Bill Cosby meme generator, what could go wrong?

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xBiffx

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It's just like those other high-profile rape accusations... Like remember when dozens of women accused Kobe Bryant of rape? Or Ben Roethlisberger? How many accusations did he get, like 10? Oh, it was just one woman for each of them? Huh, that's odd... I wonder why these women would collude to accuse Bill Cosby of a very specific pattern of rape going back 45 years but no one thought to do that with Kobe or Roethlisberger? Six women have publicly accused Cosby of drugging and raping them in the exact same way, and there were a number of additional anonymous accusers signed on to a class-action lawsuit which was settled out of court a few years back. A minimum of 15 women have accused Cosby of drugging and raping them. It's a pretty enormous leap off conspiracy peak to assume that there's some sort of concerted effort for these women to band together and fabricate allegations to discredit Cosby at this stage of his career even though similar false copycat allegations never accompany other high-profile rape accusations. The evidence is pretty damning, and can't be summarily dismissed with a wave of the hand and an "ah, they just read the news and wanted attention."

Yet not a single shred of forensic evidence exists to date even when you claim the evidence is pretty damning. But yeah, he's a rapist, amiright?
 
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Yet not a single shred of forensic evidence exists to date even when you claim the evidence is pretty damning. But yeah, he's a rapist, amiright?

Yes, the evidence is damning, just like it was for Michael Jackson or OJ (both acquitted). I'm not judging guilt or innocence; that's for the courts. But it is difficult to believe that these women would all come up with the same story over a period of decades despite having no contact with each other. Because these allegations didn't just surface a few weeks ago; the first allegations came out a decade ago. The lack of forensic evidence could certainly be enough to prove his innocence in court. But in light of so many people telling the same story with absolutely nothing to gain from it... well, let's just say I'm telling every woman I know to stay away from Bill Cosby.
 
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^not to nitpick, but it wouldn't prove his innocence, just fail to prove his guilt.

Yeah, sorry about that. I had written it that way initially but the sentence felt cumbersome. I suppose that's not a good justification for a lack of accuracy though.
 

xBiffx

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Yes, the evidence is damning, just like it was for Michael Jackson or OJ (both acquitted). I'm not judging guilt or innocence; that's for the courts. But it is difficult to believe that these women would all come up with the same story over a period of decades despite having no contact with each other. Because these allegations didn't just surface a few weeks ago; the first allegations came out a decade ago. The lack of forensic evidence could certainly be enough to prove his innocence in court. But in light of so many people telling the same story with absolutely nothing to gain from it... well, let's just say I'm telling every woman I know to stay away from Bill Cosby.

I'm glad we don't like in the world according to Atomic Playboy. A world in which just accusations alone are enough to claim evidence of wrongdoing. Sorry, I just like things the way they are now, innocent until proven guilty. Also, don't kid yourself, you are absolutely judging guilt or innocence.

Let me be more clear. I don't care whether he raped those women or not. That has zero effect on my life and my world. I do care if he is allowed to be convicted or treated as if he is a rapist without any evidence other than he said, she said crap. That sets an awful precedent and could definitely effect me and you and anyone else. And no, sorry, numbers don't change that. Bring forward 1000 women who claim he raped them, that still doesn't equate to evidence and therefore proof of guilt. Actually, the more that come forward sans real evidence the more this looks like just a witch hunt.
 

Lash444

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Yet not a single shred of forensic evidence exists to date even when you claim the evidence is pretty damning. But yeah, he's a rapist, amiright?
Biff..You can't even admit that humans are having an effect on climate. GTFO.
No amount of evidence is going to be enough proof for you. The rest of us use our brains and realize that will every report that comes out, the possibility of them being false is nearly zero.
How is it that you can't accept some things that have all the research in the world, but the moment someone posts an anti Obama message you are slurping and spewing it up. Try being your own critical thinker instead of a puppet.
 

xBiffx

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Biff..You can't even admit that humans are having an effect on climate. GTFO.
No amount of evidence is going to be enough proof for you. The rest of us use our brains and realize that will every report that comes out, the possibility of them being false is nearly zero.
How is it that you can't accept some things that have all the research in the world, but the moment someone posts an anti Obama message you are slurping and spewing it up. Try being your own critical thinker instead of a puppet.

ROFL. Duhvert much?

But I'll digress with you. Both are about having evidence and therefore proof. Without that, neither is much more than a unfounded position. I'm OK with unfounded positions but I'm not OK with unfounded positions that are somehow purported as fact.

The puppet would be you.
 

Fritzo

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I don't know what to think about this. Why is everyone coming forward decades after the event? The number of people coming forward makes me suspicious there's some truth to this, but the amount of time (and in some cases the contradictions to stories in books) makes me unsure of what to think.
 

smackababy

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I don't know what to think about this. Why is everyone coming forward decades after the event? The number of people coming forward makes me suspicious there's some truth to this, but the amount of time (and in some cases the contradictions to stories in books) makes me unsure of what to think.

To be fair, people have been coming forward for decades. We just didn't have slow enough news week during a time with the availability of information to be spread like we have today until recently.
 
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Let me be more clear. I don't care whether he raped those women or not. That has zero effect on my life and my world. I do care if he is allowed to be convicted or treated as if he is a rapist without any evidence other than he said, she said crap. That sets an awful precedent and could definitely effect me and you and anyone else. And no, sorry, numbers don't change that. Bring forward 1000 women who claim he raped them, that still doesn't equate to evidence and therefore proof of guilt. Actually, the more that come forward minus real evidence the more this looks like just a witch hunt.

Testimony from victims is real evidence. It may not be as compelling as DNA, but it's absolutely evidence; if it wasn't, we wouldn't bother calling witnesses at trials. And this isn't he said, she said; it's he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said and she said. You're a fool if you don't think that more victims/witnesses doesn't lend more credibility. Could they be lying? Absolutely. But the more people you have giving the same version of events, the more likely we are to accept it as true.

And, honestly, a witch hunt? Why? What possible motivation do these women have for going after Cosby now? "I hated the Cosby show, and now they're giving him another one? NOT ON MY WATCH!" Of all the celebrities they could go after, they settle on one who has a (prior to 2005) sterling reputation and hasn't really worked in the last decade? Why not Jay-Z, who has a reputation as a philanderer and a net worth that dwarfs Cosby's? What is the motivation for their "witch hunt" if it's all based on lies?
 

xBiffx

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Testimony from victims is real evidence. It may not be as compelling as DNA, but it's absolutely evidence; if it wasn't, we wouldn't bother calling witnesses at trials. And this isn't he said, she said; it's he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said and she said. You're a fool if you don't think that more victims/witnesses doesn't lend more credibility. Could they be lying? Absolutely. But the more people you have giving the same version of events, the more likely we are to accept it as true.

Testimony is also something you do while sworn in under oath. Talking to media does not for a second equate to testimony. Sorry that you think that we have any testimony on the matter. Fact is, there has been zero testimony but lots of unfounded statements, like I said. And even in a court of law, testimony minus evidence does not lead to a conviction.

And, honestly, a witch hunt? Why? What possible motivation do these women have for going after Cosby now? "I hated the Cosby show, and now they're giving him another one? NOT ON MY WATCH!" Of all the celebrities they could go after, they settle on one who has a (prior to 2005) sterling reputation and hasn't really worked in the last decade? Why not Jay-Z, who has a reputation as a philanderer and a net worth that dwarfs Cosby's? What is the motivation for their "witch hunt" if it's all based on lies?

The accusers don't have to be the ones conducting a witch hunt. My guess is the media needs a story, so they make a story. Cosby has pissed off plenty with statements and positions he's had in the past. No surprise that not everyone finds him as likeable as you claim to.
 
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Testimony is also something you do while sworn in under oath. Talking to media does not for a second equate to testimony. Sorry that you think that we have any testimony on the matter. Fact is, there has been zero testimony but lots of unfounded statements, like I said. And even in a court of law, testimony minus evidence does not lead to a conviction.

I know testimony without evidence may not lead to a conviction; I specifically said that in an earlier post. As far as not having sworn testimony yet, that's true. But they managed to find 13 people willing to testify against Cosby a decade ago, some of whom are still making allegations today (along with a couple new people who have said they're willing to go to court). Are you assuming that once they get under oath, their story is going to completely change? That seems fairly unlikely. I guess it could happen, but acting as though we have absolutely no personal accounts yet because none of them were given in court is more than a little disingenuous. But hey, who knows how it all shakes out. Maybe he's completely innocent and he'll have an opportunity to prove it in court. Maybe it never goes to court and he remains silent and people just forget about it like they did with Roman Polanski or Woody Allen. We're a pretty forgiving culture when it comes to beloved celebrities.
 

disappoint

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I'm glad we don't like in the world according to Atomic Playboy. A world in which just accusations alone are enough to claim evidence of wrongdoing. Sorry, I just like things the way they are now, innocent until proven guilty. Also, don't kid yourself, you are absolutely judging guilt or innocence.

Let me be more clear. I don't care whether he raped those women or not. That has zero effect on my life and my world.

I'm glad we don't live in a world according to xBiffx, who doesn't care if those women were raped.
 

zinfamous

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Yes, the evidence is damning, just like it was for Michael Jackson or OJ (both acquitted). I'm not judging guilt or innocence; that's for the courts. But it is difficult to believe that these women would all come up with the same story over a period of decades despite having no contact with each other. Because these allegations didn't just surface a few weeks ago; the first allegations came out a decade ago. The lack of forensic evidence could certainly be enough to prove his innocence in court. But in light of so many people telling the same story with absolutely nothing to gain from it... well, let's just say I'm telling every woman I know to stay away from Bill Cosby.

Also, Janice Dickenson is one of the accusers. It's not like she would be out for money.
 
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Hugo Drax

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I don't get why the rape allegations are all of the sudden some kind of big thing. Cosby has been getting accused of raping people for over a decade.


Also, do people really still not understand the internet? Was #askrkelly and #mynypd not evidence enough that if you think this is a good idea, you're an idiot?

The reason the allegations are now a big thing is because the media already got their investment on capital. As long as he was generating a return on investment, the media will keep things in check, since they were long Bill Cosby all those years.

now that he is not generating money for them, they can allow the flood gates to open, and also generate a return on investment by going short Bill Cosby. The Media is double dipping, making money on the short and long.
 

xBiffx

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I'm glad we don't live in a world according to xBiffx, who doesn't care if those women were raped.

Glad we live in a world where you have no reading comprehension. I didn't say that I didn't care that they were raped. I said I didn't care if Cosby raped them or not. Perhaps that difference is a bit nuanced for your comprehension but there is a huge difference between what I said and what you said.

However I will say that as it stands, there is no evidence that those women were raped, by Cosby or anyone else. But if they were in fact raped I hope they get justice.
 
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Glad we live in a world where you have no reading comprehension. I didn't say that I didn't care that they were raped. I said I didn't care if Cosby raped them or not. Perhaps that difference is a bit nuanced for your comprehension but there is a huge difference between what I said and what you said.

However I will say that as it stands, there is no evidence that those women were raped, by Cosby or anyone else. But if they were in fact raped I hope they get justice.

So you care if someone else raped them, but if Bill Cosby did, then you don't care? Really?
 

Dari

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With all these allegations going back decades, how was he able to land the Cosby Show then? I understand he doesn't have the African-American community to fall back on since the two don't get along, so what's left for him? Also, I always wanted to fuck Mrs. Huxtable.
 

xBiffx

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So you care if someone else raped them, but if Bill Cosby did, then you don't care? Really?

You fail miserably at reading comprehension. I don't care about the he said, she said back and forth and baseless allegations that have zero meaning. That part doesn't matter to me. Neither does whether or not Cosby did it or not matter to me. He is no different than anyone else. I do care whether or not they were in fact raped and that they get justice. One is independent of the other.

If any woman gets raped, I'd care about that. I wouldn't care about who did it. I also wouldn't care if all there was was an allegation of rape with nothing to back it up.

So basically, just to make it simple for you. I don't care about Cosby allegedly raping a bunch of women. What he does or doesn't do certainly doesn't matter to my life.
 
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z1ggy

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Somebody catch me up- did he just fondle some intern or legit rape women (allegedly).

I do find it odd now a host of women are coming out all at once. Not sure if it's because they feel safer/think it's easier this way, or if they are going after some cash/fame.

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