by the Pakistani government, landlords are barred from offering loans in exchange for work or to hold workers hostage to their debts. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has freed approximately 7,500 bonded laborers since 1995.

By the commission's estimates, there are still roughly 50,000 bonded laborers in southern Singh. Many of those freed now reside in the city of Hyderabad in makeshift camps. Most are afraid to return to their homeland, however, for fear they will be recaptured and enslaved again.


Beyond the Emancipation Proclamation


Accounts of human beings as modern slaves extend beyond those described here, and include young girls sold into prostitution in Thailand and slave chattels in Mauritania. Though most Americans believe slavery was abolished with the Emancipation Proclamation more than a century ago, the horrors of human beings held in bondage flourishes today.

I am talking about yhis country O. K.

Answer me this. What would I have to do to you to get you to be my slave. What would I have to threaten you with? You just say no. Why didn't they. A woman once tried to make me lick her ass when I was a child of 5 and I refused. I was beaten fot it but I would not lick her asshole no matter what. It would have been impossible for her to make me lick her asshole on my own power.

 

[yepmetoo]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: IGBT

I am talking about yhis country O. K.

Answer me this. What would I have to do to you to get you to be my slave. What would I have to threaten you with? You just say no. Why didn't they. A woman once tried to make me lick her ass when I was a child of 5 and I refused. I was beaten fot it but I would not lick her asshole no matter what. It would have been impossible for her to make me lick her asshole on my own power.

:roll:

 

[yepmetoo]

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Well first off, indentured servatude was a contract both parties entered willingly to, but most indentured servants never became free of their masters, and almost all were abused. Indians were enslaved but they didn't work too well, too much pride ect. And most black slaves were given up by African chiefs. These chiefs would round up people and give them to European slave traders in return for money/european conviences and favor. It was not really so much "evil european uses technology to force free loving africans to become slaves" but rather "european slave traders bargined with African upper class for slaves"

No.

 

[Rebasxer]

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Well first off, indentured servatude was a contract both parties entered willingly to, but most indentured servants never became free of their masters, and almost all were abused. Indians were enslaved but they didn't work too well, too much pride ect. And most black slaves were given up by African chiefs. These chiefs would round up people and give them to European slave traders in return for money/european conviences and favor. It was not really so much "evil european uses technology to force free loving africans to become slaves" but rather "european slave traders bargined with African upper class for slaves"

No.

I love people who disagree without any proof

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: classy
But let me also make this clear I am not a real reparartions supporter though. I think it would be nice of they did something for many of the blacks like my parents who were truly deprived for the most part in their lives, they grew up during the 50's. Even if was something small like $1000 bond or anything with some kind of nice apology. My grandfather was killed in a fight with some white men, no one never found out who the men were. My parents weren't even married yet, but he would have been my grandfather. My grandfather on my mom's side did 5 years in prison for fighting back against some white man early in his life. Thse things were 'normal' occurances in those days. We all talk about slavery, but the oppression continued long after 'slavery' quote unquote was over. But someone like me who is in their 30's or even 40's I think you have what you have because of you.

What do I have? Who owes your grandparents an apology? Me. So what if he was killed by whites. What difference does that make? If he was killed by blacks would that be better? That isn't indicative of racism. Nice try.Nobody owes you an apology. An apology for what?

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: IGBT
..slavery is a worldwide phenomenon that continues to this day..and was well established long before slaves were brought to the US by the Dixie Democrats.


Sudanese slaves await redemption in Madhol, Sudan, in December 1997. An Arab trader sold 132 former slaves, women and children, for $13,200 (in Sudanese money) to a member of Christian Solidarity International..

Text


Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 200 million people in bondage.


The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being.


"There he found several Dinka men hobbling, their Achilles tendons cut because they refused to become Muslims."

?from an ASI report on Sudanese slavery

Shackled laborers in Pakistan


Many of the bonded laborers are shackled in leg-irons in Pakistan. Though much of the debt these cane-harvesters have incurred is real, the practice of exchanging human labor for landowners' loans is illegal.

In a 1992 law passed by the Pakistani government, landlords are barred from offering loans in exchange for work or to hold workers hostage to their debts. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has freed approximately 7,500 bonded laborers since 1995.

By the commission's estimates, there are still roughly 50,000 bonded laborers in southern Singh. Many of those freed now reside in the city of Hyderabad in makeshift camps. Most are afraid to return to their homeland, however, for fear they will be recaptured and enslaved again.


Beyond the Emancipation Proclamation


Accounts of human beings as modern slaves extend beyond those described here, and include young girls sold into prostitution in Thailand and slave chattels in Mauritania. Though most Americans believe slavery was abolished with the Emancipation Proclamation more than a century ago, the horrors of human beings held in bondage flourishes today.

I am talking about yhis country O. K.

Answer me this. What would I have to do to you to get you to be my slave. What would I have to threaten you with? You just say no. Why didn't they. A woman once tried to make me lick her ass when I was a child of 5 and I refused. I was beaten fot it but I would not lick her asshole no matter what. It would have been impossible for her to make me lick her asshole on my own power.

I'm sure that happened to you.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't get it. The way I see it is...the only way you can enslave someone is if they accept that condition willingly. I guess I don't understand how only blacks were enslaved in this country and not other races ...such as the "Indians",chinese,south americans,etc. I find this very difficult to understand. Why blacks?

ManyBeers is a fitting title, enjoy your time here while it lasts.

I think this is a good question you idiot.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: IGBT

I am talking about yhis country O. K.

Answer me this. What would I have to do to you to get you to be my slave. What would I have to threaten you with? You just say no. Why didn't they. A woman once tried to make me lick her ass when I was a child of 5 and I refused. I was beaten fot it but I would not lick her asshole no matter what. It would have been impossible for her to make me lick her asshole on my own power.

:roll:

I'm sorry but he has a point. You would have to kill me because you would never make me a slave.

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: Rebasxer

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Well first off, indentured servatude was a contract both parties entered willingly to, but most indentured servants never became free of their masters, and almost all were abused. Indians were enslaved but they didn't work too well, too much pride ect. And most black slaves were given up by African chiefs. These chiefs would round up people and give them to European slave traders in return for money/european conviences and favor. It was not really so much "evil european uses technology to force free loving africans to become slaves" but rather "european slave traders bargined with African upper class for slaves"

No.

I love people who disagree without any proof

I would love to see your reference for that comment, no sarcasm at all, but I was never aware of that.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: FleshLight

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: PunDogg
you are retarded, how old are you 2, jeez man, you don't go into slavery willingly, you are kept captive because guys with guns, or wips are not letting you leave. Its like being in Jail no one WANTS to go to jail. Before you ask such stupid questions go read a book or something open your eyes

Dogg

Oh I am 53 years old. I did not say go into "slavery" I said they allowed themselves to be enslaved. I thinthere is a big difference between those 2 statements

They didn't "allow" themselves to become slaves. They were forced into it. The "superior" africans were rounding up the "inferior" ones and selling them to the Europeans/Americas.

Some people don't allow themselves to go to jail Ever heard of murder suicide ...so you would rather be a slave then die? The founders of this nation told England to Fvck off and many died rather than be persecuted by England Youy fvck.

Yes some slaves preferred to jump off the ship and drown. Others were overcome by the sense of helplessness or perhaps had a glimmer of hope.

Could you be forced to be a slave?

 

[yepmetoo]

Originally posted by: Rebasxer

Originally posted by: yepmetoo

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Well first off, indentured servatude was a contract both parties entered willingly to, but most indentured servants never became free of their masters, and almost all were abused. Indians were enslaved but they didn't work too well, too much pride ect. And most black slaves were given up by African chiefs. These chiefs would round up people and give them to European slave traders in return for money/european conviences and favor. It was not really so much "evil european uses technology to force free loving africans to become slaves" but rather "european slave traders bargined with African upper class for slaves"

No.

I love people who disagree without any proof

I'm not here to teach you history but you can start here:
http://www.innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html

then move on to googling what was actually involved in slave trade...........