None. . for me. And obviously not for you. Not yet anyway. But I wager a google search or 2 on the topic of annual alcohol poisoning fatality rates in the US yields results that indicate somewhere in the hundreds per year. It only takes once. And none of the people it ever happened to thought it would happen to them either. Yeah, I'm one of those types. The type that has sense enough to know that if you play with fire, you might get burned. Maybe you won't. . .but to me it isn't worth the taking the risk for something which has absolutely 0 benefits. And it's not like alcohol poisoning is the only way to go. Read above. I'm not going to repeat myself for the sake of a moron.
None. . for me. And obviously not for you. Not yet anyway. But I wager a google search or 2 on the topic of annual alcohol poisoning fatality rates in the US yields results that indicate somewhere in the hundreds per year. It only takes once. And none of the people it ever happened to thought it would happen to them either. Yeah, I'm one of those types. The type that has sense enough to know that if you play with fire, you might get burned. Maybe you won't. . .but to me it isn't worth the taking the risk for something which has absolutely 0 benefits. And it's not like alcohol poisoning is the only way to go. Read above. I'm not going to repeat myself for the sake of a moron.
Deeko
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Man you're right. I drank all that beer and it killed my brain cells! Oh why did I put my life in such danger??
I'm 23. I just graduated college in June, I was in a fraternity. Believe me, if anyone has heard all the horror stories about drinking, its me. Of course these things happen - but its a whole lot rarer than you make it sound. "There is a good chance the last night of your life will also be one when you were drinking excessively." Come on, that's asinine and untrue.
No, it's not untrue. Nor is it true. . .yet. It is merely a prediction of what may yet come to pass. The veracity of that statement is yet unknown. But for somebody who drinks excessively on a regular basis, it stands a much more likely chance of becoming true.
I said that in response to somebody who stated that some of the best nights of their life had been while they were drinking heavily. It's not something I just said out of the blue like you make it seem here.
Ok, well let's not look merely at incidences of alcohol poisoning deaths alone, but look instead at the number of all other alcohol related deaths and/or hospitalizations as well, alcohol poisoning deaths included. Face it. . .drunk people do stupid shit sometimes they pay for it with their lives. Or even worse. . .sometimes other people pay for drunk peoples irresponsibility with their lives.
InflatableBuddha
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Slightly off-thread, but has anyone noticed that binge drinking is defined differently in different countries? For men, it's 5 drinks per occasion in Canada, but 11 in Britain! There's a massive difference there.
I tend to think of this issue as:
Having a drink = 1
Going for drinks = 2-3 (no buzz, but you shouldn't drive)
Drinking = 4 - ??? (until you're buzzed)
Bingeing = ??? (until you're plastered/on the verge of passing out)
I have a drink or go for drinks pretty regularly these days. I also have lots of days where I don't drink at all. It is an enjoyable activity and there are actually some health benefits.
I did my share of drinking in university, even some bingeing as I was trying to figure out my limits. The bingeing nights simply were not fun - you wonder how the fuck you got home, why there is puke on your clothes or your bed, and why someone is pounding a sledgehammer against your skull. I have rarely done this since school.
Find out what it takes for you to get buzzed. If you're going to have a wild night (and only do this occasionally), then work up to your buzz and maintain from there. And of course watch out for your friends, just as they should watch out for you.
I tend to think of this issue as:
Having a drink = 1
Going for drinks = 2-3 (no buzz, but you shouldn't drive)
Drinking = 4 - ??? (until you're buzzed)
Bingeing = ??? (until you're plastered/on the verge of passing out)
I have a drink or go for drinks pretty regularly these days. I also have lots of days where I don't drink at all. It is an enjoyable activity and there are actually some health benefits.
I did my share of drinking in university, even some bingeing as I was trying to figure out my limits. The bingeing nights simply were not fun - you wonder how the fuck you got home, why there is puke on your clothes or your bed, and why someone is pounding a sledgehammer against your skull. I have rarely done this since school.
Find out what it takes for you to get buzzed. If you're going to have a wild night (and only do this occasionally), then work up to your buzz and maintain from there. And of course watch out for your friends, just as they should watch out for you.
might, maybe, could happen? You could write that about any daily activity. Sounds like you really need to get out of the basement.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I don't drive drunk and I couldn't even imagine the feat of strength it would take for me to get alcohol poisoning--that is quite simply not going to happen because I don't have the ability to ingest that much booze without puking, nor do I have the desire to ingest that much. I don't think you understand how much it would take for a 200 pound male to be poisoned.
Your other argument that all accident-related deaths are increased due to drinking and thus drinking should be avoided, well that is pathetic. I may as well not go dirtbiking or snowboarding or walk down the street because my chance of death will increase.
I will keep it up, and if I die doing something stupid while drunk then so be it. It will have been worth the other great times I've had in cities around the world getting plastered with new friends and old.
there is a time and a place for binge drinking and drugs and thats college. It is cool and fun as hell to get completely tore up at that age but once you graduate and move to the work force its time to cool it down a bit.
I've slowed down a lot in the last year and a half. I just don't have much time to go out anymore. This past few days, though, were formal holiday parties. Fri/Sat/Mon nights. So it's been a bit rough for me Sat/Sun/Tue daylights, but hey, I don't mind getting ripped every so often.
lmao, you can tell who never drinks because they get blinded and brainwashed by the MADD commercials, stop being so uptight baby.
And to expand on what I was saying about alcohol poisoning. . . I'm not just a "It's not going to happen to me"-type. Anyone who drinks knows the difference between getting buzzed, getting plastered, and getting poisoned. Only morons get poisoned, and if you knew something about drinking that wasn't from an afterschool special you would know that drinking excessively is not like playing with fire, it is like sitting around a campfire. Only the idiot who jumps on top of it is going to get burned.
UNCjigga
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I still go out on benders from time to time, but only on the rare occasion my crew from college does a trip or a get-together. Its not an every weekend or every Thursday night thing anymore, but we still probably drink more than most folks our age. That said, I don't lose my clothes, forget where I am, or puke all over the place anymore (haven't done that in a few years.) Once you're past 25, its not very cool getting completely shitfaced. Not to mention in DC, it can be quite expensive!
It's about the risk to reward ratio. Excessive drinking is a lot of risk for just about 0. . .or even negative benefit. It's not worth the risks, it's stupid, you look stupid by doing it, you aren't even close to as funny or smart as you think you are, and NO that chick is NOT diggin' your sloppy drunk ass. . .
Yeah sure, I might be involved in a car accident by the mere act of driving to work. . .but at least going to work affords me the tangible benefit of being able to feed and provide for my family. . .repeated binge drinking just eventually turns a person into an alcoholic.
InflatableBuddha
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By this reasoning, vehicles should be banned because of all the societal costs they incur - congestion and lost productivity, air pollution and health costs, urban sprawl, noise pollution, energy consumption and political instability, injuries and deaths, property damage, stress...
Wait a minute. What about the positive effects they have - helping people travel to various locations and complete numerous errands, explore their surroundings, travel to work and places of entertainment.
Cars are not without fault (that's why I limit my driving), but the benefits are there. Alcohol is similar - some benefits and some drawbacks. And there will always be human stupidity and human error which will magnify the drawbacks of alcohol or vehicles (or both).
Instead of prancing around like a lunatic teetotaller and claiming alcohol is pure evil, why don't you petition your local government for more sensible liquor laws and public education that will reduce some of these problems while still allowing responsible adults to enjoy themselves. There will always be a trade-off.
I have drank more in my lifetime than you will drink in 5 lifetimes probably. I've been there, done that, and I gotta say, looking back I can't think of a single way in which the experience enriched my life or the lives of any of the people I knew then or whom I know now. Binge drinking is plain stupid. I can say that not because I never drank before. I can say that from experience. Lots and lots of experience.
Never said I was, just pointing out how ridiculously over zealous people on this forum are. Thats the hard thing about hanging out at a technical forum where many people probably havent ever drank any alcohol or partied much, they just dont understand or resent those that do and get on the offensive (like you and the other gentleman).
Yeah, and coincidentally, as it happens that idiot will probably be the drunkest person at the party too.
Obviously you had a serious problem then. As I said in my intial post, college is the time and place.
As I said in a previous reply which I guess you had not read before posting . . .it's about the risk to reward ratio. Of course I can see the tangible benefits that having cars brings us. I cannot, however, see ANY tangible benefit to BINGE DRINKING. Responsible adults DO NOT binge drink. They know when enough is enough. There is a certain percentage of people who will learn only from harsh experience. Some of them will die. Others will not. But you can be pretty sure that if you binge drink on a regular basis you will likely not live to be a very old person. Ever notice how you don't see any really old obese people? Same reason you never see any really old alcoholics. They tend to die. Now, please show me where I said alcohol was pure evil? All I've said all along here pretty much is that BINGE drinking is a really stupid and risky thing to do for NO tangible benefit whatsoever.
1) Binge drinking is not alcoholism.
2) Benefits are objective, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist for others.
3) That cute girl actually does like me better when I'm drunk, and she is too.
2) Benefits are objective, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist for others.
3) That cute girl actually does like me better when I'm drunk, and she is too.
hah, says the guy who basically laid it out that if you drink you are likely to kill someone. Get an education.
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