As you can see if you've been following this thread, arguing with binge drinkers about its benefits/detriments is like talking to a deaf blind and dumb brick wall that doesn't speak your language anyway.
As you can see if you've been following this thread, arguing with binge drinkers about its benefits/detriments is like talking to a deaf blind and dumb brick wall that doesn't speak your language anyway.
Deeko
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What are you talking about? Opportunity cost is a perfectly acceptable way to phrase your 'risk/reward' scenario. Like I said, it doesn't have to involve money. Opportunity cost is measured in utility, and you can use define utility with just about any unit. Are you just arguing whether or not I used the same exact words as you? That's a pretty pointless argument if both can mean the same thing. You're the one picking at semantics, sir, that should be pretty clear.
Now if you want to argue semantics, you did talk about the '0 benefit' part as a statement of fact, not your opinion. If that's now how you meant it, well....I dunno what to tell you, other than learn to communicate your thoughts better. You seem to have a lot of issues with that anyway, seeing the attitude with which you entered the thread.
Now if you want to argue semantics, you did talk about the '0 benefit' part as a statement of fact, not your opinion. If that's now how you meant it, well....I dunno what to tell you, other than learn to communicate your thoughts better. You seem to have a lot of issues with that anyway, seeing the attitude with which you entered the thread.
Opportunity cost. . .cost to benefit ratio. . .whatever. . .doesn't matter. The idea is clear. But if you let somebody misquote you once, before you know it they are putting all kinds of words in your mouth.
Happy hoggin! :thumbsup: Pork one for me too.
Deeko
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I never misquoted you. I used the term. You said you never said it, that it's an economics term (which is true, but irrelevant since the term still applies), and I replied that it means the same as risk/reward which you did say. Then you had a hissy fit. No misquotations, just a dude that needs some Midol because some immature brat kids poked holes in his argument.
uh, whatever.
I mean, it's one thing to do it once-twice a month in college, but the post-graduation weekend all-town blowout party was probably the last time I got really wasted from alcohol.
I mean, it's one thing to do it once-twice a month in college, but the post-graduation weekend all-town blowout party was probably the last time I got really wasted from alcohol.
It's right there. . .You attributed me with "spouting" the term "opportunity cost" when I quite clearly never used that term in any of my prior posts. Would it make you happier if instead of "negative benefit" I said "negative consequence" instead? Even though you understand perfectly well what I mean either way though one may be more technically correct than the other?
Deeko
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Yes, what you were spouting WAS trash about opportunity cost, regardless of if you used the word or not. I never said you used the word 'opportunity cost', and unless you enjoy being wrong you can't deny that it applies here, so why are you continuing to argue this?
Obviously if you are talking about risk/reward, or OPPORTUNITY COST, and you say "Excessive drinking is a lot of risk for just about 0. . .or even negative benefit", you're insinuating that something negative should go in the 'reward' column.....you don't see the stupidity in that statement?
Anyway, its almost getting tiresome arguing over what you did/did not say, you're just avoiding the fact that your initial "opinions" on this topic were torn apart by multiple people. I'll take that as a compliment, and maybe go chug a handle of everclear to celebrate.
The issue isn't that you drink excessively, its what you do while you drink excessively.
there's a good chance the last night of yours will be sitting at your computer reading atot.
there's a good chance the last night of yours will be sitting at your computer reading atot.
Jadow
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I feel old, this is the first time I've ever completed an age bracket survey and I was in the oldest age group. I'm only 29!
As far as binge drinking goes, lame, but it's ok to drink, and drink fairly heavily if you are in the right environment, don't drive, and know what you're doing.
As far as binge drinking goes, lame, but it's ok to drink, and drink fairly heavily if you are in the right environment, don't drive, and know what you're doing.
warning signed of not having an arguement #1: attacking the maturity level of your fellow debaters.
Connoisseur
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I don't consider it hypocritical at all. Your responses were completely unprovoked. I was provoked by the fact that you're calling everybody a moron. Makes me mad. I'm calling you an ass. It's simple enough. I don't give a shit much either. Argue whatever you want but do it with some civility.
Sorry it too me so long to respond but I was busy getting drunk and getting some.... seriously I was.
Connoisseur
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Quite the opposite. First time in a while I felt alive
. Women can do that to you. Believe it or not, don't have a hangover either. I guess all the previous nights of binge drinking paid off.
Amused
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Binge drinking is defined as drinking 5 or more drinks in one sitting.
At 220 lbs, it takes 5 beers just to get me buzzed. So I guess you could say I "binge drink."
I do not, however, like to get sloppy drunk. I do like to keep a heavy "warm fuzzy" for the night. That usually requires 8-10 beers over an evening. An evening is usually 5-6 hours.
So that's about 2 beers or a little under an hour average.
At 220 lbs, it takes 5 beers just to get me buzzed. So I guess you could say I "binge drink."
I do not, however, like to get sloppy drunk. I do like to keep a heavy "warm fuzzy" for the night. That usually requires 8-10 beers over an evening. An evening is usually 5-6 hours.
So that's about 2 beers or a little under an hour average.
nakedfrog
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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Getting drunk is totally pointless. Sure, you feel crazy, do crazy stuff perhaps (some of which might either get you or someone else killed or injured) then you wake up in the morning with a hangover.....
Someone explain to me again how that is fun?
Not everyone gets hangovers.
You sound a bit like someone who's been fed a little too much propaganda, though.
I definitely would not consider having 5 drinks to be "binge drinking." If I'm going to drink I'll usually have at least 5 drinks worth of alcohol before I even go out to the bar. 5 or more drinks every night was pretty standard for me until I started trying to lose weight. 12 beers in a night won't even get me faced, I would have to drink at least a full 5th for that to happen. I think the British standard of 11 drinks would be more accurate (if that is indeed what the British measurement is, I only read that tidbit of info in this thread).
I use it the way other people use pain killers or anti-depression meds. It can be useful when used correctly.
Originally posted by: irishScott
A drink or two is fine, tipsy is okay, but flat out drunk is just stupid IMO. You do stupid things you may/may not regret/remember, and you have to deal with hangovers. That said, screwing with drunk people can be amusing.
Not to mention, binge drinking (ie: until you pass out or throw up) can kill you. One of my floormates last year had to be rushed to the hospital after he threw up and passed out.
Not everyone does stupid things when they get drunk, and not everyone gets hangovers.
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