Bisexuality in the year 1000 BC

[Londo_Jowo]

Some of the people also appear to have 2 penises. Perhaps it is best not to take the picture too literally.

Two of them has a penis growing out of their elbows and one has a penis growing out of their rear.

 

[nehalem256]

Two of them has a penis growing out of their elbows and one has a penis growing out of their rear.

Well I guess that does give a new definition to the word bisexual :awe:

 

[Whiskey16]

As a member of that generation that on average is less capable than any before it of critical thought and introspection I would have to agree. See...



You expressed an opinion that wasn't OPTION X so you were immediately attacked as a supporter of OPTION Y, because if you're not X you surely must be Y. In the past, or so I am told, you could still walk around a college campus and get a myriad of different opinions with regards to socially controversial topics. Now you only get two, three tops if it's a designated wedge issue in current political circles. If it's a topic that's been "settled" long ago by THE CULTURE than A IS TRUE; B-Z how abhorrent, you monster! Most born into the digital age only understand binary because that's all they've really been exposed to.

Well, thank you for that bit of nothingness in defence of bigotry.

No. One is not free in society to express an opinion but be immune from facing critiques and repercussions for what they advocate.

Those that wish to declare that homosexuality is "wrong" or "bad" freely open themselves and their opinion up for the valid criticism and condemnation that they and their expression are that of bigotry and, thankfully, of a shrinking anachronistic part of society.

The more such socially divisive and hateful bigotry faces condemnation, the quicker such bigots will be marginalised, with either their views grow up to the tolerable and legal civil rights levels of society or via attrition their relative numbers decrease along with their poor influence against civilisation. Some will remain anti-social and stubbornly hold out against the moral progression of acceptable change, but they are an ever shrinking minority.

 

[zsdersw]

Which would be why the 2000+ year old bible condemns it. Or are you arguing the bible was condemning things that didn't exist yet?

The Bible is full of things that may not have existed.

I think some people believe that modern media/culture encourages homosexuality. This is far different from saying they created it.

To us, yes, but not to them... and their retarded beliefs are what I was talking about.

 

[nehalem256]

To us, yes, but not to them... and their retarded beliefs are what I was talking about.

No one believes homosexuality didn't exist in the past. If it didn't exist

(1) There would be no need for the bible to condemn it.

(2) It obviously wouldn't have caused the fall of the Roman Empire

It seems that most if not all people who oppose homosexuality clearly believe that it existed in the past even without mentioning the Chinese cave painting.

 

[zsdersw]

No one believes homosexuality didn't exist in the past. If it didn't exist

(1) There would be no need for the bible to condemn it.

(2) It obviously wouldn't have caused the fall of the Roman Empire

It seems that most if not all people who oppose homosexuality clearly believe that it existed in the past even without mentioning the Chinese cave painting.

The people I'm referring to don't make the distinction between creating it and encouraging it.

 

[Greenman]

Well, thank you for that bit of nothingness in defence of bigotry.

No. One is not free in society to express an opinion but be immune from facing critiques and repercussions for what they advocate.

Those that wish to declare that homosexuality is "wrong" or "bad" freely open themselves and their opinion up for the valid criticism and condemnation that they and their expression are that of bigotry and, thankfully, of a shrinking anachronistic part of society.

The more such socially divisive and hateful bigotry faces condemnation, the quicker such bigots will be marginalised, with either their views grow up to the tolerable and legal civil rights levels of society or via attrition their relative numbers decrease along with their poor influence against civilisation. Some will remain anti-social and stubbornly hold out against the moral progression of acceptable change, but they are an ever shrinking minority.

You make a big deal out of acceptance of others, but when someone doesn't share your convictions you call him a bigot, declare him an enemy and a target, then claim a moral victory. I don't see your form of bigotry as being in any way superior to any other.

 

[pauldun170]

Two of them has a penis growing out of their elbows and one has a penis growing out of their rear.

Maybe they have a penis on the elbow to get around the elbow\ear rule?
They scratched their ears with their elbow cock.

 

[zsdersw]

Maybe they have a penis on the elbow to get around the elbow\ear rule?
They scratched their ears with their elbow cock.

Penis on the elbow, huh... perhaps that's how the "funny bone" got its name.

 

[pauldun170]

Penis on the elbow, huh... perhaps that's how the "funny bone" got its name.

Fortunately, elbow cocks never took off.
Since these were in China, we'd have to listen to every single guy from Hong Kong go on and on about "The Chiness were the FIRST to have elbow cocks and they were the BEST elbow cocks...etc etc etc"

 

[nehalem256]

The people I'm referring to don't make the distinction between creating it and encouraging it.

Which people are you talking about?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Maybe they have a penis on the elbow to get around the elbow\ear rule?
They scratched their ears with their elbow cock.

After looking at the picture again I have to wonder if this wasn't some dance to celebrate killing the two animals (possibly tigers). Some of the dancers had balls attached to a rope and could swing them with a rotation of their bodies or hips. Also I wonder if the reason you see what appear to be an erect penis maybe similar to the penis protectors seen in other Southeast Asian countries, these are even seen today.

 

[zsdersw]

Which people are you talking about?

Deeply religious and deeply ignorant baby-boomers, mostly. I've heard it from people all my life in casual conversation.

 

[pauldun170]

After looking at the picture again I have to wonder if this wasn't some dance to celebrate killing the two animals (possibly tigers). Some of the dancers had balls attached to a rope and could swing them with a rotation of their bodies or hips. Also I wonder if the reason you see what appear to be an erect penis maybe similar to the penis protectors seen in other Southeast Asian countries, these are even seen today.

Agree BUT I refuse to go into further detail about the imagery\symbolism in the pic OR read any farther into the link until proof of titties in the link.

Until then its elbow cocks.


Please do not take this as a personally

 

[kage69]

The Romans tolerated homosexuals/bisexuals.


Then their empire fell.

I hope that was sarcasm.

That's like saying 'some of the offices inside the Trade Center may have had questionable accounting practices. Then the buildings were hit by hijacked jetliners.'


Calling that "simplistic to the absurd" is overly generous, I really hope your understanding of Rome is deeper than that.

 

[nehalem256]

Deeply religious and deeply ignorant baby-boomers, mostly. I've heard it from people all my life in casual conversation.

So the same people that think the bible condemns homosexuality think homosexuality was invented by the 20th Century media?

What you are saying doesn't make sense. I can only assume you are severely twisting what they are saying.

 

[zsdersw]

So the same people that think the bible condemns homosexuality think homosexuality was invented by the 20th Century media?

What you are saying doesn't make sense. I can only assume you are severely twisting what they are saying.

I think you vastly underestimate how ignorant people can be... and are.

Obviously you haven't experienced much, if any, of rural America.

 

[Whiskey16]

You make a big deal out of acceptance of others, but when someone doesn't share your convictions you call him a bigot, declare him an enemy and a target, then claim a moral victory. I don't see your form of bigotry as being in any way superior to any other.

It is your gross failing for being incapable of distinguishing between those who prejudicially vilify and denounce people for being homosexual and those who take the affirmative stance to denounce and condemn those hateful actions.

As such it is not bigotry to recognise those bigots. Bigotry is a distasteful word to describe distasteful actions.

That you wish to spend so much time to rally against my recognition of bigots rather than see the ills in their actions says plenty.

 

[OlafSicky]

I haven't read the thread but how is that drawing proof of homosexuality? I don't see any sex acts in it.

 

[werepossum]

:\ They should read their Bibles more.

LOL /thread

SNIP
"The last full scene contains no obvious women at all, though the floating bodies on the upper right may be female. Ithyphallic males and a bisexual take part in a frenzied dance. One male seems to have his arm around another while a loner near the bottom seems to be masturbating as a parade of tiny infants streams from his erection. It looks a lot like a frat party."

SNIP

Dude, what kind of messed up frat did you attend?

 

[zsdersw]

Dude, what kind of messed up frat did you attend?

I didn't.. but perhaps the article's author did!

 

[Greenman]

It is your gross failing for being incapable of distinguishing between those who prejudicially vilify and denounce people for being homosexual and those who take the affirmative stance to denounce and condemn those hateful actions.

As such it is not bigotry to recognise those bigots. Bigotry is a distasteful word to describe distasteful actions.

That you wish to spend so much time to rally against my recognition of bigots rather than see the ills in their actions says plenty.

Well, yes it does say plenty. It say's that I don't care for your form of hate more than any other.
Just an FYI, no one has to like, approve of, or condone, anyone or group that bothers them. The one thing they are required to do is tolerate them, that's it.

 

[Joepublic2]

Well, thank you for that bit of nothingness in defence of bigotry.

No. One is not free in society to express an opinion but be immune from facing critiques and repercussions for what they advocate.

Those that wish to declare that homosexuality is "wrong" or "bad" freely open themselves and their opinion up for the valid criticism and condemnation that they and their expression are that of bigotry and, thankfully, of a shrinking anachronistic part of society.

The more such socially divisive and hateful bigotry faces condemnation, the quicker such bigots will be marginalised, with either their views grow up to the tolerable and legal civil rights levels of society or via attrition their relative numbers decrease along with their poor influence against civilisation. Some will remain anti-social and stubbornly hold out against the moral progression of acceptable change, but they are an ever shrinking minority.

Blah blah blah, OPPRESS THOSE WHO DON'T THINK AS I DO. I don't need to actually talk to you to know your opinions, I can just watch a 5 minute recap of the Colbert report.

 

[Whiskey16]

Well, yes it does say plenty. It say's that I don't care for your form of hate more than any other.
Just an FYI, no one has to like, approve of, or condone, anyone or group that bothers them. The one thing they are required to do is tolerate them, that's it.

Preducial bigotry against race, religion, national identity, and sexual persuasion is not tolerated by society and to the vast extent, within law.

Expressed hateful opinions are not sacrosanct against justified critique and condemnation. If you are offended by applicable charcterising language then do not offend.

Unfortunately there are those, such as yourself, upon this forum have tend to promote and defend prejudicial bigotry but have this innane persecution complex that lends themselves to twist that they are the prime targets of oppressive attack.

If one finds offense to being critiqued as a bigot, the cvilised solution is simple - stop portraying yourself as one.

 

[ShawnD1]

So does the guy having an erect penis towards an animal suggest that bestiality is normal and should be accepted by society too?

I was thinking that too :biggrin:

New rule: you can let animals fuck you, but you can't fuck animals. That horse in the Mr Hands video didn't seem too upset over killing that guy.