Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is ?ignorant? about it? Specifics please.
Well, if you have to ask...food stamps, welfare, and ghettos are not exactly things that blacks should feel appreciated from (white) America. It isn't even a black thing. It's a poverty thing.
If I have to explain further, then you're probably in the same boat as him.
This is true. I believe programs like food stamps, welfare, and government housing have held back the black community. Generation after generation just have kept living on the government handout instead of making their own way and realizing their own potential.
Yep. It's like a drug.
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
The black community, of course. But, again, you missed the point. Buchanan points out some highly ignorant "gifts" that America gave AAs. These are nothing to be proud of. Of course, what he didn't want to say was that AAs had to fight and die for what they have today. They still have a long way to go but the hard-earned rewards weren't given by white america, but taken by force.
Remember the civil war? Yeah, it wasn't fought to free slaves but to keep the union together. Even Lincoln suggested to Frederick Douglas that blacks should return to Africa. But Douglas correctly told him that AAs had as much right to this nation as anybody. After the Civil War, AAs had to deal with another 100 years of illegal discrimination, lynching, etc...The Civil Rights movement was extremely violent. Yes, the rights of AAs came via bloodshed and sadness.
To think that everything was fine just because of the Civil Rights Act is very untrue. White America may feel that way, but the remnants of racism still exist today. It can even be seen in how the war on drugs is fought when possession of coke has a lighter sentence than crack.
I'm not trying to make excuses for AAs, but, as Obama, said, the pain is real and not just a figment of their imagination.
I find it rather amusing you give Wright a pass on his comments but are all over Buchanan for his inflamatory remarks. It shows me exactly where you're coming from.
To try and say that the civil war wasn't fought to end slavery just shows what a troll you are. Brother was killing brother in that war to end slavery, it's just that simple. My Great-grandfaather fought in that war. He came to this country as a boy of 12 so your talking to a white person whose ancestors had nothing to do with slavery, in fact they helped end it so take your guilt trip and lay it on somebody who deserves it, because the shoe doesn't fit here. In fact it doesn't fit the vast majority of white people these days, it's not the evil rich white people oppressing the blacks, it the evil rich people and they're oppressing everybody they can. They could care less what color you are.
Do I think most black people have it harder then most white people? Yes, but the way to change things isn't sitting around bitching and moaning about the past, it's to forgive and forget and then do the best with what you have. That's the realChristian way and that's why I don't support "black value" churches and any politicans that belong to them. They are promising something they can't deliver because their concept is flawed from the start and I think it's only a matter of time until it blows up in their faces.