Bill Bennett quote

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Most violent crime in the inner cities is caused by blacks. Get rid of them, and the crime goes away, just as if you lined them against the wall and shot everyone.

replace crime with money and black with jew, and you'd be labeled anti-semetic for even thinking it. so that either makes you a racist just like Bill Bennett, or you don't know what you're talking about.

No one argued for that as a way of crime control.

he thought it up, that is good enough motivation for me. Maybe people shouldn't stay stupid things, course then he'd have no show.

I don't give a rats ass what you label me. You would be an idiot but go for it.

THE CALLER DIDNT ASK ABOUT MONEY AND JEWS

I'll turn this around. Since you disagree with Benett, you think abortion should be used to lower crimes. Since it is a fact that most violent crimes are done by blacks, you support the selective abortion of blacks!

You racist!

Damn, can't people even read? Did you even hear it? Did you read where he said it would NOT be OK?

If Jessie Jackson said that some conservatives would like get rid of blacks you would be calling Jackson racist? Well he would have used "those words"

Think goddammit

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Most violent crime in the inner cities is caused by blacks. Get rid of them, and the crime goes away, just as if you lined them against the wall and shot everyone.

replace crime with money and black with jew, and you'd be labeled anti-semetic for even thinking it. so that either makes you a racist just like Bill Bennett, or you don't know what you're talking about.

No one argued for that as a way of crime control.

you think abortion should be used to lower crimes.

Such a diseased statement would have never crossed my mind to begin with. Maybe Bill thinks a little to much.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Most violent crime in the inner cities is caused by blacks. Get rid of them, and the crime goes away, just as if you lined them against the wall and shot everyone.

replace crime with money and black with jew, and you'd be labeled anti-semetic for even thinking it. so that either makes you a racist just like Bill Bennett, or you don't know what you're talking about.

No one argued for that as a way of crime control.

you think abortion should be used to lower crimes.

Such a diseased statement would have never crossed my mind to begin with. Maybe Bill thinks a little to much.

Then get out more. There is a hell of a lot bad going on in the world. I am no fan of Bennett, but I understood his point. What is happening is that the left is trying to spray him like a skunk just the same as Rush and his loosers do. Even Al Franken understood what he meant. Get over the words, and get context.
I don't care who says something, but when anyone gets smeared for saying something, and others try to stick a whole other context onto it, it's wrong. Left or Right.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Most violent crime in the inner cities is caused by blacks. Get rid of them, and the crime goes away, just as if you lined them against the wall and shot everyone.

replace crime with money and black with jew, and you'd be labeled anti-semetic for even thinking it. so that either makes you a racist just like Bill Bennett, or you don't know what you're talking about.

No one argued for that as a way of crime control.

you think abortion should be used to lower crimes.

Such a diseased statement would have never crossed my mind to begin with. Maybe Bill thinks a little to much.

Then get out more. There is a hell of a lot bad going on in the world. I am no fan of Bennett, but I understood his point. What is happening is that the left is trying to spray him like a skunk just the same as Rush and his loosers do. Even Al Franken understood what he meant. Get over the words, and get context.
I don't care who says something, but when anyone gets smeared for saying something, and others try to stick a whole other context onto it, it's wrong. Left or Right.

how funny you telling me to get out more when you have 3x the post count that I do.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Amazing that you take something out of context while condemning others for taking Bennett's remarks out of context.

Go ahead and quote for me where exactly I "condemned others for taking Bennett's remarks out of context," as I'd be interested in seeing something I never even thought, much less posted.

That was the quote that prompted mine. Notice the bolded part? She was offended about abortion. The OP of that did not make any reference to her being offended by the racist remarks at all. Now, he and his coworkers have to go to sensitivity training because they were discussing abortion.

Gotcha now. I missed that part before. My apologies.

 

[wiin]

Conjur:

AM radio talking heads spew nothing but hatred. How else would they get the morans to listen to them and keep their ratings up?

If that were the case, Air AmericaScam wouldn't be stealing money from the poor.

 

[conjur]

:roll:


for the BS-spreading fool.

 

[Proletariat]

Why don't we eliminate whites?

We are a disease that has caused untold suffering to every race around this world.

Isn't that as true as blacks cause crime?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Why don't we eliminate whites?

We are a disease that has caused untold suffering to every race around this world.

Isn't that as true as blacks cause crime?

You're sorely missing the point, Pro. No one here is calling for the elimination of any race. You're arguing against your own strawman and still not putting up much of a fight.

 

[Proletariat]

What I'm trying to say is that if he said that he would be fired and be in tremendous trouble.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Why don't we eliminate whites?

We are a disease that has caused untold suffering to every race around this world.

Isn't that as true as blacks cause crime?

You're sorely missing the point, Pro. No one here is calling for the elimination of any race. You're arguing against your own strawman and still not putting up much of a fight.

Honestly, the left leaning here are being just as stupid as the right calling people against the war unpatriotic.

Bennett says it's wrong, and everyone there jumps on him? Because he used the "b" word?

Bah, stupidity.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Why don't we eliminate whites?

We are a disease that has caused untold suffering to every race around this world.

Isn't that as true as blacks cause crime?

You're sorely missing the point, Pro. No one here is calling for the elimination of any race. You're arguing against your own strawman and still not putting up much of a fight.

Honestly, the left leaning here are being just as stupid as the right calling people against the war unpatriotic.

Bennett says it's wrong, and everyone there jumps on him? Because he used the "b" word?

Bah, stupidity.

Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Why don't we eliminate whites?

We are a disease that has caused untold suffering to every race around this world.

Isn't that as true as blacks cause crime?

You're sorely missing the point, Pro. No one here is calling for the elimination of any race. You're arguing against your own strawman and still not putting up much of a fight.

Honestly, the left leaning here are being just as stupid as the right calling people against the war unpatriotic.

Bennett says it's wrong, and everyone there jumps on him? Because he used the "b" word?

Bah, stupidity.

Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BENNETT IN THIS CASE.

He was using the example to point the absurdity of the callers suggestion by using an absurd case.

OK, so you are taking the opposite position of Bennetts. You are arguing for the selective abortion of blacks.

You are Anti Bennett, therefore it MUST be true. Genocide Genocide!!

Get a grip.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

:roll: Yeah, the best way to combat racism is to immediately label anyone who mentions a particular race a "racist," no matter what the context or meaning of the message.

It must be quite the burden knowing that you alone are the only non-racist, decent human being on the planet. Try to pat yourself on differnt spots on your back, lest you begin to bruise.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

:roll: Yeah, the best way to combat racism is to immediately label anyone who mentions a particular race a "racist," no matter what the context or meaning of the message.

It must be quite the burden knowing that you alone are the only non-racist, decent human being on the planet. Try to pat yourself on differnt spots on your back, lest you begin to bruise.

That's why I hate this PC crap. I suppose Al Franken must be a right wing nutjob, because he defended Bennett. One thing I'll say for Al, I may not agree with everything he says, but at least he doesnt go off like an asshole without at least trying to understand what someone meant.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

Why confront it when they feel like they are the victimized white conservative warriors..

You have happened upon the ugly face of suburban america uber alles...it's like that old minor threat song, "Screaming at a wall".

Someday hopefully they will learn something about community, but regardless in the meantime they will be another generation of apathetic racists and nationialists selling themelves out.

My advice, get involved in direct action in your community, you are wasting your time talking to self-blinded, complacent robots in here.

Take matters into your own hands to promote change.

Good luck to you and may the gods protect us from america.









"Stars And Stripes Of Corruption"

Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
I couldn't wait
I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
My heart began to pound
Yahoo! It really exists
The American International Pictures logo

I looked up at that Capitol Building
Couldn't help but wonder why
I felt like saying "Hello, old friend"

Walked up the hill to touch it
Then I unzipped my pants
And pissed on it when nobody was looking

Like a great eternal Klansman
With his two flashing red eyes
Turn around he's always watching
The Washington monument pricks the sky
With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom

The symbols of our heritage
Lit up proudly in the night
Somehow fits to see the homeless people
Passed out on the lawn

So this is where it happens
The power games and bribes
All lobbying for a piece of ass

Of the stars and stripes of corruption
Makes me feel so ashamed
To be an American
When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
Trying to start another Viet Nam
Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home
The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the Japanese"
"America's back," alright
At the game it plays the worst
Strip mining the world like a slave plantation

No wonder others hate us
And the Hitlers we handpick
To bleed their people dry
For our evil empire

The drug we're fed
To make us like it
Is God and country with a band

People we know who should know better
Howl, "America riles. Let's go to war!"
Business scams are what's worth dying for

Are the Soviets our worst enemy?
We're destroying ourselves instead
Who cares about our civil rights
As long as I get paid?

The blind Me-Generation
Doesn't care if life's a lie

so easily used, so proud to enforce

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
Tell me who's the real patriots
The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?
Or the people with the guts to work
For some real change
Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
Our real test of strength is caring
Not the toys of war we sell the world
Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
Old glory for a blanket
As you suck on your thumbs

Real freedom scares you
'Cos it means responsibility

So you chicken out and threaten me

Saying, "Love it or leave it"
I'll get beat up if I criticize it
You say you'll fight to the death
To save your worthless flag

If you want a banana republic that bad
Why don't you go move to one
But what can just one of us do?
Against all that money and power
Trying to crush us into roaches?

We don't destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first
From the inside out

We can start by not lying so much
And treating other people like dirt
It's easy not to base our lives
On how much we can scam

And you know
It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs

I'm thankful I live in a place
Where I can say the things I do
Without being taken out and shot
So I'm on guard against the goons
Trying to take my rights away
We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws

Let kids learn communication
Instead of schools pushing competition
How about more art and theater instead of sports?

People will always do drugs
Let's legalize them
Crime drops when the mob can't price them
Budget's in the red?
Let's tax religion

No one will do it for us
We'll just have to fix ourselves
Honesty ain't all that hard
Just put Rambo back inside your pants
Causing trouble for the system is much more fun

Thank you for the toilet paper
But your flag is meaningless to me
Look around, we're all people
Who needs countries anyway?

Our land, I love it too
I think I love it more than you
I care enough to fight

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
If we don't try
If we just lie
If we can't find
A way to do it better than this
Who will?

-Dead Kennedys

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

:roll: Yeah, the best way to combat racism is to immediately label anyone who mentions a particular race a "racist," no matter what the context or meaning of the message.

It must be quite the burden knowing that you alone are the only non-racist, decent human being on the planet. Try to pat yourself on differnt spots on your back, lest you begin to bruise.

Ok I took a time out.

Sorry sometimes the weight of the world fvcks me up, OK? I know you are a good guy CK and I should have elaborated on this earlier but I was all riled up. I know Bennett probably didn't mean much by his statement and was going off on a fairly intellectual tangent. But what does the average person who listens to his problem think man. They probably take their assumptions about blacks and block out the rest of his tirade. The only thing they hear is aborting black babies. You know its true. Just go to ATOT it reeks of the waste products of conservative intellectualism.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

Why confront it when they feel like they are the victimized white conservative warriors..

You have happened upon the ugly face of suburban america uber alles...it's like that old minor threat song, "Screaming at a wall".

Someday hopefully they will learn something about community, but regardless in the meantime they will be another generation of apathetic racists and nationialists selling themelves out.

My advice, get involved in direct action in your community, you are wasting your time talking to self-blinded, complacent robots in here.

Take matters into your own hands to promote change.

Good luck to you and may the gods protect us from america.

The thing is I don't think CK and Hayabusa are self-blinded complacent robots.

Great song tho.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Yea and you're the smart guy.

Fvck this I'm just to pissed to deal with you people right now.

This country is a racist cesspool and its never going to change as long as people don't confront it.

Why confront it when they feel like they are the victimized white conservative warriors..

You have happened upon the ugly face of suburban america uber alles...it's like that old minor threat song, "Screaming at a wall".

Someday hopefully they will learn something about community, but regardless in the meantime they will be another generation of apathetic racists and nationialists selling themelves out.

My advice, get involved in direct action in your community, you are wasting your time talking to self-blinded, complacent robots in here.

Take matters into your own hands to promote change.

Good luck to you and may the gods protect us from america.

The thing is I don't think CK and Hayabusa are self-blinded complacent robots.

Great song tho.

Hehe, I don't think we are either.

It's like this. There is always some crap going on in peoples minds. Even if you aren't racist you are race aware. One can get into all kinds of tangents on this, and that's what has happened with a lot of people.

My way of looking at things is to see what is said, the context of it, and weigh it against what I know. I do that before considering WHO said it. That's why I don't label myself conservative or liberal or whatever. That doesn't do much for me. The truth of a matter is more important.

In the context of the question given Bennett, he replied by citing an example that most would find reprehensible. I think you would agree. He was saying of all the arguments against abortion, reducing crime was a lame one.

I happened to hear the clip including what was said before and after. He did not an ANY way imply this is what should happen, in fact he took great pains to verbally emphasize it should not.

That is why I am generally pissed off about how people are thinking of this issue. If you want to go on about racism and such, from his comments, Bennett is someone you could cite (in this specific instance) of someone AGAINST abuse of black children.

There are many reasons not to like people and particular philsophies, however that isn't my concern here. The truth of the matter as it happened in full context is.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Ok I took a time out.

Always a good idea. I did as well.

Sorry sometimes the weight of the world fvcks me up, OK? I know you are a good guy CK and I should have elaborated on this earlier but I was all riled up. I know Bennett probably didn't mean much by his statement and was going off on a fairly intellectual tangent. But what does the average person who listens to his problem think man. They probably take their assumptions about blacks and block out the rest of his tirade. The only thing they hear is aborting black babies.

I simply refuse to believe that. I don't know where the notion that most people are brain-dead racists started, but it's certainly a hindrance to intelligent debate. Most people are honest, fair, law-abiding citizens who are worried about paying bills on time, keeping their kids safe, and other such simplistic, personal issues - not rampant, gun-toting, violent racists who spend every waking minute plotting and planning on new and improved ways to oppress and condemn a group of people, while actively listening for and recruiting new, like-minded members.

Sure, there are some morons who will hear what they want in order to try and justify their own fvcked-up ideas, but that certainly goes both ways. I see your pal Steep falling into that trap moreso than I see anyone else here promoting racism. The whole "White Man's Burden" is just as overly simplistic and useless as it's counterpart, racism. I do applaud you, at least, for discussing the issue, instead of resorting to childish rants and posts.

You know its true. Just go to ATOT it reeks of the waste products of conservative intellectualism.

I don't know what your fetish with that forum is, but to use that place to attempt to extrapolate any meaningful data about the world is foolhardy, at best.