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Black Security Guard Detained A Gunman. Police Shot Him Dead

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NAC4EV

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A black security guard was shot dead by a police officer as he held down a gunman at the bar where he worked.

Jemel Roberson, 26, was working early Sunday at Manny’s Blue Room ― a bar in the predominantly black Chicago suburb of Robbins, Illinois ― when a patron who was part of a drunken group that had been kicked out returned with a gun at 4 a.m. and opened fire, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. Several people were shot.

Roberson, who was armed at the time, grabbed one of the men, held him down and was waited for police, according to witnesses.

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Was about to post this myself. I'm no "dur hur blue lives matter" person, but god damn you have to have some stupid fucking cops to not understand the concept of assessing a situation prior to acting upon it. Takes a special kind of stupid.

Oh well, just another valuable life amongst the black community. Let's just clean this mess up real quick with a few mill from the police union. No harm no foul.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Was about to post this myself. I'm no "dur hur blue lives matter" person, but god damn you have to have some stupid fucking cops to not understand the concept of assessing a situation prior to acting upon it. Takes a special kind of stupid.

Oh well, just another valuable life amongst the black community. Let's just clean this mess up real quick with a few mill from the police union. No harm no foul.
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I have only skimmed this thread, but I'm guessing they got a report of an armed gunman (maybe even "shots fired"). They come across what looks like a hostage situation. If the person doesn't comply with an order to drop the weapon immediately, they feel pressure to take him out at the first opportunity that appears safe for the "hostage."
 
Ichinisan said:
I have only skimmed this thread, but I'm guessing they got a report of an armed gunman (maybe even "shots fired"). They come across what looks like a hostage situation. If the person doesn't comply with an order to drop the weapon immediately, they feel pressure to take him out at the first opportunity that appears safe for the "hostage."
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Called it in the other thread.
Paratus said:
He should have ______ and then he wouldn’t have been shot.

Well I would have ________ instead

Besides he wasn’t really a good guy because he ________ in the past
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There’s always an excuse why police shooting an innocent person was ok.
 
Ichinisan said:
I have only skimmed this thread, but I'm guessing they got a report of an armed gunman (maybe even "shots fired"). They come across what looks like a hostage situation. If the person doesn't comply with an order to drop the weapon immediately, they feel pressure to take him out at the first opportunity that appears safe for the "hostage."
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How do you know any of this?
Are you nostradamus?
Why are you defending the cops?
They killed the good guy with the gun.
Fuck these cops, shoot and ask questions later. 🙄
 
Meghan54 said:
So I guess the security guard should've just shot the shooting suspect and called it a day, eh?

Damn, you are just stupid.
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“He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back, with his gun in his back like, ‘Don’t move,’” Adam Harris told WGN-TV.
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Police walk into that scene they are probably going to shoot. It would look like a hostage situation. Seriously though if you are NOT a police officer don't try and act like one.
 
UglyCasanova said:
There was only the OP followed by three short reply’s before yours 😀


And you’re probably right
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I know. I was saying I didn't read the article or watch anything else online about the incident. Only skimmed the OP and the most recent reply.
 
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13Gigatons said:
Police walk into that scene they are probably going to shoot. It would look like a hostage situation. Seriously though if you are NOT a police officer don't try and act like one.
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So can we at least stop with the good guy with a gun bullshit, then? I'm sure these cops have picked up multiple people held by club security in their careers, not like it is an unusual situation.
 
13Gigatons said:
Police walk into that scene they are probably going to shoot. It would look like a hostage situation. Seriously though if you are NOT a police officer don't try and act like one.
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Why didn't you include the paragraph below? Hmmmmm????

“Everybody was screaming out, ‘Security!’ He was a security guard ... and they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him,” Harris said.
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And then there's this:

An autopsy Monday found Roberson (the security guard) died of multiple gunshot wounds and his death was ruled a homicide, according to the medical examiner’s office.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/security-guard-robbins-midlothian-bar-shooting/


And the combination of those two paragraphs are some of what's been reported as to how I chose to make my statement....nowhere was I insinuating I was impersonating a police officer. Dumbass.
 
esquared said:
How do you know any of this?
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I literally skimmed the OP and the most recent reply, which I stated.

Ichinisan said:
I have only skimmed this thread, but I'm guessing ...
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I did not assert my authority or claim to "know" anything. I speculated about an obviously-plausible scenario that can lead to such a horrible outcome.

Someone had already said:

s0me0nesmind1 said:
god damn you have to have some stupid fucking cops to not understand the concept of assessing a situation prior to acting upon it. Takes a special kind of stupid.
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A possible scenario that could have led to this should be immediately obvious. Based on the limited information I quickly scanned through, it is quite plausible that this situation was incorrectly assessed as one that required immediate action to save the life of another. To say otherwise (based only on the info presented within the OP) is disingenuous.

NAC4EV said:
Roberson, who was armed at the time, grabbed one of the men, held him down and was waited for police, according to witnesses.
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esquared said:
Are you nostradamus?
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Only Nostradamus can make a guess or develop an impression based on the premise presented in the OP? Why do we have forums and discussion threads?

esquared said:
Why are you defending the cops?
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Yeah. Speculating about the circumstances that may have led to their fuck-up is "defending the cops." Let's all practice cognitive dissonance and completely ignore a plausible explanation!

esquared said:
They killed the good guy with the gun.
Fuck these cops, shoot and ask questions later. 🙄
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Maybe they thought they were saving a life in a critical situation that required split-second decisions. Maybe.

I don't envy anyone in that hypothetical (but possibly actual) position.

Expect replies from people pretending that "plausible" implies "most likely."
 
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Zorba said:
So can we at least stop with the good guy with a gun bullshit, then? I'm sure these cops have picked up multiple people held by club security in their careers, not like it is an unusual situation.
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Do we know if he was wearing an obvious uniform?
 
Meghan54 said:
Why didn't you include the paragraph below? Hmmmmm????




And then there's this:



https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/security-guard-robbins-midlothian-bar-shooting/


And the combination of those two paragraphs are some of what's been reported as to how I chose to make my statement....nowhere was I insinuating I was impersonating a police officer. Dumbass.
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He wasn't saying that you impersonated a police officer. He was saying Roberson should not act like one.

I dunno. How else was Roberson supposed to respond to the gunman?
 
Ichinisan said:
I literally skimmed the OP and the most recent reply, which I stated.



I did not assert my authority or claim to "know" anything. I speculated about an obviously-plausible scenario that can lead to such a horrible outcome.

Someone had already said:



A possible scenario that could have led to this should be immediately obvious. Based on the limited information I quickly scanned through, it is quite plausible that this situation was incorrectly assessed as one that required immediate action to save the life of another. To say otherwise (based only on the info presented within the OP) is disingenuous.





Only Nostradamus can make a guess or develop an impression based on the premise presented in the OP? Why do we have forums and discussion threads?


Yeah. Speculating about the circumstances that may have led to their fuck-up is "defending the cops." Let's all practice cognitive dissonance and completely ignore a plausible explanation!



Maybe they thought they were saving a life in a critical situation that required split-second decisions. Maybe.

I don't envy anyone in that hypothetical (but possibly actual) position.

Expect replies from people pretending that "plausible" implies "most likely."
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Your speculating is defending the cops.
You said yourself you skimmed or didn't read the article.
Why even bother to comment? It only makes you more ignorant when you side with the cops.
What are you a cop lover/defender?

They shot an innocent man. These cops are fucking morons for their shoot first and ask questions later mentality.They need to be kicked off the force and tried for murder for taking this man's life.

Where's your outrage for another innocent man that lost his life at the hands of the police?
 
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esquared said:
Your speculating is defending the cops.
You said yourself you skimmed or didn't read the article.
Why even bother to comment? It only makes you more ignorant when you side with the cops.
What are you a cop lover/defender?

They shot an innocent man. These cops are fucking morons for their shoot first and ask questions later mentality.They need to be kicked off the force and tried for murder for taking this man's life.

Where's your outrage for another innocent man that lost his life at the hands of the police?
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Ahhhhhh.

You're so absolutely right. You know all facts. Speculation is pointless when you already have a conclusion.
 
Ichinisan said:
Ahhhhhh.

You're so absolutely right. You know all facts. Speculation is pointless when you already have a conclusion.
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Piss off, cop defender.
I still see no outrage from you over another
innocent man being murdered by cops.
Your silence on this matter speaks volumes.
 
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