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No Lifer
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Looks like you need to pick up a history book.
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/bus/A0813430.html
Indentured servants are FAR from slaves. They enter into a contract WILLINGLY and are not OWNED. They have a contract and it looks like it was in British and French colonies....nowhere in there do I see anything about America...by the time slavery ended in this country the US was definitely not a British colony.
They weren't-
Many people sent to the colonies and sentenced to forced labor in "debtor's prison".
As others have mentioned- go take a history class.
Many people sent to the colonies and sentenced to forced labor in "debtor's prison".
As others have mentioned- go take a history class.
I don't think any sane, reasonable person has ever taken the idea of reparations seriously.
Every race that was enslaved on this planet were paid reparartions of some kind except for 'ding ding', blacks from America. Germany paid, China paid as well. So you are misinformed
Germany did not pay reparations to all Jews, just to those who were forced labor in the conentration camps and their immediate families.
"36 years of "reparations" already paid in the form of job quotas, racial preferences, and race-based targets and goals since passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964" Qutoes from the site I just posted
ThePresence
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How is that slavery? They come here willingly, knowing that they will not be able to get legal jobs because they're illegal. Oh, and they get paid. Very little by our standards, sure, but slaves are not paid at all.
Hayabusa Rider
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Two things
First blacks were not considered fully human by many in the old US and Europe before us.
Second, blacks in Africa were all for capturing other blacks and selling them for a profit. Great way to eliminate competing tribes and turn a buck. Call it a free market in slavery.
First blacks were not considered fully human by many in the old US and Europe before us.
Second, blacks in Africa were all for capturing other blacks and selling them for a profit. Great way to eliminate competing tribes and turn a buck. Call it a free market in slavery.
IGBT
Lifer
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..slavery is a worldwide phenomenon that continues to this day..and was well established long before slaves were brought to the US by the Dixie Democrats.
Sudanese slaves await redemption in Madhol, Sudan, in December 1997. An Arab trader sold 132 former slaves, women and children, for $13,200 (in Sudanese money) to a member of Christian Solidarity International..
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Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 200 million people in bondage.
The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being.
"There he found several Dinka men hobbling, their Achilles tendons cut because they refused to become Muslims."
?from an ASI report on Sudanese slavery
Shackled laborers in Pakistan
Many of the bonded laborers are shackled in leg-irons in Pakistan. Though much of the debt these cane-harvesters have incurred is real, the practice of exchanging human labor for landowners' loans is illegal.
In a 1992 law passed by the Pakistani government, landlords are barred from offering loans in exchange for work or to hold workers hostage to their debts. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has freed approximately 7,500 bonded laborers since 1995.
By the commission's estimates, there are still roughly 50,000 bonded laborers in southern Singh. Many of those freed now reside in the city of Hyderabad in makeshift camps. Most are afraid to return to their homeland, however, for fear they will be recaptured and enslaved again.
Beyond the Emancipation Proclamation
Accounts of human beings as modern slaves extend beyond those described here, and include young girls sold into prostitution in Thailand and slave chattels in Mauritania. Though most Americans believe slavery was abolished with the Emancipation Proclamation more than a century ago, the horrors of human beings held in bondage flourishes today.
Sudanese slaves await redemption in Madhol, Sudan, in December 1997. An Arab trader sold 132 former slaves, women and children, for $13,200 (in Sudanese money) to a member of Christian Solidarity International..
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Modern-day slaves can be found laboring as servants or concubines in Sudan, as child "carpet slaves" in India, or as cane-cutters in Haiti and southern Pakistan, to name but a few instances. According to Anti-Slavery International, the world's oldest human rights organization, there are currently over 200 million people in bondage.
The enslavement of the Dinkas in southern Sudan may be the most horrific and well-known example of contemporary slavery. According to 1993 U.S. State Department estimates, up to 90,000 blacks are owned by North African Arabs, and often sold as property in a thriving slave trade for as little as $15 per human being.
"There he found several Dinka men hobbling, their Achilles tendons cut because they refused to become Muslims."
?from an ASI report on Sudanese slavery
Shackled laborers in Pakistan
Many of the bonded laborers are shackled in leg-irons in Pakistan. Though much of the debt these cane-harvesters have incurred is real, the practice of exchanging human labor for landowners' loans is illegal.
In a 1992 law passed by the Pakistani government, landlords are barred from offering loans in exchange for work or to hold workers hostage to their debts. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has freed approximately 7,500 bonded laborers since 1995.
By the commission's estimates, there are still roughly 50,000 bonded laborers in southern Singh. Many of those freed now reside in the city of Hyderabad in makeshift camps. Most are afraid to return to their homeland, however, for fear they will be recaptured and enslaved again.
Beyond the Emancipation Proclamation
Accounts of human beings as modern slaves extend beyond those described here, and include young girls sold into prostitution in Thailand and slave chattels in Mauritania. Though most Americans believe slavery was abolished with the Emancipation Proclamation more than a century ago, the horrors of human beings held in bondage flourishes today.
But let me also make this clear I am not a real reparartions supporter though. I think it would be nice of they did something for many of the blacks like my parents who were truly deprived for the most part in their lives, they grew up during the 50's. Even if was something small like $1000 bond or anything with some kind of nice apology. My grandfather was killed in a fight with some white men, no one never found out who the men were. My parents weren't even married yet, but he would have been my grandfather. My grandfather on my mom's side did 5 years in prison for fighting back against some white man early in his life. Thse things were 'normal' occurances in those days. We all talk about slavery, but the oppression continued long after 'slavery' quote unquote was over. But someone like me who is in their 30's or even 40's I think you have what you have because of you.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
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lol yea. they trek through the desert running towards slavery lol
they do it cuz even with low wages its MORE THEN THEY GET IN MEXICO!! most send money back to mexico...why is that if its worthless? mexico is highly reliant on the massive flow of money sent back.TRENDING THREADS
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