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ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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go to pro.coinbase.com

there should be instructions somewhere to move your account over. The pro version is faster, has more features, and has much, much cheaper transactions fees

Wow, that interface looks cool. Reminds me of the Thinkorswim interface for TD Ameritrade.
 

Arcadio

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2007
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I even made a separate contest out of it:


I guess that it's too late for a 2021 contest. Bummer.

I'm still waiting for the Coolcoin I was promised for winning that contest.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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I put 100% of my liquid net worth into Bitcoin in Sep-Nov at an average buy price of ~$13k. I fully expect the price the price to hit $150k this cycle as the institutions are coming with a wall of money, potentially in the trillions. I believe it will eventually overtake gold's market cap of $10T. I am 90/10 BTC/ETH. I don't like ETH but it's a hedge in case I'm wrong.
 
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ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Grr... right now, Ethereum's fee structure is messed up because of the inflated price. It just cost me $5 worth of Ethereum to send some Coolcoin tokens to Arcadio! That used to cost about 85 cents before.

I guess that I can add Ethereum into the "Good as a store of value, sucks as an actual currency" pile of crypto?
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Grr... right now, Ethereum's fee structure is messed up because of the inflated price. It just cost me $5 worth of Ethereum to send some Coolcoin tokens to Arcadio! That used to cost about 85 cents before.

I guess that I can add Ethereum into the "Good as a store of value, sucks as an actual currency" pile of crypto?
If you game theory this out into the future, I personally do not think it is good for ETH. High gas prices, and the ETH2 "solution" through PoS which is in theory would drop gas prices to near zero, is why I am long term bearish on it. High gas price is bad for ETH because it's inefficient. Future low gas price on ETH2 is bad for ETH because you won't need as much ETH.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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guess i should've sold at 40$k lol

though i'm only holding onto this thing in the off chance that it becomes worth millions, so maybe i should just pull a ponyo and keep it till i can retire from it
 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
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I think it's less bitcoin going up as it is the dollar rapidly losing value due to massive printing of free money.
What is the "it" in your scenario?

Because I'm pretty sure no other asset has gained 400% in a year versus the dollar aside from maybe TSLA. The dollar sucks, for sure, but we aren't seeing $200 barrels of oil or USD tanking in FOREX.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Grr... right now, Ethereum's fee structure is messed up because of the inflated price. It just cost me $5 worth of Ethereum to send some Coolcoin tokens to@ Arcadio! That used to cost about 85 cents before.

I guess that I can add Ethereum into the "Good as a store of value, sucks as an actual currency" pile of crypto?
Thank you! (That's how I make MY money, off of ETH transaction fees... at least, in part.)
 
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JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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What is the "it" in your scenario?

Because I'm pretty sure no other asset has gained 400% in a year versus the dollar aside from maybe TSLA. The dollar sucks, for sure, but we aren't seeing $200 barrels of oil or USD tanking in FOREX.
It's actually both (value of bitcoin going up and the dollar going down from money printing). More and more people are realizing what bitcoin is with regards to its potential as money, and the network effect will make it even more valuable perpetuating the virtuous cycle. I think think it's very early. I do think it has the potential to be $20-50T market cap over 5-10 years, which would give it $1-2 million in USD.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Don't be this guy. ;)

 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
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It's actually both (value of bitcoin going up and the dollar going down from money printing).
Unless an actual USD inflation figure moves within 10 ballparks the way that BTC moves, then no, saying BTC going up because USD is going down is silly.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I can say that I wish I didn't go as gung ho on trading in some BTC for alt-coins a while back. I still have some BTC, but it's also safe to say that the alt-coins (unsurprisingly) didn't all do as well. Some of them are doing fine... not as well as BTC (yet again, unsurprisingly), but okay.

Bought some Etherium and XRP. Hearing "things" on Twitter :)

What'd you end up doing with your Ripple? I've had some lying around for a while now, and I've been debating what to do in regard to the SEC lawsuit. Coinbase is about to remove it from trading in a couple days, and the only way it'll have value is if the lawsuit fails.
 

Noid

Platinum Member
Sep 20, 2000
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SEC .... accuses " the company and executives sold $1.3 billion worth of unregistered securities. " " unlicensed securities "

Who registers and licenses securities ? ... the SEC ?
If the SEC wins ... " company and executives " pay 1.3 billion back to investors ?
( is the "money" really there ... ? )
 
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Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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SEC .... accuses " the company and executives sold $1.3 billion worth of unregistered securities. " " unlicensed securities "

Who registers and licenses securities ? ... the SEC ?
If the SEC wins ... " company and executives " pay 1.3 billion back to investors ?
( is the "money" really there ... ? )

Doesn't the entire thing hinge upon whether it's a security or a digital currency? Awkwardly, as much as it seems like Ripple wants it to be more of the latter, in regard to cryptocurrency, most people treat it like the former. I think the biggest issue there is the lack of stable pricing in crypto. Using USD as an example, why would I use a dollar right now if I thought it would be worth $5 or $10 or even $20 in just a couple years?
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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I can say that I wish I didn't go as gung ho on trading in some BTC for alt-coins a while back. I still have some BTC, but it's also safe to say that the alt-coins (unsurprisingly) didn't all do as well. Some of them are doing fine... not as well as BTC (yet again, unsurprisingly), but okay.



What'd you end up doing with your Ripple? I've had some lying around for a while now, and I've been debating what to do in regard to the SEC lawsuit. Coinbase is about to remove it from trading in a couple days, and the only way it'll have value is if the lawsuit fails.
Never got any Ripple.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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I thought you said that you bought XRP? Unless I'm mistaken, that's Ripple?
Oh.,..LOL...didn't know that :D

Anyway, I ended up selling it when the price leveled to my buying price after a month or so. Didn't seem like it was going anywhere.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Oh.,..LOL...didn't know that :D

Anyway, I ended up selling it when the price leveled to my buying price after a month or so. Didn't seem like it was going anywhere.

I can’t even recall what I traded it at as it was a couple years ago at this point. I think it was around 20-30 cents per XRP? I think my mistake was playing the game by trading BTC for... well, anything but maybe ETH. I was trying to avoid spending real money on other coins, but I think — like most — I was trying to find the next LTC/ETH. Although, given that BTC is almost always a sure bet (if you’re willing to wait years), it was arguably silly of me.

Although, it is worth noting that I’d only trade maybe $100 worth of BTC, so it wasn’t that bad. :p
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Lately, it seems that Ethereum is rallying higher and Bitcoin has been sticking around the $35,000 range.

That's good for Ethereum investors, I guess. Not great for Ethereum users, because the transaction fees are insanely high now.