Bill O'Reilly surprised black people know how to behave...

[LTC8K6]

Black people don't eat a lot of fried chicken and watermelon all the time? Amazing!

Was that racist or was it sarcastic, Stoneburner?

Does it mean I think they do, or I think they don't?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

Ok I listened to clip you provided.

1. It's clear from both clips the segment was a discussion of racism. As usual the focal point of Bill O race discussions are why rap music is bad for society. Racism is never discussed in term of blind studies that show blacks get 50% fewer opportunities for jobs then whites.

2. People are defending Bill by attacking media matters. The clip they posted is farily accurate. If Fox News ran a story of a bridge collapse I would't automatically doubt it.

3. What would you conclude from these two sentences?
Racism in the United States is very very bad.
I walked through a black neighborhood yeaterday and was shocked nobody robbed me.

While Bill O may not have a problem hiring a black to work for him he obvioulsy hos some old style racist tendencies. This guy is a professional broadcaster. He would not have said he was "surprised" blacks could behave themselves unless he meant it.

It's obvious that the problem of racism is the US is stupendously trumped by idiocy, as Media Matters has so clearly demonstrated. In fact, trying to gussy this up as racism by selectively quoting O'Reilly and mischaracterizing those quotes when it is so obviously a manufactured, partisan attack has reached the pinnacle of idiocy and demonstrates just about everything that is wrong with the left in this country today. It takes sad, petty little people to do such a thing and it appears we have way more sad, petty people than we do racists in this country by a long shot.

And the right never get involved in personal attacks, cough...cough....9/11 widows...cough.
Bill assuming if you get too many blacks in one room chaos will break just proves he is ignorant. Neither I or the media matters article said Bill was racist but clearly has some issues he needs to work on.

That isnt what he was assuming, he was pointing out the sterotypes that run rampant within our media culture like MTV are not correct. He walked into a restaurant and according to the media and the sterotypes they push it should have been total chaos.

You have to really want to believe that is what his intentions were when looking at the context. Just admit you were duped by a far left website and we can move on from this silly discussion.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

Ok I listened to clip you provided.

1. It's clear from both clips the segment was a discussion of racism. As usual the focal point of Bill O race discussions are why rap music is bad for society. Racism is never discussed in term of blind studies that show blacks get 50% fewer opportunities for jobs then whites.

2. People are defending Bill by attacking media matters. The clip they posted is farily accurate. If Fox News ran a story of a bridge collapse I would't automatically doubt it.

3. What would you conclude from these two sentences?
Racism in the United States is very very bad.
I walked through a black neighborhood yeaterday and was shocked nobody robbed me.

While Bill O may not have a problem hiring a black to work for him he obvioulsy hos some old style racist tendencies. This guy is a professional broadcaster. He would not have said he was "surprised" blacks could behave themselves unless he meant it.

It's obvious that the problem of racism is the US is stupendously trumped by idiocy, as Media Matters has so clearly demonstrated. In fact, trying to gussy this up as racism by selectively quoting O'Reilly and mischaracterizing those quotes when it is so obviously a manufactured, partisan attack has reached the pinnacle of idiocy and demonstrates just about everything that is wrong with the left in this country today. It takes sad, petty little people to do such a thing and it appears we have way more sad, petty people than we do racists in this country by a long shot.

And the right never get involved in personal attacks, cough...cough....9/11 widows...cough.
Bill assuming if you get too many blacks in one room chaos will break just proves he is ignorant. Neither I or the media matters article said Bill was racist but clearly has some issues he needs to work on.

That isnt what he was assuming, he was pointing out the sterotypes that run rampant within our media culture like MTV are not correct. He walked into a restaurant and according to the media and the sterotypes they push it should have been total chaos.

You have to really want to believe that is what his intentions were when looking at the context. Just admit you were duped by a far left website and we can move on from this silly discussion.

He didn't say "despite the sterotype" or "despite media portrails" he said "I couldn't get over the fact that Sylvias was no different then any other restaurant despite being black owned"

I don't know Bill and I doubt you know him so we can only go by what he said.

 

[ayabe]

I love how Media Matters is far left just because Bill O says so.

What is far left about calling people out for what they say? Nothing here or anything is they post is out of context, they post the entire transcripts.

If you don't want to be held accountable for the vitriol and absolute BS you spout on public airwaves then you should quit broadcasting, it's that simple.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Click me


Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

Ok I listened to clip you provided.

1. It's clear from both clips the segment was a discussion of racism. As usual the focal point of Bill O race discussions are why rap music is bad for society. Racism is never discussed in term of blind studies that show blacks get 50% fewer opportunities for jobs then whites.

2. People are defending Bill by attacking media matters. The clip they posted is farily accurate. If Fox News ran a story of a bridge collapse I would't automatically doubt it.

3. What would you conclude from these two sentences?
Racism in the United States is very very bad.
I walked through a black neighborhood yeaterday and was shocked nobody robbed me.

While Bill O may not have a problem hiring a black to work for him he obvioulsy hos some old style racist tendencies. This guy is a professional broadcaster. He would not have said he was "surprised" blacks could behave themselves unless he meant it.

It's obvious that the problem of racism is the US is stupendously trumped by idiocy, as Media Matters has so clearly demonstrated. In fact, trying to gussy this up as racism by selectively quoting O'Reilly and mischaracterizing those quotes when it is so obviously a manufactured, partisan attack has reached the pinnacle of idiocy and demonstrates just about everything that is wrong with the left in this country today. It takes sad, petty little people to do such a thing and it appears we have way more sad, petty people than we do racists in this country by a long shot.

And the right never get involved in personal attacks, cough...cough....9/11 widows...cough.
Bill assuming if you get too many blacks in one room chaos will break just proves he is ignorant. Neither I or the media matters article said Bill was racist but clearly has some issues he needs to work on.

That isnt what he was assuming, he was pointing out the sterotypes that run rampant within our media culture like MTV are not correct. He walked into a restaurant and according to the media and the sterotypes they push it should have been total chaos.

You have to really want to believe that is what his intentions were when looking at the context. Just admit you were duped by a far left website and we can move on from this silly discussion.

He didn't say "despite the sterotype" or "despite media portrails" he said "I couldn't get over the fact that Sylvias was no different then any other restaurant despite being black owned"

I don't know Bill and I doubt you know him so we can only go by what he said.

Funny how Juan Williams can understand what O'Reilly was saying.

Maybe it's just me but I'm willing to bet that it's a bunch of pasty little white boys who are most getting themselves all whipped in a frothing frenzy over this, which is an irony all its own.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I seem to recall a public survey testing news views consumers about current events. Those who watched fox news scored at the dead bottom, something like 20% right. Its was NPR listeners who scored at the top with scores in the 80% correct range.

I don't have the link handy, but if someone else does, it might do something to settle the bias question.

While I didn't hear the Orielly piece, I did hear Juan Williams from NPR speak about. He was quite angry with Mediamatters and CNN, he claimed they were twisting Orielly's words etc. Apparently, Juan was in on the original discussion of race & relations with Oreilly.

I'm kinda of surprised there's a thread about this. But then again maybe not. I saw Kieth O had Oriely as one of the "World's Worst" etc for the restaurant comment.

Fern

 

[Moonbeam]

I like Bill O'Rielly. He is full of outrage and moral indignation. 😉

I have some small number of facts in this case and have concluded there's nothing to the charge. Bill, as far as I can tell, is outraged and morally indignant at Hip Hop and glad that most people with high melanin skin are just like folk with less.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I seem to recall a public survey testing news views consumers about current events. Those who watched fox news scored at the dead bottom, something like 20% right. Its was NPR listeners who scored at the top with scores in the 80% correct range.

I don't have the link handy, but if someone else does, it might do something to settle the bias question.

While I didn't hear the Orielly piece, I did hear Juan Williams from NPR speak about. He was quite angry with Mediamatters and CNN, he claimed they were twisting Orielly's words etc. Apparently, Juan was in on the original discussion of race & relations with Oreilly.

I'm kinda of surprised there's a thread about this. But then again maybe not. I saw Kieth O had Oriely as one of the "World's Worst" etc for the restaurant comment.

Fern

And Kieth O is pissed his show (which airs the same time as orielly) gets about 1/5th the viewers.

 

[beyoku]

Well what does it mean to be overwhelmed by the fact that another groups acts just like you?

Riddle me this. What does it mean to YOU when he says: I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. ?


To me, i think that he expected there to not only be differences but Major differences......And he "just couldn't get over the fact" that they were not any. It is as plain as day that he has been influenced but some of those same media stereotypes that he was talking about. He forgets we are Americans in the same way he is. But that is just so American to have that influence. It was a stupid comment but revealed the truth. Not only were their not any differences but he was like super surprised......What would he think he would see???? Who knows, maybe he has been watching too much Soul Plane.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Black people don't eat a lot of fried chicken and watermelon all the time? Amazing!

Was that racist or was it sarcastic, Stoneburner?

Does it mean I think they do, or I think they don't?

That stereotype is held by who? Whose stereotype is oreilly addressing? His own. Do you think you can't be racist and sarcastic? You must be australian, only australians are so stupid.


Oh wait, you mean there are some austral asians that aren't stupid?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

You mean nobody is going to call me a 'race provocateur' for making a comment about "pasty little white boys?"

Well...crap. Where's Media Matters when they really have something to complain about?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You mean nobody is going to call me a 'race provocateur' for making a comment about "pasty little white boys?"

Well...crap. Where's Media Matters when they really have something to complain about?

Well if there were those who actually took what you said into consideration somebody might complain but alas it seems nobody does😉

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I personally can't stand O'Reilly. But the context of his speech that nick1985 posted shows that he was actually arguing AGAINST racism and bigotry.

WTF is Media Matters' problem with their little hit piece? How can any self-respecting organization so blatantly misrepresent what someone said as they did? Have they become that desperate?

ask the NY Times 😀

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You mean nobody is going to call me a 'race provocateur' for making a comment about "pasty little white boys?"

Well...crap. Where's Media Matters when they really have something to complain about?

Well if there were those who actually took what you said into consideration somebody might complain but alas it seems nobody does😉

Well you commented so I guess that proves your point. 😛

 

[jonks]

http://www.webmd.com/brain/new...s-brain?src=RSS_PUBLIC

A study shows blacks are more disturbed by subtle racism than overt racism. Example, a white hooded guy yells "Die great person!" Sure, that's offensive, but blacks have apparently learned to deflects such idiotic comments.

The more offensive racism is the type O'Reilly exhibited. I have no doubt O'Reilly doesn't think that any given black person is dumber than a white person based on skin color, which would be overt racism. Rather, he's surprised a popular black restaurant didn't exhibit signs of gangsta culture, he assumed the place would be a dangerous locale just because of black clientele. That is the type of subtle dig that bothers blacks.

O'Reilly did a segment and railed against overt racism, but it's the more insidious covert type that is apparently more hurtful.

But I'm a pasty white boy, so what do i know

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

I'm sorry... I might be what you call a liberal spinning it, but here is the trasncript:

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

I won't say anything, so you won't say I'm spinning it. Just read it. Do you really think it's all right?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
http://www.webmd.com/brain/new...s-brain?src=RSS_PUBLIC

A study shows blacks are more disturbed by subtle racism than overt racism. Example, a white hooded guy yells "Die great person!" Sure, that's offensive, but blacks have apparently learned to deflects such idiotic comments.

The more offensive racism is the type O'Reilly exhibited. I have no doubt O'Reilly doesn't think that any given black person is dumber than a white person based on skin color, which would be overt racism. Rather, he's surprised a popular black restaurant didn't exhibit signs of gangsta culture, he assumed the place would be a dangerous locale just because of black clientele. That is the type of subtle dig that bothers blacks.

O'Reilly did a segment and railed against overt racism, but it's the more insidious covert type that is apparently more hurtful.

But I'm a pasty white boy, so what do i know

No doubt you know quite a bit but there's one thing you seem to be overlooking:

http://www.apa.org/journals/releases/neu193288.pdf

 

[nick1985]

If you hear it, its a LOT different from reading it. He is obviously mocking the people who would assume its different because it is a black resturant. If you listen to his tone you could pick up on it as well. Its hard to hear someones tone when you read a transcript, and in this case it makes a world of difference.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

I'm sorry... I might be what you call a liberal spinning it, but here is the trasncript:

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

I won't say anything, so you won't say I'm spinning it. Just read it. Do you really think it's all right?

That is NOT a transcript. It's a quote, a small section of the actual transcipt that has been lifted and analyzed, expecting to stand on its own, without considering the surrounding context of the remaining statements, which tends to distort the entire meaning of the lifted quote.

O'Reilly was not speaking to black people or making an observation about a damn restuarant. He was speaking directly to bigots with those remarks. He was pointing directly at the bigoted stereotypes by using sarcasm. Why the fuck is that concept not sinking in to some people?

I have little doubt that the people perpetuating this "racism" crap know this well already and are simply droning on purely to be impetuous pricks about the situation.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

I'm sorry... I might be what you call a liberal spinning it, but here is the trasncript:

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

I won't say anything, so you won't say I'm spinning it. Just read it. Do you really think it's all right?

That is NOT a transcript. It's a quote, a small section of the actual transcipt that has been lifted and analyzed, expecting to stand on its own, without considering the surrounding context of the remaining statements, which tends to distort the entire meaning of the lifted quote.

O'Reilly was not speaking to black people or making an observation about a damn restuarant. He was speaking directly to bigots with those remarks. He was pointing directly at the bigoted stereotypes by using sarcasm. Why the fuck is that concept not sinking in to some people?

I have little doubt that the people perpetuating this "racism" crap know this well already and are simply droning on purely to be impetuous pricks about the situation.

I listened to it. It doesn't sound sarcastic at all to me.

English is not my first language (actually not even the second), so I trust your interpretation.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: sirjonk
http://www.webmd.com/brain/new...s-brain?src=RSS_PUBLIC

A study shows blacks are more disturbed by subtle racism than overt racism. Example, a white hooded guy yells "Die great person!" Sure, that's offensive, but blacks have apparently learned to deflects such idiotic comments.

The more offensive racism is the type O'Reilly exhibited. I have no doubt O'Reilly doesn't think that any given black person is dumber than a white person based on skin color, which would be overt racism. Rather, he's surprised a popular black restaurant didn't exhibit signs of gangsta culture, he assumed the place would be a dangerous locale just because of black clientele. That is the type of subtle dig that bothers blacks.

O'Reilly did a segment and railed against overt racism, but it's the more insidious covert type that is apparently more hurtful.

But I'm a pasty white boy, so what do i know

No doubt you know quite a bit but there's one thing you seem to be overlooking:

http://www.apa.org/journals/releases/neu193288.pdf

I don't see how this adds to the thread. Please restrict your comments to the topic or the moderators will be notified, this I swear!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Click me


Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

Ok I listened to clip you provided.

1. It's clear from both clips the segment was a discussion of racism. As usual the focal point of Bill O race discussions are why rap music is bad for society. Racism is never discussed in term of blind studies that show blacks get 50% fewer opportunities for jobs then whites.

2. People are defending Bill by attacking media matters. The clip they posted is farily accurate. If Fox News ran a story of a bridge collapse I would't automatically doubt it.

3. What would you conclude from these two sentences?
Racism in the United States is very very bad.
I walked through a black neighborhood yeaterday and was shocked nobody robbed me.

While Bill O may not have a problem hiring a black to work for him he obvioulsy hos some old style racist tendencies. This guy is a professional broadcaster. He would not have said he was "surprised" blacks could behave themselves unless he meant it.

It's obvious that the problem of racism is the US is stupendously trumped by idiocy, as Media Matters has so clearly demonstrated. In fact, trying to gussy this up as racism by selectively quoting O'Reilly and mischaracterizing those quotes when it is so obviously a manufactured, partisan attack has reached the pinnacle of idiocy and demonstrates just about everything that is wrong with the left in this country today. It takes sad, petty little people to do such a thing and it appears we have way more sad, petty people than we do racists in this country by a long shot.

And the right never get involved in personal attacks, cough...cough....9/11 widows...cough.
Bill assuming if you get too many blacks in one room chaos will break just proves he is ignorant. Neither I or the media matters article said Bill was racist but clearly has some issues he needs to work on.

That isnt what he was assuming, he was pointing out the sterotypes that run rampant within our media culture like MTV are not correct. He walked into a restaurant and according to the media and the sterotypes they push it should have been total chaos.

You have to really want to believe that is what his intentions were when looking at the context. Just admit you were duped by a far left website and we can move on from this silly discussion.

He didn't say "despite the sterotype" or "despite media portrails" he said "I couldn't get over the fact that Sylvias was no different then any other restaurant despite being black owned"

I don't know Bill and I doubt you know him so we can only go by what he said.

Did you bother listening to the context of the discussion at all? Put it into context and rethink your position. You sound like a petty partisan hack believing the crap MM spews.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: sirjonk
http://www.webmd.com/brain/new...s-brain?src=RSS_PUBLIC

A study shows blacks are more disturbed by subtle racism than overt racism. Example, a white hooded guy yells "Die great person!" Sure, that's offensive, but blacks have apparently learned to deflects such idiotic comments.

The more offensive racism is the type O'Reilly exhibited. I have no doubt O'Reilly doesn't think that any given black person is dumber than a white person based on skin color, which would be overt racism. Rather, he's surprised a popular black restaurant didn't exhibit signs of gangsta culture, he assumed the place would be a dangerous locale just because of black clientele. That is the type of subtle dig that bothers blacks.

O'Reilly did a segment and railed against overt racism, but it's the more insidious covert type that is apparently more hurtful.

But I'm a pasty white boy, so what do i know

No doubt you know quite a bit but there's one thing you seem to be overlooking:

http://www.apa.org/journals/releases/neu193288.pdf

I don't see how this adds to the thread. Please restrict your comments to the topic or the moderators will be notified, this I swear!

Help yourself. They won't do anything about it because you told me so in the other thread.

Besides, O'Reilly used sarcasm, which is directly relevant, something certain people in here are entirely overlooking. Either that or they are being purposefully obtuse. Which one applies to you?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


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Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

I'm sorry... I might be what you call a liberal spinning it, but here is the trasncript:

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

I won't say anything, so you won't say I'm spinning it. Just read it. Do you really think it's all right?

You do realize the first bold and the second bold were spoken several minutes apart right? And the context of the discussion plays into this big time. Just listen to the entire audio and dont regurgitate what some spin site edits and puts up as fact.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nick1985
Actually you can hear the unedited discussion on his website. After you listen (which you wont) you will come to find your MediaMatters (blatantly biased liberal site) is the one doing the spinning.


*edit*

Click me


Its amazing how you guys can spin. Orielly has a long discussion condemning racism and discussing why its still prevalent in American society...yet its spun to make him look racist. LOL, say what you want about Orielly, but this is just stupid.

I'm sorry... I might be what you call a liberal spinning it, but here is the trasncript:

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

I won't say anything, so you won't say I'm spinning it. Just read it. Do you really think it's all right?

That is NOT a transcript. It's a quote, a small section of the actual transcipt that has been lifted and analyzed, expecting to stand on its own, without considering the surrounding context of the remaining statements, which tends to distort the entire meaning of the lifted quote.

O'Reilly was not speaking to black people or making an observation about a damn restuarant. He was speaking directly to bigots with those remarks. He was pointing directly at the bigoted stereotypes by using sarcasm. Why the fuck is that concept not sinking in to some people?

I have little doubt that the people perpetuating this "racism" crap know this well already and are simply droning on purely to be impetuous pricks about the situation.

I listened to it. It doesn't sound sarcastic at all to me.

English is not my first language (actually not even the second), so I trust your interpretation.

Your interpretation is bad spin.
What Bill is really saying is see...see those black people really do know how to behave. I discovered this at Sylvias. You see folks they don't all behave like rappers.