Bill Cosby meme generator, what could go wrong?

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preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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Please, duhvert more. Its entertaining when you have no argument left to make.

Evidence isn't hearsay or he said/she said and its especially not evidence for proving rape. Are you honestly going to stand by your fast and loose argument? Because that's all I've been saying.

First hand testimony is not hearsay. And first hand testimony that is corroborated by other, unrelated victims, becomes very strong evidence.

Only rape apologists think that it's possible for 15 women to all be lying gold diggers, when their stories are all similar and have been coming out for years.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Devils advocate: it's pretty easy to have similar stories when you can just copy what you've heard on the news. No?
 

zinfamous

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Devils advocate: it's pretty easy to have similar stories when you can just copy what you've heard on the news. No?

Indeed. But since the oldest allegations had probably been independent and very much out of the public eye, I think it's worth considering the initial details of those allegations that occurred without the same type of public influence.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Devils advocate: it's pretty easy to have similar stories when you can just copy what you've heard on the news. No?

The earliest allegations came out a long time ago and independently. So, no.
 

Artorias

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I don't understand how he got away with it and did it to some many people, like did invite people individually and drug them? He sure isn't over powering anybody through physical force, though I guess if they were young it can happen.
 

zinfamous

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I don't understand how he got away with it and did it to some many people, like did invite people individually and drug them? He sure isn't over powering anybody through physical force, though I guess if they were young it can happen.


...are there people that still aren't doing the math on the fact that this stuff goes back 40+ years?
 
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I don't understand how he got away with it and did it to some many people, like did invite people individually and drug them? He sure isn't over powering anybody through physical force, though I guess if they were young it can happen.

He's 6'1", he was a multi-sport athlete and he was in the Navy. You really don't think he could overpower a small woman?
 

zinfamous

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He's 6'1", he was a multi-sport athlete and he was in the Navy. You really don't think he could overpower a small woman?

I interpreted that response from a perspective that this is all new stuff--basically thinking that this 80 year old dude is raping everybody up in here.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Oct 16, 2008
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I don't know what Bill Cosby did or did not do, but I don't think it should distract from his thoughtful deconstruction of the self-destruction manifest in the urban community by sociological factors outside the control of anyone but under complete control by everyone.
 

xBiffx

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First hand testimony is not hearsay. And first hand testimony that is corroborated by other, unrelated victims, becomes very strong evidence.

Only rape apologists think that it's possible for 15 women to all be lying gold diggers, when their stories are all similar and have been coming out for years.

These women claim they were drugged, their memories clouded by that, yet somehow they remember enough detail 30 or even 50 years later to be able to definitely claim rape. Sounds like strong evidence to me. :rolleyes:

You can claim corroborating but when the victims get to read each other's accounts, any rational person expect more of a burden of proof than "corroboration."

Calling those who question the narrative of this story rape apologist only displays your own unwillingness to treat people innocent until they are proven guilty. Actually, giving any credence to these women's story without any hard evidence makes you look like the one with an agenda here. I am all for justice, but accusing and condemning someone of rape simply based on he said/she said is wrong.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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I don't understand how he got away with it and did it to some many people, like did invite people individually and drug them? He sure isn't over powering anybody through physical force, though I guess if they were young it can happen.

It was a different world back then. Men were very dominant and women were very subservient. We changed a LOT during the 80's and 90's regarding women's place in society, so actions of that time are unrecognizable today.
 

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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Personally I think this is probably a lot more to do with their willingness to attach themselves to him and do certain things and now turn around and claim "rape". The fact they wouldn't do a single thing for decades and then suddenly jump on the bandwagon only provides further evidence of this.

I doubt he was running around raping women to rape women. If anything he partied and they went along with it and now society's definition of rape has changed where the man is 100% at fault for anything.
 

xBiffx

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Personally I think this is probably a lot more to do with their willingness to attach themselves to him and do certain things and now turn around and claim "rape". The fact they wouldn't do a single thing for decades and then suddenly jump on the bandwagon only provides further evidence of this.

Agreed. Also its worth noting Cosby's increase in worth over that amount of time. He was practically a nobody when some of these alleged incidents occurred. Or at least, his career wasn't at its pinnacle.

If this was such a huge deal to these women, they wouldn't have waited decades to come out and say something.

And if he did in fact rape all these women, he is the master of evasion.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Ah yes, the good old days, when "roofie" was short for "consent."

You have no idea whether these women consented or even if he were in a position to diabolically rape them. In these days it is *ALWAYS* the mans fault. It is automatically assumed that the women could *NEVER* do anything wrong, like spread her legs for some minor celeb while partying. Now it's just "hey, I got raped because we were partying and we had sex".

This is part of the war on men.


How dare anybody just assume that people were drugged up and having sex with whoever they could when they could. Nope, just the man's fault.
 

SlitheryDee

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Feb 2, 2005
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Ah yes, the good old days, when "roofie" was short for "consent."

People throw around the term "roofie" a lot where it doesn't belong though. I personally have 2-3 friends with stories about times they were supposedly roofied, and have heard stories from far more people than that. For most of them there would seem to be no point to drug them. For one thing they're all men, and male rape is such an infrequent occurrence that I would be surprised to have ever heard from even one person who had experienced it. For another none of them ended up getting raped, they just all felt a bit woozier than the amount of alcohol they consumed would seem to indicate. Of course they're never 100% sure exactly how much alcohol they really had on those nights either. All of them think that it's impossible that what might have been their 4th or might have been their 17th vodka shot might have tipped them over the edge all by itself, or maybe it was the prescription opiates they forgot about that someone was passing around to improve the levity of the night. Nope, they were definitely roofied by one of what is always a decently long list of people who they think have it in for them. I think it's a kind of narcissism really that causes them to think anyone cares enough one way or another to drug them out of spite.

Of course the situation is different when we have a lot of women who specifically remember some suspicious and ill-define "medicine" that they strangely enough took without question and with no apparent need for any kind of medicine. I think that despite their stories, most of them thought they were taking something that would get them high, and good old Bill said nothing to dispose them of that idea. Perhaps that was exactly what it did too, in addition to eventually rendering them insensate so he could get busy.