Bisexuality in the year 1000 BC

[OBLAMA2009]

everybody's gay every once and awhile

uh, no they arent...

 

[Ausm]

:\ They should read their Bibles more.

LMAO!!

 

[Ausm]

The Romans tolerated homosexuals/bisexuals.


Then their empire fell.

Yeah, I think that was a major contributing factor for their demise...

 

[Greenman]

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...carvings_show_explicit_copulation.single.html

This should put to rest any silly and stupid notion that homosexual sex was a modern media/cultural creation.

Caveman porn!

What idiot thought homosexuality was a new invention? Related question, why does it matter? Another related question, why do you care what the idiot thinks?

Very touchy and possibly insulting question, why are you defined by where you put your dick?

 

[OBLAMA2009]

wheres the gayness? on the far left i see a dude porking a chick

 

[SolMiester]

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...carvings_show_explicit_copulation.single.html

This should put to rest any silly and stupid notion that homosexual sex was a modern media/cultural creation.

Is this just some sick individuals interpretation or do they have written captions?, after all, most people see art in a different way....

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

So they're trying to say the aliens in the picture brought homosexuality to earth?

 

[SparkyJJO]

People have been perverted for thousands of years. What else is new? Doesn't make it "ok" or "natural."

There are a LOT of things people have done in history that is anywhere between eyebrow raising to downright disgusting. That doesn't make any modern iteration of it any less bad.

 

[sourn]

People have been perverted for thousands of years. What else is new? Doesn't make it "ok" or "natural."

There are a LOT of things people have done in history that is anywhere between eyebrow raising to downright disgusting. That doesn't make any modern iteration of it any less bad.

While i agree with the sentiment, being gay is not bad/wrong other then from a religious point of view.

Think logically about it. Who does it hurt when it's two adults (consensual). No one, other then the religious nut jobs/bigots. It's sure not hurting the species any.

If anything it's helping the species, by slowing down birth rates (even though i would guess it's probably a tiny amount).

As far as idiots that try to bring up why empires fall.. Well.. They're exactly that idiots.

 

[Sonikku]

Aren't some of the gladiators in Spartacus gay?

Sounds like their fate is sealed then.

 

[nehalem256]

What idiot thought homosexuality was a new invention? Related question, why does it matter? Another related question, why do you care what the idiot thinks?

Actually I think the real question is if it is okay for you to use cave paintings to support homosexuality does that make it okay for Christians to use the bible to condemn it?

 

[SolMiester]

While i agree with the sentiment, being gay is not bad/wrong other then from a religious point of view.

Think logically about it. Who does it hurt when it's two adults (consensual). No one, other then the religious nut jobs/bigots. It's sure not hurting the species any.

If anything it's helping the species, by slowing down birth rates (even though i would guess it's probably a tiny amount).

As far as idiots that try to bring up why empires fall.. Well.. They're exactly that idiots.

I would say that is just your point of view, certainly the younger generation has had it's acceptance drummed into them, but that doesn't make it right either.

 

[Whiskey16]

People have been perverted for thousands of years. What else is new? Doesn't make it "ok" or "natural."

There are a LOT of things people have done in history that is anywhere between eyebrow raising to downright disgusting. That doesn't make any modern iteration of it any less bad.

Condemnation of such a group, dehumanising them, and labelling them as "bad" is mightily uncivilised and immoral of you.

Bigotry against homosexuality remains. Bigots such as yourself sadly exist, and should never again feel freedom to express and advocate that bigotry without facing the valid social stigma and condemnation for your anti-social and destructive views.

 

[Whiskey16]

I would say that is just your point of view, certainly the younger generation has had it's acceptance drummed into them, but that doesn't make it right either.

Your bigotry and dehumanising attitude is wrong.

As you recognise, your puritan and socially destructive thoughts are waning as youth are more aware, accepting, and civilised than bigots such as yourself.

 

[SolMiester]

Your bigotry and dehumanising attitude is wrong.

As you recognise, your puritan and socially destructive thoughts are waning as youth are more aware, accepting, and civilised than bigots such as yourself.

Rubbish, just brainwashed, although I notice you don't seem to think people have a right to their opinions...I have not dehumanised anyone on this thread..
I haven't actually said a word against them...

 

[Joepublic2]

I would say that is just your point of view, certainly the younger generation has had it's acceptance drummed into them, but that doesn't make it right either.

As a member of that generation that on average is less capable than any before it of critical thought and introspection I would have to agree. See...

Your bigotry and dehumanising attitude is wrong.

As you recognise, your puritan and socially destructive thoughts are waning as youth are more aware, accepting, and civilised aligned with mass media/mass culture than bigots such as yourself.

You expressed an opinion that wasn't OPTION X so you were immediately attacked as a supporter of OPTION Y, because if you're not X you surely must be Y. In the past, or so I am told, you could still walk around a college campus and get a myriad of different opinions with regards to socially controversial topics. Now you only get two, three tops if it's a designated wedge issue in current political circles. If it's a topic that's been "settled" long ago by THE CULTURE than A IS TRUE; B-Z how abhorrent, you monster! Most born into the digital age only understand binary because that's all they've really been exposed to.

 

[Broheim]

What the fuck goes on in your head? Seriously? This is what you believe other people think?

The old testament was created to civilize people because there were times when men would fuck anything with a hole.

...and that has changed?

 

[BoomerD]

...and that has changed?

Yeah...I thought he meant Saturday nights...:whiste:





(or Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday nights as well...Sunday nights too)

 

[zsdersw]

No one I've ever heard of thinks any of this is new.

From Genesis

Well, the way things are usually said by folks who have the belief I mentioned is that the sexual revolution of the 1960-70s started making more people homosexual, and that if it weren't for that and modern media's portrayals of homosexuality very few if any people would be homosexual.

That's what I meant by "some people think homosexuality is a modern media/cultural creation".

 

[zsdersw]

Actually I think the real question is if it is okay for you to use cave paintings to support homosexuality does that make it okay for Christians to use the bible to condemn it?

You should note that nowhere in anything I've said do I make a value judgement about what is being portrayed. It's merely evidence to those who didn't or refuse to believe... that homosexuality has existed long before modern society.

 

[zsdersw]

Related question, why does it matter?

Why do you matter? Why does any thread on here matter?

Another related question, why do you care what the idiot thinks?

Idiots often have far too much power/influence than they deserve. They "float to the top" quite easily and quickly.

Very touchy and possibly insulting question, why are you defined by where you put your dick?

Who said I was? You.. are the only one I've seen say that. And you're not an authority (or even knowledgeable) on anything related to me.

 

[zsdersw]

evidence of bisexuality not found, sorry...

If you bother to read the article, you can see they're referring to characteristics of both sexes... cross-dressing, etc. This isn't typically what people refer to as "bisexual", but having a penis and dressing like a female is showcasing characteristics of both sexes.

even if the was, does that make it okay just because some primitive subhumans did it? imma gist sayin'...

Why do you and nehalem assume I'm saying anything about anything being OK or not OK? If I was, I would've said so in the OP. Nowhere in the OP or any other of my posts in this thread do I say anything about something being OK or not OK.

 

[nehalem256]

It's merely evidence to those who didn't or refuse to believe... that homosexuality has existed long before modern society.

Which would be why the 2000+ year old bible condemns it. Or are you arguing the bible was condemning things that didn't exist yet?

Well, the way things are usually said by folks who have the belief I mentioned is that the sexual revolution of the 1960-70s started making more people homosexual, and that if it weren't for that and modern media's portrayals of homosexuality very few if any people would be homosexual.

That's what I meant by "some people think homosexuality is a modern media/cultural creation".

I think some people believe that modern media/culture encourages homosexuality. This is far different from saying they created it.

 

[nehalem256]

This isn't typically what people refer to as "bisexual", but having a penis and dressing like a female is showcasing characteristics of both sexes.

Some of the people also appear to have 2 penises. Perhaps it is best not to take the picture too literally.

 

[ichy]

The Romans tolerated homosexuals/bisexuals.

This is a total threadjack, but...

The Romans had a different attitude towards this than we do today. Their view was more along the lines of if you were a man it didn't matter who you were fucking, it just mattered that you weren't the one being fucked. Being a top wasn't really considered a gay act.