Binge/Excessive Drinking

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: davestar
the american definition of binge drinking is what i (and others) are referring to: ~5+ drinks in a night.

the only time i'd look down on someone for his drinking is if he's vomiting on himself at a bar or otherwise harming/bothering others.

People are talking about real binge drinking. 5 drinks is what you drink before you go out drinking.

Before the media decided to make it a buzz phrase, binge drinking was getting black out, piss your pants, funnel in the mouth, 2 minute keg stand drunk. Now for some reason it's 5 drinks or more in a night.

 

[Deeko]

hahahahaha, dude, are you serious? Did you really just try to "shoot me down" by saying that in alcohol-related deaths, if alcohol hadn't been involved, the death wouldn't have occurred? NO SHIT! That's the most obvious statement anyone could have ever made. Its like saying if my heart hadn't stopped beating, I wouldn't had that dang heart attack! Look it up, in cases where you don't have a heart attack, the heart is still beating!

I'm not denying that 'binge drinking' has caused death on quite a few occasions. I'm simply saying that A) You greatly exaggerate the chance of this happening. Your posts make it seem that death is inevitable if you binge drink, B) The fact that the positives are 0 or negative on the opportunity cost scale (how can something be a negative as a positive? wouldn't that just make it a negative if you're doing a pros/cons chart?) and C) People that binge drink deny that there is any risk. I'm saying these things are not necessarily true.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: ahurtt

You are a total hand-job buddy. . .Here it is again. . .what I am saying is If you BINGE drink (meaning you are sloppy shitfaced drunk) you are MORE likely to kill yourself or someone else. Look me in the eye with a straight face and tell me that is not a fact.

I could make the same argument about somebody dicking around with a cell phone while driving.

Oh jeebus. . .don't even get me started on that . . .LOL

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: Farang
The best nights of my life have been when I was drinking excessively.

Good, keep it up. There is a good chance the last night of your life will also be one when you were drinking excessively.

because drinking increases your chance of dying? Give me a break

are you serious? this is pretty quantifiable.

<--excessive drinker, btw. so don't give me any crap about being prudish.

then go ahead and do it. Please tell me how I'm more likely to die on a day when I'm drinking than any other day. Do most people die while drinking than when sober? Take drunk driving out of it since I don't do it.

Pass out and drown in your own vomit.
Fall down a flight of stairs.
Walk out in front of a car you didn't bother to look and see because you were faced.
Piss off the wrong guy and get thrown through a plate glass window.
Pass out smoking in bed and burn your house down.

All these are only an infinitesimally small number of ways in which actual drunk people really have actually been killed. I could sit here all day long and come up with probably 1000 other things that could happen to kill you that have a far greater chance of occurring if you are walking around with impaired judgement, balance, and coordination. Yes, I'll concede. . .if you sit in a recliner in a padded room and drink yourself silly you are very likely to come out of it with little more than a severe hangover. Except for the passing out and drowning in your own vomit bit. . .that one could still get you.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: jandrews
lmao, you can tell who never drinks because they get blinded and brainwashed by the MADD commercials, stop being so uptight baby.

I have drank more in my lifetime than you will drink in 5 lifetimes probably. I've been there, done that, and I gotta say, looking back I can't think of a single way in which the experience enriched my life or the lives of any of the people I knew then or whom I know now. Binge drinking is plain stupid. I can say that not because I never drank before. I can say that from experience. Lots and lots of experience.

so it seems you're coming from a standpoint of someone who doesn't know how to stop at the reasonable level. no need to generalize your experience.

go to any city on a Friday or Saturday night and look for the most successful/well-rounded/sociable/educated/etc people - they're probably out drinking at a restaurant or bar. it's something that's been happening since ancient Greece. do you think Plato and Aristotle were teetotalers? no chance.

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT BINGE DRINKING! What part of the thread topic did you NOT understand?

the american definition of binge drinking is what i (and others) are referring to: ~5+ drinks in a night.

the only time i'd look down on someone for his drinking is if he's vomiting on himself at a bar or otherwise harming/bothering others.

You may consider ~5 drinks binge drinking. I don't think real binge drinking starts until you get closer to drinking a fifth. I guess it's all relative to ones tolerance though. I guess what really matters is how impaired you are.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Deeko
hahahahaha, dude, are you serious? Did you really just try to "shoot me down" by saying that in alcohol-related deaths, if alcohol hadn't been involved, the death wouldn't have occurred? NO SHIT! That's the most obvious statement anyone could have ever made. Its like saying if my heart hadn't stopped beating, I wouldn't had that dang heart attack! Look it up, in cases where you don't have a heart attack, the heart is still beating!

I'm not denying that 'binge drinking' has caused death on quite a few occasions. I'm simply saying that A) You greatly exaggerate the chance of this happening. Your posts make it seem that death is inevitable if you binge drink, B) The fact that the positives are 0 or negative on the opportunity cost scale (how can something be a negative as a positive? wouldn't that just make it a negative if you're doing a pros/cons chart?) and C) People that binge drink deny that there is any risk. I'm saying these things are not necessarily true.

I said "benefits" not "positives" and I never used the term "opportunity cost." That is an economics term. You used that term. Not me. In fact, you have been assuming or incorrectly inferring a lot of things I have not actually said. Whether or not I greatly exaggerate the chance of dying due to binge drinking is irrelevant. My only point is that it is a stupid risk to take AT ALL. It's like playing Russian Roulette but instead of having only 6 chambers with 1 bullet. . .maybe you have 100000 chambers and 1 bullet. . .Does it really matter? If you were given the choice of playing or not playing and there were no negative or positive repercussions at all for choosing either to play or not to play and simply walking away, would you pick up the revolver?

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Pass out and drown in your own vomit.
Fall down a flight of stairs.
Walk out in front of a car you didn't bother to look and see because you were faced.
Piss off the wrong guy and get thrown through a plate glass window.
Pass out smoking in bed and burn your house down.

any could happen during a regular day and are not more probable with alcohol.(except the stupid vomit thing. What's that kill, like 2 people a year?) Wouldn't pissing off the wrong guy happen more often if you're just an asshole rather than happily drunk? Wouldn't the smoking be the cause in the last example rather than drinking?

You're reaaaaaaaaally reaching with these.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Well, why post as much as you have in this topic, if you don't care? What do you think is more effective, a bunch of generalized, grossly exaggerated statements, or an actual account of something that happened?

Honestly? I'm at work with nothing better to do at the moment.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Pass out and drown in your own vomit.
Fall down a flight of stairs.
Walk out in front of a car you didn't bother to look and see because you were faced.
Piss off the wrong guy and get thrown through a plate glass window.
Pass out smoking in bed and burn your house down.

any could happen during a regular day and are not more probable with alcohol.(except the stupid vomit thing. What's that kill, like 2 people a year?) Wouldn't pissing off the wrong guy happen more often if you're just an asshole rather than happily drunk? Wouldn't the smoking be the cause in the last example rather than drinking?

You're reaaaaaaaaally reaching with these.

No. . .the passing out because you were drunk is what caused you to let the cigarette burn your house down. Otherwise I'd have said "fall asleep." But I didn't. I said "Pass out." Was reading comprehension 101 not a class you did well in? If you weren't drunk you wouldn't pass out. . .nor would you likely be stupidly smoking in bed to begin with. And about this happily drunk thing. . .YOU are the only one who thinks you are "happily drunk." I've met this guy before. I've been this guy before. Trust me. This guy is annoying the shit out of all the non-faced people around him.

I really don't understand how you can NOT see how the things I listed would be more probable to happen to you if you were really drunk. I can probably count the number of times I've fallen down/tripped while sober in my life on one hand. If I had to count the number of times while I was really drunk, I'd probably need all the fingers and toes of all the players on the <insert your favorite football team here>.

 

[Deeko]

Haha you're right, opportunity cost is the economic terminology for 'risk/reward' which you did INDEED say. It refers to overall benefits and detriments, not just money, so basically the same thing. Oh, and regardless, a "benefit" can't be a negative either! Then it's no longer a benefit! Pretty simple logic.

Obviously there's no point in taking the chance if there's nothing to gain from it, but just as obviously, many people here disagree with you that there isn't in this situation. As was already mentioned, there is added risk in EVERYTHING you do! You could die in a car crash driving to work...so to combat that risk, you walk, but you still might get struck by lightning, so you're better off just working from home. Uh oh, there's all kinda of dangers in your home, are you even safe there?

See how ridiculous that sounds? You can take that argument anywhere. It's a pointless one to make.

 

[us3rnotfound]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Farang
I couldn't even imagine the feat of strength it would take for me to get alcohol poisoning--that is quite simply not going to happen because I don't have the ability to ingest that much booze without puking, nor do I have the desire to ingest that much. I don't think you understand how much it would take for a 200 pound male to be poisoned.

Lawlz. Way to stroke your ego

And it doesn't take much for a 200 pound male to be poisoned. All it takes is someone switching the vodka with everclear in a batch of jungle juice and someone going to town on it.

Usually Everclear IS in jungle juice

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Pass out and drown in your own vomit.
Fall down a flight of stairs.
Walk out in front of a car you didn't bother to look and see because you were faced.
Piss off the wrong guy and get thrown through a plate glass window.
Pass out smoking in bed and burn your house down.

any could happen during a regular day and are not more probable with alcohol.(except the stupid vomit thing. What's that kill, like 2 people a year?) Wouldn't pissing off the wrong guy happen more often if you're just an asshole rather than happily drunk? Wouldn't the smoking be the cause in the last example rather than drinking?

You're reaaaaaaaaally reaching with these.

No. . .the passing out because you were drunk is what caused you to let the cigarette burn your house down. Otherwise I'd have said "fall asleep." But I didn't. I said "Pass out." Was reading comprehension 101 not a class you did well in?

If the drunk guy was not a smoker it would never happen. The cause of the fire would be a cigarette not a drink. Are you serious with this or just trolling? It's hard to believe you mean anything you type.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Farang
I couldn't even imagine the feat of strength it would take for me to get alcohol poisoning--that is quite simply not going to happen because I don't have the ability to ingest that much booze without puking, nor do I have the desire to ingest that much. I don't think you understand how much it would take for a 200 pound male to be poisoned.

Lawlz. Way to stroke your ego

And it doesn't take much for a 200 pound male to be poisoned. All it takes is someone switching the vodka with everclear in a batch of jungle juice and someone going to town on it.

Usually Everclear IS in jungle juice

Depends completely on who makes it and where. In states where it's illegal to sell everclear (and any other liquor over a certain proof), vodka goes into it. Down in Maryland, we typically had two batches, one with vodka and one with everclear.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Farang
I couldn't even imagine the feat of strength it would take for me to get alcohol poisoning--that is quite simply not going to happen because I don't have the ability to ingest that much booze without puking, nor do I have the desire to ingest that much. I don't think you understand how much it would take for a 200 pound male to be poisoned.

Lawlz. Way to stroke your ego

And it doesn't take much for a 200 pound male to be poisoned. All it takes is someone switching the vodka with everclear in a batch of jungle juice and someone going to town on it.

Usually Everclear IS in jungle juice

Depends completely on who makes it and where. In states where it's illegal to sell everclear (and any other liquor over a certain proof), vodka goes into it. Down in Maryland, we typically had two batches, one with vodka and one with everclear.

In PA we often use vodka since Everclear is illegal. Luckily I live 20 mins from NJ and can just hop across to buy some and smuggle it back in!

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Pass out and drown in your own vomit.
Fall down a flight of stairs.
Walk out in front of a car you didn't bother to look and see because you were faced.
Piss off the wrong guy and get thrown through a plate glass window.
Pass out smoking in bed and burn your house down.

any could happen during a regular day and are not more probable with alcohol.(except the stupid vomit thing. What's that kill, like 2 people a year?) Wouldn't pissing off the wrong guy happen more often if you're just an asshole rather than happily drunk? Wouldn't the smoking be the cause in the last example rather than drinking?

You're reaaaaaaaaally reaching with these.

No. . .the passing out because you were drunk is what caused you to let the cigarette burn your house down. Otherwise I'd have said "fall asleep." But I didn't. I said "Pass out." Was reading comprehension 101 not a class you did well in?

If the drunk guy was not a smoker it would never happen. The cause of the fire would be a cigarette not a drink. Are you serious with this or just trolling? It's hard to believe you mean anything you type.

Well no shit, Sherlock. . .I thought that went without saying. Thank you, Captain Obvious! Once again your astute powers of observing and reporting on that which is blatantly apparent astound us all! But plenty of people DO smoke and plenty of people are also known to smoke while drinking even while they wouldn't normally smoke otherwise. Fact of the matter is, binge drinking sucks.

Maybe I should have been more clear. . .My example assumes that a very drunk person passes out in bed/on the sofa. . .wherever. . .with a lit cigarette in his/her hand. Do you understand now how the being drunk caused the fire?

 

[davestar]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: davestar
the american definition of binge drinking is what i (and others) are referring to: ~5+ drinks in a night.

the only time i'd look down on someone for his drinking is if he's vomiting on himself at a bar or otherwise harming/bothering others.

You may consider ~5 drinks binge drinking. I don't think real binge drinking starts until you get closer to drinking a fifth. I guess it's all relative to ones tolerance though. I guess what really matters is how impaired you are.

i don't consider 5 drinks binge drinking... i don't really attach any specific quantity to binge drinking. but if we're talking about binge drinking it only makes sense for everyone to be talking about the same thing. some of us are probably talking about "binging" in the media sense (5 drinks), some in the college/post-college sense (10 drinks) and some in the degenerate sense (a case or a fifth).

few, if any, are going to argue that drinking a fifth of vodka every friday night is going to result in bad things. but those that think you're disparaging something like 8-10 drinks over the span of an evening are obviously going to think you're a self-righteous ass. if you have no problem with that, then there's probably no real argument in this thread, just misunderstandings.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Haha you're right, opportunity cost is the economic terminology for 'risk/reward' which you did INDEED say. It refers to overall benefits and detriments, not just money, so basically the same thing. Oh, and regardless, a "benefit" can't be a negative either! Then it's no longer a benefit! Pretty simple logic.

Obviously there's no point in taking the chance if there's nothing to gain from it, but just as obviously, many people here disagree with you that there isn't in this situation. As was already mentioned, there is added risk in EVERYTHING you do! You could die in a car crash driving to work...so to combat that risk, you walk, but you still might get struck by lightning, so you're better off just working from home. Uh oh, there's all kinda of dangers in your home, are you even safe there?

See how ridiculous that sounds? You can take that argument anywhere. It's a pointless one to make.

NO I DIDN'T you <expletive deleted>! I NEVER framed the term "risk/reward" in an economics paradigm! YOU DID! You projected that meaning onto my words. You can sit there and argue about semantics/word choice/terminology all you want but you know what I really mean. But it's a completely irrelevant point that has nothing to do with this thread so stop deflecting from the topic.

You are just bringing up the same points again and again. I know there is risk in everything you do. But there is usually something to gain by doing it. Not in the case of binge drinking. At least not from the point of view of a mature and mentally competent adult.

Does anybody have some PIE!?

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: davestar
the american definition of binge drinking is what i (and others) are referring to: ~5+ drinks in a night.

the only time i'd look down on someone for his drinking is if he's vomiting on himself at a bar or otherwise harming/bothering others.

You may consider ~5 drinks binge drinking. I don't think real binge drinking starts until you get closer to drinking a fifth. I guess it's all relative to ones tolerance though. I guess what really matters is how impaired you are.

i don't consider 5 drinks binge drinking... i don't really attach any specific quantity to binge drinking. but if we're talking about binge drinking it only makes sense for everyone to be talking about the same thing. some of us are probably talking about "binging" in the media sense (5 drinks), some in the college/post-college sense (10 drinks) and some in the degenerate sense (a case or a fifth).

few, if any, are going to argue that drinking a fifth of vodka every friday night is going to result in bad things. but those that think you're disparaging something like 8-10 drinks over the span of an evening are obviously going to think you're a self-righteous ass. if you have no problem with that, then there's probably no real argument in this thread, just misunderstandings.

Well like I said. . .I don't want to put a number of drinks on it. It's how drunk / impaired you are and what kind of behavior you're exhibiting that matters. Binge drinking IMO == getting REALLY drunk and acting stupid sloppy. I don't care if that takes you 5 drinks or 50. Though I gotta say, if 10 drinks doesn't do it for ya, get help.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
NO I DIDN'T you <expletive deleted>! I NEVER framed the term "risk/reward" in an economics paradigm! YOU DID! You projected that meaning onto my words. But it's a completely irrelevant point that has nothing to do with this thread so stop deflecting from the topic.

You are just bringing up the same points again and again. I know there is risk in everything you do. But there is usually something to gain by doing it. Not in the case of binge drinking. At least not from the point of view of a mature and mentally competent adult.

Does anybody have some PIE!?

It's about the risk to reward ratio. Excessive drinking is a lot of risk for just about 0. . .or even negative benefit. It's not worth the risks, it's stupid, you look stupid by doing it, you aren't even close to as funny or smart as you think you are, and NO that chick is NOT

Tell me again...how that's not what you mean? The phrase 'opportunity cost' does not have to include money, you know.

As for the 'reward' portion, that's your opinion. You can back up the risks with fact. The reward, however, is 100% opinion, and you are 100% incorrect to frame it otherwise, so don't even bother.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: Deeko
So rather than spouting a bunch of trash about opportunity cost, why don't you enlighten us, oh great ahurtt? What happened that was so terrible in your past, that you think any binge drinking is a death wish?

Why waste my breath? You aren't listening and you don't care. I'm not going into the nitty-gritty details of my private personal past on a public internet forum. Here's how it would go. . .something like this:

Me: "details details details"

T3h Intarweb: "YOU SUCK LOSER! We are not you! What happened to you can't happen to me! I am invincible!"

Why would subject myself to that? I've said what I had to say and had it misinterpreted enough in this thread already by a bunch of douche-nozzles who only hear what they want to. Go ahead, binge drink to your hearts content. Learn for yourself what can happen. It's what most people are going to do anyway regardless of what anybody says to them. So, it really doesn't matter.

Dude the reason people hate you is cause you're a dick, not because you're arguing against binge drinking. From your second post, you've been a dick without any provocation. Once again, in all caps so you understand: STOP BEING A DICK. PEOPLE MAY RESPOND BETTER. Of course, it's not mandatory (especially on the internet), but it is a polite suggestion. Make an argument without calling somebody "stupid" or a "moron" you jerk. Man, you really just exude DICK from every orifice don't you? seriously wow.

Now back to the point at hand. I binge drink frequently. I have friends that binge drink. We go out together. Usually, one or two people are hammered, the rest aren't too bad. No one's died. We watch out for each other. People who binge drink alone... well they're just sorry people. Makes for some fun stories. Sure there have been several embarassing ones, but I have the capacity to laugh it off because it isn't a big damn deal. The fun stories are worth it. I'll grow out of it soon, but until then... let the liquor flow as free as my pee when I gotta go. If I do meet jerks like you who decry heavy drinking as the second coming of Satan, I'll laugh, point and hit the next bar with my buddies who don't have vaulting poles shoved up their ass. If I die in the process, i'll see you on the flipside.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ahurtt
NO I DIDN'T you <expletive deleted>! I NEVER framed the term "risk/reward" in an economics paradigm! YOU DID! You projected that meaning onto my words. But it's a completely irrelevant point that has nothing to do with this thread so stop deflecting from the topic.

You are just bringing up the same points again and again. I know there is risk in everything you do. But there is usually something to gain by doing it. Not in the case of binge drinking. At least not from the point of view of a mature and mentally competent adult.

Does anybody have some PIE!?

It's about the risk to reward ratio. Excessive drinking is a lot of risk for just about 0. . .or even negative benefit. It's not worth the risks, it's stupid, you look stupid by doing it, you aren't even close to as funny or smart as you think you are, and NO that chick is NOT

Tell me again...how that's not what you mean? The phrase 'opportunity cost' does not have to include money, you know.

As for the 'reward' portion, that's your opinion. You can back up the risks with fact. The reward, however, is 100% opinion, and you are 100% incorrect to frame it otherwise, so don't even bother.

It doesn't frigging matter! You used the term opportunity cost. Not me. Then later you misquoted me by attributing the term "opportunity cost" to me when I never said it. You did. But that doesn't matter as you obviously understand the thought I was trying to relay regardless of the terminology I used. You are picking at my wording/semantics because you are desperate to be correct about something. Doesn't matter if the thing you are right about has anything to do with the actual topic at hand I guess. Anything will do huh?

As for asserting that the 0 perceived benefits of binge drinking is anything other than my opinion, I will not bother. I haven't so far and I shall continue to refrain from trying to assert that as fact. I WOULD BE incorrect were I to try to frame it otherwise. But since I have not done so, you are incorrect to say I am already 100% incorrect. (See, I can do it too).

 

[torpid]

Binge drinking is not the worst thing in the world, but it is definitely lame/immature. It's interesting to argue with binge drinkers over this. Try it some time. But so what? Lots of things are immature that we do on a daily basis. If you aren't endangering lives, who cares?

 

[Farang]

Ahurtt you sound like a blabbering idiot. You are so caught up in this argument over terms, it is like you're in an argument for the death penalty saying "OMG I SAID CRIMINALS SHOULD BE KILLED, YOU ARE THE ONE SAYING THEY SHOULD BE EXECUTED!" Opportunity cost perfectly explains the concept you were trying to get across and there was no misinterpretation except on your part, as someone who must not have taken an economics class but if you have God help the poor souls who now have that professor. That said, I'm going to crack a beer in your honor and find me a fat girl who I temporarily believe is thin.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: Deeko
So rather than spouting a bunch of trash about opportunity cost, why don't you enlighten us, oh great ahurtt? What happened that was so terrible in your past, that you think any binge drinking is a death wish?

Why waste my breath? You aren't listening and you don't care. I'm not going into the nitty-gritty details of my private personal past on a public internet forum. Here's how it would go. . .something like this:

Me: "details details details"

T3h Intarweb: "YOU SUCK LOSER! We are not you! What happened to you can't happen to me! I am invincible!"

Why would subject myself to that? I've said what I had to say and had it misinterpreted enough in this thread already by a bunch of douche-nozzles who only hear what they want to. Go ahead, binge drink to your hearts content. Learn for yourself what can happen. It's what most people are going to do anyway regardless of what anybody says to them. So, it really doesn't matter.

Dude the reason people hate you is cause you're a dick, not because you're arguing against binge drinking. From your second post, you've been a dick without any provocation. Once again, in all caps so you understand: STOP BEING A DICK. PEOPLE MAY RESPOND BETTER. Of course, it's not mandatory (especially on the internet), but it is a polite suggestion. Make an argument without calling somebody "stupid" or a "moron" you jerk. Man, you really just exude DICK from every orifice don't you? seriously wow.

Now back to the point at hand. I binge drink frequently. I have friends that binge drink. We go out together. Usually, one or two people are hammered, the rest aren't too bad. No one's died. We watch out for each other. People who binge drink alone... well they're just sorry people. Makes for some fun stories. Sure there have been several embarassing ones, but I have the capacity to laugh it off because it isn't a big damn deal. The fun stories are worth it. I'll grow out of it soon, but until then... let the liquor flow as free as my pee when I gotta go. If I do meet jerks like you who decry heavy drinking as the second coming of Satan, I'll laugh, point and hit the next bar with my buddies who don't have vaulting poles shoved up their ass. If I die in the process, i'll see you on the flipside.

Sorry, you must have mistaken me for somebody who actually gives a shit.

Oh and:

Make an argument without calling somebody "stupid" or a "moron" you jerk. Man, you really just exude DICK from every orifice don't you? seriously wow.

LOL - hypocritical much? Methinks you should take your own advice. Especially since this is your very first reply to me in this whole thread and that NOTHING I said in any of my other posts was directed at you. This is a fine shining example for your first post in this thread. Your advice would carry a lot more meaning if I weren't so blinded by your hypocrisy. And if you do make it to the flipside sooner rather than later, I just hope its only yourself you remove from the gene pool.

 

[mattocs]

Binge drinking does not mean you will have a hang over. Take some Advil and drink a lot of water before bed and you will be fine.

And I do enjoy binge drinking. I do it about 3 times a year.