Bimmers

[jlee]

Yes, the turbo is attached to the engine by pulleys which put more air into the engine. The header is attached to the turbo.

Negative, ghostrider. That's a supercharger.

 

[exdeath]

"The SVT also featured a reworked version of the 2.0 liter Zetec engine available in other Focus models. Developed in concert with Cosworth, this engine featured a special aluminum cylinder head with enlarged intake ports, high compression pistons and forged connecting rods, piston oil squirters, solenoid operated variable camshaft timing on the intake cam, dual stage intake manifold, and a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust header.

These additions, coupled with an increased 10.2:1 compression ratio, increased horsepower from 130 to 170. Getrag provided a six-speed manual transmission "

Much better way to get started with a Focus. 12-13 psi on one of those is safe and bumps you to ~350 HP, along with a nice flat torque curve from the static compression. Unlike the other engines, the Cosworth head in this one can accomodate increased output with ease.

 

[punjabiplaya]

Yes, the turbo is attached to the engine by pulleys which put more air into the engine. The header is attached to the turbo.

Troll is hungry, needs more food

 

[exdeath]

I asked if you knew how it's fitted, not how it works.

Think about that, and see if you can tell me what the problem is with a header and a turbocharger.

Maybe he's thinking about doing a rear mounted turbo... *shrug*

 

[jlee]

Maybe he's thinking about doing a rear mounted turbo... *shrug*

I doubt it, especially given the reference to a pulley-driven turbo.

 

[BlackTigers]

Just wait till I boost my Focus. You all will see I will show you all. And gladly beat you all including bimmers at the track.

I've just placed my order for the exhaust, race headers and tune...BOO-YAH!

Why did you buy headers for an inline 4?

You must have some really sweet set-up going on to need two of them.

 

[Kirby]

Why did you buy headers for an inline 4?

You must have some really sweet set-up going on to need two of them.

He's going to duct tape it on top the other one for double the POWAH!

 

[alkemyst]

Why did you buy headers for an inline 4?

You must have some really sweet set-up going on to need two of them.

Seriously the 'header' vs 'headers' debate is geekdom.

nkgreen just backed you up on that.

I have installed header, headers, manifolds, exchangers, etc.

You can even buy [a header/headers] to modify for a good turbo application (not saying the OP did that though).

In the upswing of the real estate market too many refi'd to get the cars/bikes/boats/planes they were unable to buy in their prime.

Now they are all asshurt and looking to justify that.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Yes, the turbo is attached to the engine by pulleys which put more air into the engine. The header is attached to the turbo.

:awe:

 

[Arkaign]

"The SVT also featured a reworked version of the 2.0 liter Zetec engine available in other Focus models. Developed in concert with Cosworth, this engine featured a special aluminum cylinder head with enlarged intake ports, high compression pistons and forged connecting rods, piston oil squirters, solenoid operated variable camshaft timing on the intake cam, dual stage intake manifold, and a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust header.

These additions, coupled with an increased 10.2:1 compression ratio, increased horsepower from 130 to 170. Getrag provided a six-speed manual transmission "

Much better way to get started with a Focus. 12-13 psi on one of those is safe and bumps you to ~350 HP, along with a nice flat torque curve from the static compression. Unlike the other engines, the Cosworth head in this one can accomodate increased output with ease.

Stock, they're really pretty cool cars, but the SVT has a harder time delivering decent power after mods, they're pretty tapped out as is. The Zetec was a pretty awful motor, better than the SPI in some Foci, but still pretty bad. The Mazda Duratec in the '05+, particularly if you find the rare 2.3L ST model, is a whole ton better for all-motor power, and handles boost really well as well (see Speed3). The aftermarket for them is pretty good, and Cosworth makes gear for it. Also the 6-speed on the SVT oddly seems to inhibit rather than enable better performance, you have to shift to 3rd before hitting 60, which kinda sucks.

For whatever reason, ~250hp seems like the upper limit seen on DD SVT's after supercharging. Which of course is about all that makes sense with the lightweight FF layout anyway. That's one thing about the Foci that really does help, they're light like the old Hondas, around 2500-2600lbs rather than 3000lbs as on Mazda3, Sentra, Cobalt, Euro Focus, etc.

If OP had the 5-speed and was capable of doing simple work like installing his own intake/etc, he could do bolt-ons good to get him to ~170whp or so without being too severe, which really without adding a LSD would be pretty hairy, but with the 4-speed auto it's just totally pointless. I think it was edmunds that tested the auto 2.0 Focus to 60, I think it was around 10 seconds, 2 seconds worse than a stock 5-speed with identical motor. The coupe is slightly faster having a shade less weight, and after a few mods I can surprise a few folks. I am quicker than my friend's IS300, which surprised both of us, and I've hung around with Boxsters and S2000's on some local twisty roads, which is an honor for any economy car.

At the end of the day though, it's still a Focus, I'm just happy its reliable, cheap to operate, and fun to drive. I have no illusions that's its a performance car, and when it comes time to really get another fast car, it's definitely not gonna be a FF box.

 

[Arkaign]

Ah yes : http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/2008/testdrive.html

" In instrumented testing, our four-speed-automatic-equipped Focus accelerated from zero to 60 mph in 9.7 seconds. "

Tests for the 5-speed usually indicate 8 seconds, and I know for a fact that mid 7s are possible stock at the absolute limit once you get rid of the horrible Hankook LRR tires. After tune/intake, low to mids 7s aren't too hard. After that, $$$$, and as is obvious, why bother?

 

[jlee]

Ah yes : http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/2008/testdrive.html

" In instrumented testing, our four-speed-automatic-equipped Focus accelerated from zero to 60 mph in 9.7 seconds. "

Tests for the 5-speed usually indicate 8 seconds, and I know for a fact that mid 7s are possible stock at the absolute limit once you get rid of the horrible Hankook LRR tires. After tune/intake, low to mids 7s aren't too hard. After that, $$$$, and as is obvious, why bother?

Wow, that's pretty sad.

 

[Arkaign]

Wow, that's pretty sad.

Yeah. Shockingly most other 4-banger compact economy cars are in the exact same boat. Mazda3i automatic is also in the high 9s, along with Civic, Sentra, Corolla, Cobalt, and so on. People would do well to remember that non-turbo econoboxes are pretty slow anyway, but automatic compact econobox = suuuuper sloooooooooooow. The main reason is the bog. Sure they might be capable of 130-140-150hp, but you're not gonna get it until the revs climb considerably. At least with a manual you can precisely apply the power with some practice, and get that sweet spot between boiling your tires and bogging out. Even if you manage some way to get around the automatic's nanny sense and spool some power, you're already dealing with more weight and shift action that's lazy at best, usually upshifting well below the sweet spot to stay in what power you've got.

9.7 second 0-60 is fine for an urban runabout, 9.7 seconds as a 'bimmer' killer? Fail. OP should go get a used G35 sedan with the 6mt and a flash. ~280whp and a wide powerband, 0-60 in or just under 6 seconds is approaching actually 'good' performance.

 

[coxmaster]

Yeah. Shockingly most other 4-banger compact economy cars are in the exact same boat. Mazda3i automatic is also in the high 9s, along with Civic, Sentra, Corolla, Cobalt, and so on. People would do well to remember that non-turbo econoboxes are pretty slow anyway, but automatic compact econobox = suuuuper sloooooooooooow.

I love having a car thats a "compact economy car" thats not slow! Of course, its got a turbo.

 

[erikistired]

the fact that he keeps mentioning how awesome it's going to sound to justify the cost makes all other arguments irrelevant.

btw OP, i have an 03 honda element awd. can i get in on the racing action? as long as your driving isn't as good as your trolling i might have a chance.

edit: the last part is sarcasm.

 

[jellyrole]

I would rather have his "super car" than your card board box on wheels.

 

[Meghan54]

2.2 turbo Dodges are not cars to be messed with really.. They are really cheap, and really easy make fast.. My ex had a 08 Focus.. Terrible pile of a car.

He just has no clue, does he? While the 'Baron isn't up to the level that some Turbo Dodges are, it does run 11# of boost. Amazingly quick for its age....and it's surprised more than a few Euro and Japanese ricers and non-ricers.

But you're right, 2.2L turbo Mopars can be made to be very quick....have seen some extreme work done to achieve high 9 to low 10 sec. quarters out of our poor little Mopars.

 

[CraigRT]

He just has no clue, does he? While the 'Baron isn't up to the level that some Turbo Dodges are, it does run 11# of boost. Amazingly quick for its age....and it's surprised more than a few Euro and Japanese ricers and non-ricers.

But you're right, 2.2L turbo Mopars can be made to be very quick....have seen some extreme work done to achieve high 9 to low 10 sec. quarters out of our poor little Mopars.

None! I love turbo Dodges...
One of my best friends had an uber rare VNT Daytona. I don't have any pics of it but the car was sweet. I also got the chance to work on another rare 92 Iroc R/T (DOHC T3) when I was in high school. Shame, the car was a donation and not road worthy because of it (title)

I always wanted (and still do!) A Shelby Lancer.. I love them.

 

[alkemyst]

the early 2000 Focus hatchbacks were decent looking and modded ok.

Still pouring this much into a brand new car isn't the best way to go.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Quick Foci:-

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The Grand Canyon:

Your Car, even with mods:-

 

[MotF Bane]

I will pay your track fee to race me. Take a road trip up to Epping NH - name the date. I'll use a vacation day if I have to.

I'll come up to watch that.

 

[MotF Bane]

Yes, the turbo is attached to the engine by pulleys which put more air into the engine. The header is attached to the turbo.

AHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :awe:

 

[Zap]

LOL @ DivideBYZero's pictorial post.

BTW that first Focus (the "murdered out" one) looks wicked!

 

[DivideBYZero]

LOL @ DivideBYZero's pictorial post.

BTW that first Focus (the "murdered out" one) looks wicked!

It's the RS500. 350hp :twisted:

 

[fbrdphreak]

OP - do you at least have the requisite plastic spinner wheels and giant APC stickers all over the car? This way when I spot your mad-powa intake/exhaust Slowcus on 95, I'll know it's you waaaaaaaayyyyy back in my rear view mirror.