Bill Cosby in the spotlight looking good!

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he should just make an official apology like bill clinton and move on.

Drugging and raping dozens of women is just like consensual oral sex between a supervisor and subordinate employee. Or did you mean for something like NAFTA (which I don't think Bill actually apologized for)? Either way, I think the Cos has a pretty steep uphill climb to get back into everyone's good graces; I don't think an apology is quite going to cut it.
 

kage69

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I don't think Cosby is looking good at all, quite the opposite actually.

Admitting to buying drugs to incapacitate a woman gives you a good glimpse into how his moral compass works. That's no big deal the same way Michael Jackson serving 'jesus juice' to underage boys in a hot tub is no big deal. :hmm:

There's enough sleazy, predatory details out now that I'm putting Cosby into the Woody Allen category. You can like him all you want, but you won't find any of his material in my house anymore, and I'll never see him as a great like George Carlin ever again.

Cosby once admitted Carlin was the only guy he ever stole from. I get the feeling he's got a lot more inappropriate tales to tell. Powerful men with lots of money like him get catered too while they are breaking the law; I take it many of you have heard of Jimmy Saville?
 

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I don't think Cosby is looking good at all, quite the opposite actually.
Thread title is old.

Admitting to buying drugs to incapacitate a woman gives you a good glimpse into how his moral compass works. That's no big deal the same way Michael Jackson serving 'jesus juice' to underage boys in a hot tub is no big deal. :hmm:
That isn't what his admission said at all. Was this "Jesus Juice" also proven or was it an allegation from the same family that lost in court?

There's enough sleazy, predatory details out now that I'm putting Cosby into the Woody Allen category. You can like him all you want, but you won't find any of his material in my house anymore, and I'll never see him as a great like George Carlin ever again.
Same here.
 
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Could someone please add some context to all of this. It was the Seventies. People were routinely doing lots of drugs, probably even Bill. Was it common for people to take quaaludes just to get high like people marijuana today? Guys and girls give each other all sorts of drugs prior to intercourse for the purposes of simply getting high, and it's not always necessarily for the purposes of rape. In the context of the Seventies, would that have been common? Also, was it ever reported if the women took the quaaludes voluntarily, or did he admit that he was trying to trick them into taking the quaaludes?

From the Wikipedia entry for quaaludes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone

The drug was popular in the 1970s with hippies and in the disco club scene.

Methaqualone became increasingly popular as a recreational drug in the late 1960s and early 1970s, known variously as 'ludes or sopers (also soapers) in the U.S. and mandrakes and mandies in the UK, Australia and South Africa.

The drug was often used by hippies and by people who went dancing at glam rock clubs in the early 1970s and at discos in the late 1970s. (One slang term for Quaalude was disco biscuits.) In the mid-1970s there were bars in Manhattan called juice bars that only served non-alcoholic drinks that catered to people who liked to dance on methaqualone. Smoking methaqualone, either by itself or as an adulterant added to various legal and illegal smoking mixtures, gained popularity in the US for a few years during the mid-1970s.
 
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Could someone please add some context to all of this. It was the Seventies. People were routinely doing lots of drugs, probably even Bill. Was it common for people to take quaaludes just to get high like people marijuana today?

Absolutely. A lot of people on this thread, and elsewhere have no frickin idea what they are yammering about. It is amazing. I'm sure Cosby offered ludes to plenty of women. It was very common, especially for rich people back then. And when you do that you basically have to make a judgement call as to how much a particular person can take, but you cant possibly know for sure. Sometimes they get a perfect high. Sometimes they frickin pass out. What happens then? Who really knows. No one can say for sure. I'm sure there was at least a few who said "I want to get fucked up and fucked", before even taking any drugs. What I want to know is ... where the hell is the evidence. Is there any actual evidence that anything nonconsensual occured, or is it just a bunch of idiots being idiots? Where are the bastard children? Why arent these women rolling those kids out?
 
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CZroe

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Absolutely. A lot of people on this thread, and elsewhere have no frickin idea what they are yammering about. It is amazing. I'm sure Cosby offered ludes to plenty of women. It was very common, especially for rich people back then. And when you do that you basically have to make a judgement call as to how much a particular person can take, but you cant possibly know for sure. Sometimes they get a perfect high. Sometimes they frickin pass out. What happens then? Who really knows. No one can say for sure. I'm sure there was at least a few who said "I want to get fucked up and fucked", before even taking any drugs. What I want to know is ... where the hell is the evidence. Is there any actual evidence that anything nonconsensual occured, or is it just a bunch of idiots being idiots? Where are the bastard children? Why arent these women rolling those kids out?
Not just this thread. The news articles linked to got statements from alleged victims jumping to the same conclusions for the express purpose of implying that something different was said than what was actually said. Watch out though: trying to protect people from making their own stupid assumptions only gets you attacked as a defender of an "admitted" rapist. :rolleyes:

English. Learn it.
 

PokerGuy

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If it was one or even two people coming forward decades later with unsubstantiated claims, that would be one thing, but when you have literally dozens of women coming forward with similar stories, it creates a very convincing picture. I certainly will never look at Cosby as anything other than a rapist that got away with it, much like I looked at OJ after he was found not guilty at his first trial.

This "admisssion" that he gave women quaaludes doesn't say much though. It certainly doesn't say what the media is saying (there's a shocker!). He didn't say he gave it to them to incapacitate them and thus commit rape, just that he gave them to them. That's a big difference.
 

CZroe

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Absolutely. A lot of people on this thread, and elsewhere have no frickin idea what they are yammering about. It is amazing. I'm sure Cosby offered ludes to plenty of women. It was very common, especially for rich people back then. And when you do that you basically have to make a judgement call as to how much a particular person can take, but you cant possibly know for sure. Sometimes they get a perfect high. Sometimes they frickin pass out. What happens then? Who really knows. No one can say for sure. I'm sure there was at least a few who said "I want to get fucked up and fucked", before even taking any drugs. What I want to know is ... where the hell is the evidence. Is there any actual evidence that anything nonconsensual occured, or is it just a bunch of idiots being idiots? Where are the bastard children? Why arent these women rolling those kids out?
Sex, 'ludes, and the '70s.

His particular perversion was apparently masturbating over them, so there won't be too many love children.
 

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If it was one or even two people coming forward decades later with unsubstantiated claims, that would be one thing, but when you have literally dozens of women coming forward with similar stories, it creates a very convincing picture. I certainly will never look at Cosby as anything other than a rapist that got away with it, much like I looked at OJ after he was found not guilty at his first trial.

Exactly. Is there enough evidence to convict Cosby of criminal charges? I have no idea. The thing is that my opinion isn't held to the same standard as criminal charges. There appears to be more than sufficient evidence to indicate that Cosby likely committed multiple severe sexual offenses.

It comes down to whether you think it is more likely there is a far reaching, multi-decade conspiracy between dozens of women to smear a beloved comedian or if it's more likely that the beloved comedian was a sex offender. This is not a hard choice.
 

PokerGuy

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Exactly. Is there enough evidence to convict Cosby of criminal charges? I have no idea. The thing is that my opinion isn't held to the same standard as criminal charges. There appears to be more than sufficient evidence to indicate that Cosby likely committed multiple severe sexual offenses.

It comes down to whether you think it is more likely there is a far reaching, multi-decade conspiracy between dozens of women to smear a beloved comedian or if it's more likely that the beloved comedian was a sex offender. This is not a hard choice.

:thumbsup:

It's very likely that his status as a beloved comedian with a lot of money to hire lawyers shielded him for years. Women were afraid to come forward, and his team of lawyers made sure things stayed under wraps.

I doubt he gets criminally charged because of the SOL's in play, but that doesn't make him a good person.
 
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If it was one or even two people coming forward decades later with unsubstantiated claims, that would be one thing, but when you have literally dozens of women coming forward with similar stories, it creates a very convincing picture. I certainly will never look at Cosby as anything other than a rapist that got away with it, much like I looked at OJ after he was found not guilty at his first trial.

This "admission" that he gave women quaaludes doesn't say much though. It certainly doesn't say what the media is saying (there's a shocker!). He didn't say he gave it to them to incapacitate them and thus commit rape, just that he gave them to them. That's a big difference.

I agree on all counts. I will say that I do consider his admission regarding the Quaaludes significant, though. Quaaludes are not like, say, cocaine - they were created as a sedative and would certainly (even if taken intentionally) have helped Cosby if his objective was to engage in a sex act with an unconscious, or at least non-resistant, woman. Roman Polanski gave alcohol and Quaaludes to his victim, for example.
 

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My opinion is that I could give a shit either way. I don't know the man, I never accepted any drugs from him, and none of this has anything to do with enjoying his on screen/stage performances. If he is/was a rapist, he was a rapist that had a successful career. People want to all of sudden distance themselves from him for fear of being accused a rapist supporter. Quite simply put, you aren't for enjoying him throughout his career. Sorry, you can't support something you have knowledge of or hasn't been proven. And if accusations are proof to you and that makes you feel bad for liking him, well that's your issue to work out, not mine.

People want to compare him to OJ. Okay, I guess. Was OJ all of a sudden a shitty football player after his trial? One has nothing to do with the other.
 

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Given that these forums are not a court of law and I am not on a jury. I am not required to adhere to innocent until proven guilty. I am free to think that the accusations of over 30 women and his own admission of giving drugs to women he wants to have sex with, means he is very likely a serial rapist.

I wouldn't convict him with the known evidence, but I certainly wouldn't want any woman I care about near the guy.
 

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My opinion is that I could give a shit either way. I don't know the man, I never accepted any drugs from him, and none of this has anything to do with enjoying his on screen/stage performances. If he is/was a rapist, he was a rapist that had a successful career. People want to all of sudden distance themselves from him for fear of being accused a rapist supporter. Quite simply put, you aren't for enjoying him throughout his career. Sorry, you can't support something you have knowledge of or hasn't been proven. And if accusations are proof to you and that makes you feel bad for liking him, well that's your issue to work out, not mine.

People want to compare him to OJ. Okay, I guess. Was OJ all of a sudden a shitty football player after his trial? One has nothing to do with the other.

Yikes.

The tard is strong with this one.
 
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My opinion is that I could give a shit either way. I don't know the man, I never accepted any drugs from him, and none of this has anything to do with enjoying his on screen/stage performances. If he is/was a rapist, he was a rapist that had a successful career. People want to all of sudden distance themselves from him for fear of being accused a rapist supporter. Quite simply put, you aren't for enjoying him throughout his career. Sorry, you can't support something you have knowledge of or hasn't been proven. And if accusations are proof to you and that makes you feel bad for liking him, well that's your issue to work out, not mine.

People want to compare him to OJ. Okay, I guess. Was OJ all of a sudden a shitty football player after his trial? One has nothing to do with the other.

This post strikes me as fairly vacuous.

You are certainly right that Cosby has a body of work that has nothing to do with whether or not he is a rapist, and there is nothing wrong with having enjoyed his work. Still, it seems to me anyone who, like me, is reasonably convinced that he is a rapist will take a different view of that body of work and, more to the point, whether I want to put money in his pockets by supporting any new projects he might create.

By way of analogy, OJ's rushing statistics are what they are (and they are very impressive), but the fact that he is very likely a murderer and is, most definitely, a convicted felon is enough to convince me not to buy his jersey. I will also not be watching any new Cosby comedy specials, should one ever emerge (which seems doubtful at this point).
 

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I agree on all counts. I will say that I do consider his admission regarding the Quaaludes significant, though. Quaaludes are not like, say, cocaine - they were created as a sedative and would certainly (even if taken intentionally) have helped Cosby if his objective was to engage in a sex act with an unconscious, or at least non-resistant, woman. Roman Polanski gave alcohol and Quaaludes to his victim, for example.
Agreed. It's also illustrative that his lawyer objected to Cosby answering the question of whether he had ever given such drugs to a woman without her knowledge. He settled to avoid answering that question under oath, in my opinion.

Sad - I had a great deal of respect for Cosby and really did not want to believe this.
 

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This post strikes me as fairly vacuous.

You are certainly right that Cosby has a body of work that has nothing to do with whether or not he is a rapist, and there is nothing wrong with having enjoyed his work. Still, it seems to me anyone who, like me, is reasonably convinced that he is a rapist will take a different view of that body of work and, more to the point, whether I want to put money in his pockets by supporting any new projects he might create.

By way of analogy, OJ's rushing statistics are what they are (and they are very impressive), but the fact that he is very likely a murderer and is, most definitely, a convicted felon is enough to convince me not to buy his jersey. I will also not be watching any new Cosby comedy specials, should one ever emerge (which seems doubtful at this point).

I guess I'm saying I don't feel the need to distance myself from him because I wasn't that close to begin with. I enjoyed his work, that's about it. If he is a rapist, I would denounce that and view him accordingly. But that doesn't mean that I don't value his work. I can't all of a sudden not like it just because. But I would definitely watch Cosby reruns with a different perspective.

What someone produces and who or what that person is can be completely independent from one another. Many artists of all kinds have been many (some deplorable) things but that doesn't mean they weren't also great artists.
 
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I can probably cross post this here:
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I had honestly never heard a 714 called a "Disco Biscuit" even at the time.

Was kind of amusing to hear that term used in passing when re watching Snatch the other day as just a throw off in conversation.
 

MongGrel

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Yikes.

The tard is strong with this one.

I tend to agree.

Seems he just showed up again lately.

He seems to have a lot of knowledge about metro areas, living in that cornfield, trying to do statistics with a chalkboard apparently.

:colbert:
 
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cKGunslinger

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As a politically incorrect uncle Tom, who has pissed off many a liberal, is it any wonder that there could be a mob of character assassins? I'm not buying it. They all had their opportunity to file criminal complaints. They all waited until now. I smell a fish, a rat and gold digging beavers.

Yes, yes - a huge liberal conspiracy, decades in the making.

o_O