Biden Considering Filibuster Exception for Voting Rights

[brycejones]

We live in a Republic you fuck hole

This has to be one of the great self owns in P&N history.

 

[conehead433]

Trump said Republicans will never be elected again if Democrats pass their voting rights bill

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Well I guess if we were to have free and fair elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. that Republicans would never win. I hate to admit that Trump is ever right about anything, but he is right about this. Of course his claim that legal votes would be replaced with illegal votes is pure horseshit. It has never been important in this country to pass some form of a voting rights bill or we will be doomed to being ruled by a minority party indefinitely.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trump said Republicans will never be elected again if Democrats pass their voting rights bill

MSN

Well I guess if we were to have free and fair elections without gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. that Republicans would never win. I hate to admit that Trump is ever right about anything, but he is right about this. Of course his claim that legal votes would be replaced with illegal votes is pure horseshit. It has never been important in this country to pass some form of a voting rights bill or we will be doomed to being ruled by a minority party indefinitely.

Any vote against a Republican is treason and should not count. They are the party of God. When you are as mentally ill that such thinking is appealing, you need God as moral cover. You can't just think of it as delusional selfishness based on a comforting ego identification, you need to be absolutely right. Between becoming aware one is a narcissistic swine and a solder of God you need a lot of mental padding.

 

[cytg111]

Lol corp donors has apparently convinced Sinema that she can win the presidency 2024 if she stays centric. That she will be the great uniter and save the country all she has to do is stay the course and strike down dem bills.
Thats why she isnt worried about reelection to her seat… Cause she is going to be President.

She is as gullible as fucking Marjorie.

And dum as a fucking rock.

 

[hal2kilo]

This has to be one of the great self owns in P&N history.

Damn, he made me look. He's on my ignore for a very good reason. Saves time and most importantly, bandwidth.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Damn, he made me look. He's on my ignore for a very good reason. Saves time and most importantly, bandwidth.

Yeah, I finally put him on ignore a month or two ago. There is so much bat shit crazy a person can take.

 

[trenchfoot]

Pretty obvious to me that Manchin and Sinema are making some pretty lame excuses toward keeping the filibuster when it's also pretty obvious all they are doing is being self-serving by keeping those corporate $$$ rolling into their campaign chests. Sinema's net worth in 2018 was $32.5K. She's worth over a $million$ now and its not evident where her payout came from. Pretty damning evidence of how she's been bought off and who owns her ass.

https://www.fingerlakes1.com/2021/1...en-sinema-and-where-did-her-wealth-come-from/

 

[NWRMidnight]

Pretty obvious to me that Manchin and Sinema are making some pretty lame excuses toward keeping the filibuster when it's also pretty obvious all they are doing is being self-serving by keeping those corporate $$$ rolling into their campaign chests. Sinema's net worth in 2018 was $32.5K. She's worth over a $million$ now and its not evident where her payout came from. Pretty damning evidence of how she's been bought off and who owns her ass.

https://www.fingerlakes1.com/2021/1...en-sinema-and-where-did-her-wealth-come-from/

Cough, cough, big pharma.. cough cough..

 

[sportage]

I wish I could write Biden's speech for MLK day.
Some messaging that I would have Biden say in that speech would be...

I DON'T WANT TO "BLAME" REPUBLICANS FOR THEIR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR VOTER RIGHTS, I WANT TO "SHAME" REPUBLICANS OVER THEIR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR VOTER RIGHTS.

And Joe Biden addressing Sinema and Manchin in his MLK day speech....

Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin have stated that they both fully support voter rights and support voter rights legislation, however both Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin do not support changing the senate rules in order to advance voter rights and then pass voter rights legislation. "THIS IS NOT ENOUGH".
Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin believe it a threat to the senate to change the rules to advance voter rights and protections, however Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin must also remember the rules that Martin Luther King fought to change, and the dangers Martin Luther King faced as he marched across that bridge from Selma to Montgomery to advance voter rights and protections. For Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin to stand up for this legislation and to stand up for changing the senate rules dwarfs what MLK endured with his fight for voter rights. Will not Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin at least do what Martin Luther King has done? Cross that bridge, and do what it takes, in the name of Martin Luther King.



THEN.... let Chuck Schumer have his vote in the senate on Tuesday for Biden's voter rights bill.
Lets just see what Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin will do? And remember, every republican sitting there too?

 

[dank69]

And that vague incrimination justifies whatever you think might be a good idea? The republican's did something you see as wrong or unjust, so that gives the democrats license to do something wrong or unjust? Have you thought about where that logic ends?

Making sure everyone has the ability to vote isn't wrong or unjust.

 

[MichaelMay]

I wish I could write Biden's speech for MLK day.
Some messaging that I would have Biden say in that speech would be...

I DON'T WANT TO "BLAME" REPUBLICANS FOR THEIR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR VOTER RIGHTS, I WANT TO "SHAME" REPUBLICANS OVER THEIR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR VOTER RIGHTS.

And Joe Biden addressing Sinema and Manchin in his MLK day speech....

Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin have stated that they both fully support voter rights and support voter rights legislation, however both Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin do not support changing the senate rules in order to advance voter rights and then pass voter rights legislation. "THIS IS NOT ENOUGH".
Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin believe it a threat to the senate to change the rules to advance voter rights and protections, however Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin must also remember the rules that Martin Luther King fought to change, and the dangers Martin Luther King faced as he marched across that bridge from Selma to Montgomery to advance voter rights and protections. For Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin to stand up for this legislation and to stand up for changing the senate rules dwarfs what MLK endured with his fight for voter rights. Will not Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin at least do what Martin Luther King has done? Cross that bridge, and do what it takes, in the name of Martin Luther King.

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THEN.... let Chuck Schumer have his vote in the senate on Tuesday for Biden's voter rights bill.
Lets just see what Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin will do? And remember, every republican sitting there too?

Just fucking throw them out of the party, the idea that Biden can't get anything done while having a full majority everywhere is etching into people's minds and if it continues 2022 and 2024 will be a MASSACRE of a win for the republicans.

Stop being "clever" about politics, it NEVER works in the eyes of the voters, you REALLY need to fuck shit up and do what needs to be done to have a chance.

Here's my prediction, the Democrats will lose the house, the senate and Trump will be in office come 2024. Why? Because 1. votes do not matter when you can legally choose your own electors and it's up to states to set the rules and 2. Biden got exactly nothing done what so ever while having an absolute majority everywhere (and no, @fskimospy 'muricans are not smart enough to know any better, they elected GW TWICE and Trump once, 'muricans are fucking morons for the most part).

 

[ElFenix]

i just don't know what the difference is between now and 15 years ago!

 

[fskimospy]

Just fucking throw them out of the party, the idea that Biden can't get anything done while having a full majority everywhere is etching into people's minds and if it continues 2022 and 2024 will be a MASSACRE of a win for the republicans.

Stop being "clever" about politics, it NEVER works in the eyes of the voters, you REALLY need to fuck shit up and do what needs to be done to have a chance.

Here's my prediction, the Democrats will lose the house, the senate and Trump will be in office come 2024. Why? Because 1. votes do not matter when you can legally choose your own electors and it's up to states to set the rules and 2. Biden got exactly nothing done what so ever while having an absolute majority everywhere (and no, @fskimospy 'muricans are not smart enough to know any better, they elected GW TWICE and Trump once, 'muricans are fucking morons for the most part).

That sounds like a great way to not be able to confirm any more judges up to and including Supreme Court seats.

As for your prediction of Trump’s victory I find it funny that post 2016 people kept predicting more Trump wins and despite him suffering two blowout losses people just kept right on predicting wins.

Donald Trump is bad at politics and Americans strongly dislike him. If he runs again the most likely answer is he gets blown out yet again.

 

[MichaelMay]

That sounds like a great way to not be able to confirm any more judges up to and including Supreme Court seats.

As for your prediction of Trump’s victory I find it funny that post 2016 people kept predicting more Trump wins and despite him suffering two blowout losses people just kept right on predicting wins.

Donald Trump is bad at politics and Americans strongly dislike him. If he runs again the most likely answer is he gets blown out yet again.

Yeah, be "clever" and when Trump wins and the house and senate is GQP... CELEBRATE! You got what you worked very hard to accomplish.

We all know that Biden got nothing what so ever done, he backed down on every single promise and couldn't accomplish anything at all because he's weak, unlike Trump who accomplished everything.

You got ONE win based on dislike, you will not get another one with a weak president that accomplished jack shit AND made abortion illegal (you see, this is how it works, we know he didn't but 'muricans know he did. Your nation consists mainly of uneducated morons).

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

This has to be one of the great self owns in P&N history.

I dunno, he's set that bar very high, or very low, depending how you measure it.

 

[MichaelMay]

Cough, cough, big pharma.. cough cough..

Oh shut the FUCK UP!

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, be "clever" and when Trump wins and the house and senate is GQP... CELEBRATE! You got what you worked very hard to accomplish.

Huh?

We all know that Biden got nothing what so ever done, he backed down on every single promise and couldn't accomplish anything at all because he's weak, unlike Trump who accomplished everything.

Where did you get the idea that Biden didn’t accomplish anything from? Were you paying attention for the last year?

Regardless, Trump really didn’t get anything done besides a tax cut for rich people.

You got ONE win based on dislike, you will not get another one with a weak president that accomplished jack shit AND made abortion illegal (you see, this is how it works, we know he didn't but 'muricans know he did. Your nation consists mainly of uneducated morons).

Both 2018 and 2020 were referendums on Trump and he got blown out twice. People really dislike him and he’s bad at politics. He only got into office at all due to an anti democratic quirk in our system, as he lost the 2016 election by millions of votes too.

You will have to forgive me if I don’t consider the guy who got millions fewer votes than his opponent in every election he participated in some sort of unstoppable electoral juggernaught. He’s bad at this!

 

[MichaelMay]

Huh?


Where did you get the idea that Biden didn’t accomplish anything from? Were you paying attention for the last year?

Regardless, Trump really didn’t get anything done besides a tax cut for rich people.


Both 2018 and 2020 were referendums on Trump and he got blown out twice. People really dislike him and he’s bad at politics. He only got into office at all due to an anti democratic quirk in our system, as he lost the 2016 election by millions of votes too.

You will have to forgive me if I don’t consider the guy who got millions fewer votes than his opponent in every election he participated in some sort of unstoppable electoral juggernaught. He’s bad at this!

Sure, and since then NOTHING got done, nothing what so ever will EVER get done and the perception is that Biden is weak and useless.

I explained this to you four times, you still don't get it. I can't fix that.

 

[fskimospy]

Sure, and since then NOTHING got done, nothing what so ever will EVER get done and the perception is that Biden is weak and useless.

I explained this to you four times, you still don't get it. I can't fix that.

I understand what you’re saying, I just think what you’re saying is wrong and you’re delusional about the level of dislike that exists around Trump. He was literally the most enduringly unpopular president in history.

 

[Sunburn74]

Huh?

Where did you get the idea that Biden didn’t accomplish anything from? Were you paying attention for the last year?

Regardless, Trump really didn’t get anything done besides a tax cut for rich people.

I actually think he did plenty, though it was all shit for most of us
1) He launched the remain in mexico policy which is still active
2) Gutting the balance in our judicial system and slanting it heavily towards conservative view points
3) Making open racism cool again both in general society and in politics
4) Seriously hurting america's standing in the world
5) Completely discrediting america's electoral system amongst the public making the US prime for a fascist takeover
6) Essentially killing abortion in 1/2 the US (this is coming and its all thanks to trump)

I could go on and on with his negative impacts today but for people who wished for these sorts of right wing things to happen, he was great!

Technically he got the ball going on covid vaccines too but did such a terrible job selling them with all of his lies. Had he actually promoted vaccination, I could give him credit but he didn't so fuck him.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yeah, be "clever" and when Trump wins and the house and senate is GQP... CELEBRATE! You got what you worked very hard to accomplish.

We all know that Biden got nothing what so ever done, he backed down on every single promise and couldn't accomplish anything at all because he's weak, unlike Trump who accomplished everything.

You got ONE win based on dislike, you will not get another one with a weak president that accomplished jack shit AND made abortion illegal (you see, this is how it works, we know he didn't but 'muricans know he did. Your nation consists mainly of uneducated morons).

Oh, you must be one of these Dems.

Carville: Dems ‘whine too much,’ need to highlight accomplishments ahead of midterms - POLITICO

James Carville, one of the most well-known strategists in the Democratic Party, on Sunday said that Democrats “whine too much,” arguing that the left could prevail if is changed its messaging because the Republican Party stands for nothing.

“Just quit being a whiny party and get out there and fight and tell people what you did, and tell people the exact truth,” Carville said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,“ saying that “a lot of the Democratic base has not been told or informed of the things that President Biden and this Congress has accomplished.”

 

[HomerJS]

i just don't know what the difference is between now and 15 years ago!

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Trump has made it fashionable to be openly racist.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Oh shut the FUCK UP!

I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve? Do you have some secret fetish for her? Getting all upset over what's most likely the truth. It's not like she didn't get $750k donated to her by big pharma or anything.. however, you are welcome to throw out your conclusion on how she went from a net worth of 32k to 1 Million in 2 years. Guess what her Senator salary + that $750k equals? You can use a calculator, it's allowed. (Annual salary X 2 + 750K)

 

[cytg111]

I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve? Do you have some secret fetish for her? Getting all upset over what's most likely the truth. It's not like she didn't get $750k donated to her by big pharma or anything.. however, you are welcome to throw out your conclusion on how she went from a net worth of 32k to 1 Million in 2 years. Guess what her Senator salary + that $750k equals? You can use a calculator, it's allowed. (Annual salary X 2 + 750K)

Dude, he doesnt disagree with your point, he just doesnt wanna talk about it anymore, he wants to put her on a trebuchet and fling her out of the fuck out of the dem party. Manchin too.
Personally I think its hard to calculate where that line should be... I mean its obvious they're in big donor pockets, yea. Hostages. Yea. Still.. judges and all that... Dont know man. Dont know.

Where the fuck is the Lincoln Project? Did the dems learn nothing? This is what you have to do to Sinema and Manchin right now... Photoshop them onto those plantations with slaves and what not. Fuck em the fuck up, their home states too. Make em go viral. Again again and again.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Dude, he doesnt disagree with your point, he just doesnt wanna talk about it anymore, he wants to put her on a trebuchet and fling her out of the fuck out of the dem party. Manchin too.
Personally I think its hard to calculate where that line should be... I mean its obvious they're in big donor pockets, yea. Hostages. Yea. Still.. judges and all that... Dont know man. Dont know.

Where the fuck is the Lincoln Project? Did the dems learn nothing? This is what you have to do to Sinema and Manchin right now... Photoshop them onto those plantations with slaves and what not. Fuck em the fuck up, their home states too. Make em go viral. Again again and again.

Oh? He sure as hell didn't agree with me. His only response to me was to tell me to shut the fuck up? That sure sounds like someone who has an ax to grind about what I said.