Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera goes absolutely ballistic (by their standards) against each other

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Descartes

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: yowolabi
I can't watch the video at work. Can someone give a brief description of what their argument is about?

An illegal immigrant who drove drunk. It seems illegal immigrants are the cause of all or most of our crimes. If we get them out of the country, we will be crime free!

This thread is going to turn political anyway, so I'll rebut.

O'Reilly didn't say that, did he? He pointed out that it was about the guy, not Latinos. I didn't hear him mention anything about increased crime by illegal immigrants. Did he say that?

I thought it was obvious that I was being sarcastic. ;) The whole "illegal immigrants commit crimes so they shouldn't be here" is kind of stupid. It boils down to the fact that they have no right to be here. So just stick with that. Tacking on the "they're going to kill your wives and rape your daughters" b.s. turns it into an emotional argument.

Bill O'Reilly didn't mention other illegal immigrants, but if he didn't want to make a point about illegal immigrants in general then there really was no point to discuss an otherwise insignificant event on his show.

they're gonna eat your babies!

LOL, that's going to make me laugh everytime I hear it. That guy was nuts.

Sorry mugs... not picking up on the sarcasm as readily lately.
 

alien42

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that gave me a headache. i will never understand how the 'illegal immigration' issue gets people so emotionally heated. i wish we could go back to the days right after 9/11 when patriotism brought a sense of unity and togetherness and not such hatred.
 

lupi

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I guess I should start robbing banks and just title myself an illegal bank robber. At least that way I'll have a cover for the cops to not really attempt to apprehend me. I mean, since it's good to be selective about what laws to actually enforce.

While we are at it, toss around some mary jane for everyone. Cause that wouldn't be "rediculous" either.
 

moonbit

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Shens on the whole "blow-up." I believe it was pre-planned. Both O'Reilly and Geraldo are more intelligent men than that to take such black/white views of the issue. Of course, they're paid to do so, because that dumbs down the issue and makes it easier to hook viewers. I'd put money down on there being an O'Reilly vs. Geraldo "rematch" in the near future.

Not to say it isn't entertaining to watch. That's the point. ;)
 

Aimster

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keep treating illegal aliens like animals and they will soon start to act like animals.

With no money coming in and no respect they will be under a lot of pressure. Unable to provide for their families they will snap.
Read your local paper.. recently plenty of murders (family related).
Don't go after the peaceful people who just want to start a better life. Go after the criminals who pollute our streets with violence.
"

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: moonbit
Shens on the whole "blow-up." I believe it was pre-planned. Both O'Reilly and Geraldo are more intelligent men than that to take such black/white views of the issue. Of course, they're paid to do so, because that dumbs down the issue and makes it easier to hook viewers. I'd put money down on there being an O'Reilly vs. Geraldo "rematch" in the near future.

Not to say it isn't entertaining to watch. That's the point. ;)

Eh, I doubt it. If that was planned, then they're amazing actors. The look on O'Reilly's face was definite anger, and the way Geraldo started reaching for ways to justify his position definitely did not seem contrived.

Not that I really care either way.
 

lupi

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wow. Just heard the clip on the VB Mayor response to Oreillys criticism.
 
Having spent a good portion of my life living in or around this area, I never thought of her as much of a leader as her control of the local government has always been much more for the tourist industry that those that live here. Now I'd say it's hard to say she's much less that a total buffoon. Listening to Bush stutter through a speech comes out well spoken compared to that crap she's trying to do. And to be followed up by the police chief saying it's his policy that they don't pursue any action against those suspected of being an illegal. I'll remember that next time they're running a speed trap that and inform them it's not my policy to pay the ticket. wonder how that will go.
 

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Bill has a point. If an illegal immigrant is found, they should be deported. It's that simple. There's been a lot of cases where illegal immigrants have not been deported and have committed serious crimes in the future like this man did. That's not to say that all illegal immigrants drive drunk or kill people, many of them have good intentions. But the bottom line is they shouldn't be here in the first place, and it really is sad when people that shouldn't be here kill American citizens.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
Bill has a point. If an illegal immigrant is found, they should be deported. It's that simple. There's been a lot of cases where illegal immigrants have not been deported and have committed serious crimes in the future like this man did. That's not to say that all illegal immigrants drive drunk or kill people, many of them have good intentions. But the bottom line is they shouldn't be here in the first place, and it really is sad when people that shouldn't be here kill American citizens.

The girl died due to reckless behavior, not to illegal immigrations. Bill is just taking cheap shots at illegal immigrants. If he really did want a much safer world, like i said, why not lock up DUI drivers for life?
 

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Bill has a point. If an illegal immigrant is found, they should be deported. It's that simple. There's been a lot of cases where illegal immigrants have not been deported and have committed serious crimes in the future like this man did. That's not to say that all illegal immigrants drive drunk or kill people, many of them have good intentions. But the bottom line is they shouldn't be here in the first place, and it really is sad when people that shouldn't be here kill American citizens.

The girl died due to reckless behavior, not to illegal immigrations. Bill is just taking cheap shots at illegal immigrants. If he really did want a much safer world, like i said, why not lock up DUI drivers for life?


No one is saying that only illegal immigrants commit crimes. We can't just lock every DUI driver up for life because legal residents of the United States have rights in this county.... due process, no cruel or unusual punishment, etc.

The point here is that ILLEGAL immigrants have no rights in this country. It's not really possible to kick them all out, but if they have already shown that they are not going to obey our laws, they should be kicked out of our country in a heartbeat.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Loon

The girl died due to reckless behavior, not to illegal immigrations. Bill is just taking cheap shots at illegal immigrants. If he really did want a much safer world, like i said, why not lock up DUI drivers for life?


Yeah, if you ignore things like the constitution and bill of rights.
 

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Ok, when did the meaning of the word "illegal" change? I see threads on this forum all the time and it's always you broke the law you got what you deserved. These people are here illegaly and know this, send them home. If a person is breaking the law by entering the country illegally and then compounds the problem by getting a DUI, deport their a**. They broke the law more than once, how many more times do they need to show us they have no respect for our laws? I have no problem with imigration, it's how this country became what it is today. Just do it legally.
 

michaels

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That makes too much sense scttgrd, or in bleeding-heart speak...you are racist and cold-hearted!!!!111!!!111!!!
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: scttgrd
Ok, when did the meaning of the word "illegal" change? I see threads on this forum all the time and it's always you broke the law you got what you deserved. These people are here illegaly and know this, send them home. If a person is breaking the law by entering the country illegally and then compounds the problem by getting a DUI, deport their a**. They broke the law more than once, how many more times do they need to show us they have no respect for our laws? I have no problem with imigration, it's how this country became what it is today. Just do it legally.

I agree. It's clear that our politicians - on both sides of the aisle - want them to keep coming here, or they would have done something about it. So if we're not going to enforce the immigration laws we have we might as well change them to make it easier or possible for the Mexicans who are coming here illegal to come here legally. It's not like the people who come here illegally are doing it because they didn't feel like filling out a form. Letting them come here legally would give our politicians the cheap labor they want, it'd force all Mexicans to pay their share of taxes, etc., and it'd expose the hypocrisy of people who don't have a problem with illegal immigration so much as they have a problem with Mexican immigration.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: scttgrd
Ok, when did the meaning of the word "illegal" change? I see threads on this forum all the time and it's always you broke the law you got what you deserved. These people are here illegaly and know this, send them home. If a person is breaking the law by entering the country illegally and then compounds the problem by getting a DUI, deport their a**. They broke the law more than once, how many more times do they need to show us they have no respect for our laws? I have no problem with imigration, it's how this country became what it is today. Just do it legally.

I agree. It's clear that our politicians - on both sides of the aisle - want them to keep coming here, or they would have done something about it. So if we're not going to enforce the immigration laws we have we might as well change them to make it easier or possible for the Mexicans who are coming here illegal to come here legally. It's not like the people who come here illegally are doing it because they didn't feel like filling out a form. Letting them come here legally would give our politicians the cheap labor they want, it'd force all Mexicans to pay their share of taxes, etc., and it'd expose the hypocrisy of people who don't have a problem with illegal immigration so much as they have a problem with Mexican immigration.

with that said, it has nothing to do with drunk driving.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: scttgrd
Ok, when did the meaning of the word "illegal" change? I see threads on this forum all the time and it's always you broke the law you got what you deserved. These people are here illegaly and know this, send them home. If a person is breaking the law by entering the country illegally and then compounds the problem by getting a DUI, deport their a**. They broke the law more than once, how many more times do they need to show us they have no respect for our laws? I have no problem with imigration, it's how this country became what it is today. Just do it legally.

I agree. It's clear that our politicians - on both sides of the aisle - want them to keep coming here, or they would have done something about it. So if we're not going to enforce the immigration laws we have we might as well change them to make it easier or possible for the Mexicans who are coming here illegal to come here legally. It's not like the people who come here illegally are doing it because they didn't feel like filling out a form. Letting them come here legally would give our politicians the cheap labor they want, it'd force all Mexicans to pay their share of taxes, etc., and it'd expose the hypocrisy of people who don't have a problem with illegal immigration so much as they have a problem with Mexican immigration.

with that said, it has nothing to do with drunk driving.

You're right, it doesn't. But it'd give people one less thing to bitch about. ;)
 

Al Neri

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Originally posted by: eits
geraldo is 100% right... bill o'reilly's 100% a douchebag.

no, geraldo was wrong.

The guy who killed the two girls was supposed to be imprisoned for 90 days, I believe if I am not mistaken because of previous drunk driving cases.

If you are in this country illegally and you commit a felony and are convicted, you get deported when your sentence is up. . why was he not reported to the government on his previous charges? why was he not deported?

 

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I liked the part about Geraldo saying that illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

1. 100% of illegals commited a crime by entering the country through illegal means.
2. They are going to keep a low profile because they are already criminals.
 

Al Neri

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
I liked the part about Geraldo saying that illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

1. 100% of illegals commited a crime by entering the country through illegal means.
2. They are going to keep a low profile because they are already criminals.

he shoots.


he scores!