poopaskoopa
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I've often found that entire strip of Glenwood Ave is douchey, and I see that it hasn't changed much.
The organization represents everything you don't.
Halik's news piece didnt own anybody and i posted why up above. try to keep up.
yea so. we are talking about a bar in the US, with US laws. why would you bring canada into this??
What's completely wrong? A business can refuse access/service to anyone they want. They can make up any excuse they want. You think they are going to say its because he is black, I think not.
why?
Yet there are numerous pictures of blacks, and other races besides whites in the bar. Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. One sided article is one sided.
Yes, you did make your way here.
pathetic.
it was settled OUT of court mostly likely it was the cheapest route. 35K is chump change compared to all the legal fees on top of the fine IF they lost and i dont think they would have. they were NOT found guilty because it never went to trial.
the NY DA over stepped on this case.
explain. what do you know of the masons charter? what are you judging me by?
Yes b/c it never could be conducted by select individuals that work there.
LOL. Nothing in the law prevents someone from being a racist or discriminating.
Something you liberals should figure out. No law makes being a racist illegal and good luck enforcing one for discriminating against someone on private property. Unless there is a policy or signage that says no blacks allowed, they can kick out anyone they want and give whatever reason they want.
In this case, how are you going to prove they kicked him out simply because he was black? Simple, you can't. A confession is about all that's going to prove that and good luck getting that.
So then the picture with the sign that says "We serve whites only" is just a stock photo there to be inflammatory, and it isn't a racist bar, just a couple people that work there are racist, and there is no policy of keeping out black people?
Not sure if serious. I hope no one believe that photo is from the bar.
And if someone is discriminated, how do they know it's just an individual telling me that it's member's only when it's not or it's the bar's unwritten policy. Guess what, I"m going to blame the bar.
Actually, it seems it's really trivial to find out whether a bar has a racist policy or not in that article halik owned you with:
Also, a bar in canada was caught doing this because one of the black patrons used his cell phone camera to record the bouncers not admitting them and making excuses over their clothing, but white patrons had the same clothing and were getting let in. It's really really easy to figure it out. You're wrong, deal with it.
False. Do you want me to start quoting Title VII? I'm willing to bet it's also illegal for private establishments to discriminate on the basis of race under NC state law as well.
If you do something that subjects you to civil damages, you have broken the law. I'm not quite sure why you think that only criminal statutes can be "broken."
So you're saying that anyone can get away with racial discrimination so long as they use a non-racial pretext and do not admit to it? Here's a little primer on how you prove discrimination in cases like this: bring in other minorities to testify they were excluded, then bring in numerous white people to say they were let in despite not conforming with the rules used to exclude the minorities. For example, claiming to exclude people for wearing a t-shirt, but white people who wear t-shirts are let in. Or falsely claiming that a membership is required when white people are let in without "membership" and in fact there is no such thing as membership.
It isn't rocket science. You don't need a confession. Showing a pattern will do.
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No, but it was used to help paint the picture they want in your head when reading the "article". "Racist Bar", that has lots of pictures from it with people of all ethnicities makes me think that the people complaining are full of shit, and trying to make this into a story that it is not.
Maybe the several pictures of people of many ethnicities in the bar? Apparently it is not the bar's "unwritten rule".
And some racists are more subtle than others, especially nowadays with laws protection against discrimination. Group of 6(5 white, 1 black) they allow in b/c not allowing the black person would create suspicion but group of 3 blacks, they don't using some lame excuse. It's not all black and white.
We'll probably never know since there's only one side represented here.
Like a moths to a flame. The same cast of chacracters who dont understand US history and how recent in our history racial animous was. But hey, these threads are useful for pointing out the bigots.
So are you saying you're using the same base to argue from this time and it's OK but not in the other situation?You're now bemoaning the lack of two sided representation but in the TM thread, you've been parotting the self serving statements of George Zimmerman.
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So are you saying you're using the same base to argue from this time and it's OK but not in the other situation?You're now bemoaning the lack of two sided representation but in the TM thread, you've been parotting the self serving statements of George Zimmerman.
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And we are able to spot those that like to turn everything into a race issue and over sensationalize it for brownie points. Only if you people actually saw that you do more harm than good with this cry wolf bullshit. By calling every single thing involving a white vs. non white racist, you do everyone a disservice with this nonsense by diluting the issue. The media throws around the word racist so much that now it has no meaning anymore when they use it.
So you have witnessed this yourself then? You have more than hearsay and unsupported claims with which to back this up right? Or is it just the word of one person and unnamed others going along with it...So an issue where a black person is denied entry to a bar which has a history of doing the same is not one of racism? Do enlighten us when someone should say something is racism. Or do you just feel people should come and check with you first.