Bioshock Infinite [HardOCP] Review

[f1sherman]

Guru3d performance review Bioshock Infinite:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bioshock_infinite_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html

Benchmarking Bioshock Infinite via Average and Minimum fps fall on it's face in this game.
It's texture streaming, not rendering speed that is ultimately limiting your overall gameplay experience.

This guru3d page is much more telling.

 

[Jaydip]

This thread is hilarious.So people can't accept when NV wins in a GE title but they have no issues rejoicing the reverse? cheer- leading for one team isn't crime but I hoped to encounter adults not kids here.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Benchmarking Bioshock Infinite via Average and Minimum fps fall on it's face in this game.
It's texture streaming, not rendering speed that is ultimately limiting your overall gameplay experience.

This guru3d page is much more telling.

Dang, maybe AMD should get a new driver out before another month passes.

 

[wand3r3r]

This thread is hilarious.So people can't accept when NV wins in a GE title but they have no issues rejoicing the reverse? cheer- leading for one team isn't crime but I hoped to encounter adults not kids here.

I can accept it, and did. However the OP is just trying to troll further than the (slight) win of a game.

 

[Jaydip]

I can accept it, and did. However the OP is just trying to troll further than the (slight) win of a game.

Then isn't it better to ignore it? 680 and 7970 are ~1fps apart, calling it a win for one side is childish(no offense to anyone, it can simply be a human error)

 

[f1sherman]

Dang, maybe AMD should get a new driver out before another month passes.

Maybe it's not AMD's fault.
So many UE3 games come with incorrectly and far from ideal *.ini configuration files.
I am happy with my GTX 460 performance, but I would not mind another patch from Irrational Games tackling texture streaming.

If I had Titan i'd be like WTF Irrational I want whole map loaded in my VRAM

 

[bluesquare07]

Correct.

Can you explain to me what you would define as a big difference. To me, the difference between 14 frames when its 6x and 5x is large.

I can accept it, and did. However the OP is just trying to troll further than the (slight) win of a game.

slight? Its a big win for NV, not just on this title, but the last 4 major releases. It doesn't end at 7970 ghz vs 680, there are more cards than just those two to be tested.

You people are the ones who started to come at me with all these claims on how NV isn't faster, all i said was that NV was a lot faster in this game, which they are.

 

[bluesquare07]

I don't see what the op is even talking about. The min FPS is about 1 fps higher on nvidia. The max fps is higher, but in either case you will be above your monitor's refresh rate so who cares. A 1 fps difference isn't really a victory, it's essentially a tie.

1 fps is "a lot better", seriously?

Are you serious? I don't even know why i'm replying to this.

 

[birthdaymonkey]

I've played the first hour or so. Playing at 19x12, I find the game feels slow on my 670, especially with vsync on, whether I'm set to very high or ultra. It's fairly responsive with vsync off, but then of course there's the tearing.

The game seems creative and quite beautiful, but honestly I just can't seem to get into FPS anymore. All the running around and figuring out where to go next just gets tiresome. I've been having more fun playing Final Fantasy Dimensions on my phone.

The crummy performance on my upper-tier card is also disappointing.

 

[bluesquare07]

I've played the first hour or so. Playing at 19x12, I find the game feels slow on my 670, especially with vsync on, whether I'm set to very high or ultra. It's fairly responsive with vsync off, but then of course there's the tearing.

It seems very creative and quite beautiful, but honestly I just can't seem to get into FPS anymore. All the running around and figuring out where to go next just gets tiresome. The crummy performance on my upper-tier card is also underwhelming.

I have a 670 and the game runs perfectly. Don't know why you are having problems. Try adaptive vsync

 

[Chiropteran]

Are you serious? I don't even know why i'm replying to this.

Yes I am completely serious. I do not think a 1fps difference is even noticeable in real life. Do you think you could correctly pass a double-blind test showing a 1 fps difference?

I mean, if you want to say nvidia is slightly faster, I could buy that. But saying nvidia is "a lot" faster is a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[Rvenger]

Regarding Catalyst 13.5

This is what i was told.

Few more Crossfire profiles and optimizations vs the current 13.3 beta. It also has a new component that will reduce stuttering and frame time deviations generically across DX10/DX11 engines

http://www.overclock.net/t/1382725/catalyst-beta-13-4/20

 

[wand3r3r]

Regarding Catalyst 13.5







http://www.overclock.net/t/1382725/catalyst-beta-13-4/20

New thread time? (maybe this was meant for the 7990 thread?)

 

[bluesquare07]

Yes I am completely serious. I do not think a 1fps difference is even noticeable in real life. Do you think you could correctly pass a double-blind test showing a 1 fps difference?

I mean, if you want to say nvidia is slightly faster, I could buy that. But saying nvidia is "a lot" faster is a bit of an exaggeration.

Dude, there is a 4fps difference for the 680 vs 7970.
14 for both 7950 vs 670 and 660ti vs 7870. You don't think thats a noticeable difference?

 

[wand3r3r]

Being beat overall in what titles?
Took how long for AMD to catch up in performance to the 680. By then, everyone moved on from those games. Look at BF3 and how long it took AMD to catch up. Every game being released NV is performing better in. Sorry buddy, truth hurts.

You want me to start cherry picking titles that AMD wins in? Maybe your sponsor to provide you with the details next time.


Fine I'll bite. Running through a 670 mini review.


Alan Wake
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/alanwake_2560_1600.gif
Arkham city
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/arkhamcity_2560_1600.gif
BF3
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/bf3_2560_1600.gif
Crysis
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/crysis_2560_1600.gif
Crysis 2
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/crysis2_2560_1600.gif
Diablo 3
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/diablo3_2560_1600.gif
Far Cry 3
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/farcry3_2560_1600.gif
F1 12
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/f12012_2560_1600.gif
Hitman
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/hitman_2560_1600.gif
Max payne 3
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/maxpayne3_2560_1600.gif

Metro 2033
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/metro_2033_2560_1600.gif
Sleeping dogs
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/sleepingdogs_2560_1600.gif
Skyrim
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_Mini/images/skyrim_2560_1600.gif

7970 GHz is faster in almost every game they benched.

It looks you two managed to pull out basically the only games the 680 is faster in.

What a troll.

You must have "forgotten" to acknowledge this? The 680 being beat in the vast majority of games. Being you are so quick to discuss (cherry pick) the few the 680 matches or wins in.

 

[Chiropteran]

Dude, there is a 4fps difference for the 680 vs 7970.
14 for both 7950 vs 670 and 660ti vs 7870. You don't think thats a noticeable difference?

Did you look at the graph associated with those numbers?

At several points, the 7970 spikes at 90 fps while the 680 reaches 100 fps. At other points, the 7970 stops at 150 fps and the 680 offers 170 fps. The average is thrown off because the 680's max fps, above any monitors sync rate, is higher.

In real usage, you might as well cut the chart off at 60 fps, which both cards surpass 95% of the time. For the few spikes below 60fps, the 680 averages 1 fps better than the 7970. I do not think that is a noticeable difference, no.

 

[Rvenger]

New thread time? (maybe this was meant for the 7990 thread?)

If you want to go post a new thread with that info, go for it.

 

[mkmitch]

Someone should lock all you fanboys in a room and equip you with compasses and protractors and not let anyone out until you either bore each to death or you end up singing cumbia. This continual arguing is both juvenile and nonproductive. Grow up.

 

[badb0y]

I see nothing wrong with this thread..... It just seems like 7970 Ghz, 7970, 680, 670, and 7950 are pretty much right next to each other in performance.

 

[SirPauly]

What is surprising though is how efficient the GK-104 is and still competing with AMD's higher end core. AMD sku's released with higher clocks, never settle drivers, Gaming Evolved titles and nVidia still competes solidly with efficiency instead of a more brute force like past offerings.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nothing wrong with the OPs post, perfectly legit. If AMD was ahead in the benches I doubt the 'troll' accusation would have been thrown.

p.s. Having said that I probably wouldnt have used the words "lot better", knowing that it has the potential to trigger a religious war here.

Bingo...

Pro NV = troll
Pro AMD = best post ever

Bioshock isn't the most graphically demanding game, if you haven't noticed.
2GB of vram should be enough for 2560.

Bioshock Infinite uses all 2GB of memory at 1080p if you haven't noticed btw.

I can play both sides when I see something askew.

 

[BrentJ]

hardocp tests the HD 7950 boost at stock power control of 0% which means clock throttling. anybody who runs a HD 7950 boost would run at max power control of +20% and will make sure the card runs at 925 mhz even without any overclocking.

You seem to be misinformed, we've never had a problem with our 7950 Boost throttling its clocks. It runs in-game at the proper frequencies for a stock 7950 Boost. We make sure all our cards are running at the right speeds before starting any review. If we were to see throttling, we'd mention it.

 

[BrentJ]

speak for yourself. linus is not running a website and is not dependent on ad revenue or sponsors. his reviews are quite popular. hardocp is not the only site testing games. hardocp is known to be biased towards Nvidia.

In every review we are called bias towards NV, and bias towards AMD, I guess if you are biased toward both at the same time you are doing something right.

Sorry, no bias exists here, I have loyalty only to our readers to present the facts as they are and provide useful gaming performance information.

 

[BrentJ]

You posted an [H] article. That explains everything.


You missed this part of the article too:




Not that it matters but I am sorry, no 2gb GTX 680 will overtake a 7970 once it starts hitting the VRAM wall.

You aren't going to hit the 2GB VRAM wall in BioShock Infinite. Not that demanding of a game, and with only FXAA support, that lessens it even more.

 

[blackened23]

You aren't going to hit the 2GB VRAM wall in BioShock Infinite. Not that demanding of a game, and with only FXAA support, that lessens it even more.

Yeah, thank you for stating this. Many people attribute the "hitching" that occurs now and then to VRAM and it isn't that - the UE3 engine just old and clunky and not entirely suited to modern hardware. Same thing happens in Batman: AC on occassion.

Bioshock Infinite is also a fantastic game so any hiccups are completely forgive-able, IMO. Also looking forward to the time that games begin to use UE4.