Better Call Saul

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ultimatebob

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I think Mike knows Tuco is a serious bad guy and making him go away would benefit him financially and the world without Tuco would be a better place. But, Mike is very smart and knows the Cartel would come down hard on Nacho and Nacho would lead them to Mike.

Again, he's a smart guy....

Still, it seems like a half measure to me. He knew that Tuco would get out someday, and that he'll be gunning for Mike when he does. If we learned anything from Breaking Bad, Mike doesn't DO half measures anymore.
 

Charmonium

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May 15, 2015
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Did they ever say how many years Tuco would likely get? I think they did but I don't remember. That would be interesting for the purpose of figuring out the timeline from BCS and BB.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Did they ever say how many years Tuco would likely get? I think they did but I don't remember. That would be interesting for the purpose of figuring out the timeline from BCS and BB.

5-7 was estimated. Regarding Tuco gunning for Mike... Nothing suggests he thinks Mike was anything more than a doddering old man, and getting arrested was just unlucky.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Still, it seems like a half measure to me. He knew that Tuco would get out someday, and that he'll be gunning for Mike when he does. If we learned anything from Breaking Bad, Mike doesn't DO half measures anymore.

I think it was more confirming that Mike had some lines that he wouldn't cross. While he clearly had no problems with killing people that threatened him in the line of business he wasn't a cold-blooded assassin for hire.
 

Charmonium

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5-7 was estimated. Regarding Tuco gunning for Mike... Nothing suggests he thinks Mike was anything more than a doddering old man, and getting arrested was just unlucky.
I just remembered something. Wasn't there a mention in the episode about Tuco having a new source of meth. That had to be alluding to WW, right? So the timelines look like they overlap.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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I just remembered something. Wasn't there a mention in the episode about Tuco having a new source of meth. That had to be alluding to WW, right? So the timelines look like they overlap.
They are talking about supply from Gus vs. the Salamanca super lab.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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I just remembered something. Wasn't there a mention in the episode about Tuco having a new source of meth. That had to be alluding to WW, right? So the timelines look like they overlap.

Time lines don't overlap at all, not even close at this point. When Walt gets introduced to Saul he was already Saul and had been for quite a while. Jesse knew him as slickster who was the guy to use for drug busts and Walt Jr knew him from his TV ads. No chance that Walt was in the meth business while Saul was still Jimmy. Breaking Bad moved really quickly, it went from Walt getting the cancer diagnosis to them killing Tuco in like 2 or 2 1/2 months.
 

Charmonium

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Oh, ok. But you know the reference I mean. Guess I should have paid more attention when I was watching BB.
 

Charmonium

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Overall I liked last night's episode. I did have a problem with solution Saul proposed to Kim. I don't know how long Saul has been practicing but virtually any lawyer with any real world experience would know that was a stupid idea.

The best scenes where with Chuck at the office and with Kim. That story really humanized him and help transform him from something of a cardboard cutout to more of a real person. It also helped you understand the conflict with Jimmy a lot better.

Some of the dramatic pauses were over done but . . . meh.

The scene with Mike in the diner was also noteworthy.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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Overall I liked last night's episode. I did have a problem with solution Saul proposed to Kim. I don't know how long Saul has been practicing but virtually any lawyer with any real world experience would know that was a stupid idea.

The best scenes where with Chuck at the office and with Kim. That story really humanized him and help transform him from something of a cardboard cutout to more of a real person. It also helped you understand the conflict with Jimmy a lot better.

Some of the dramatic pauses were over done but . . . meh.

The scene with Mike in the diner was also noteworthy.

I thought it was slow and boring at times, but hey, nothing is perfect. I saw evil boots though. :eek:
 

Ketchup

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Sep 1, 2002
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I thought it was slow and boring at times....

That's how I describe just about every episode, lol. I like the overall storyline now, but I never watch the episodes as they air... there are just too many parts I would rather speed through.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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yeah last night's episode definitely felt kinda slow/boring to me. i also simply can't stand any screen time chuck has and wish his character was not in the show. everything about him bores me to death. and last nights episode had a lot of chuck.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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yeah last night's episode definitely felt kinda slow/boring to me. i also simply can't stand any screen time chuck has and wish his character was not in the show. everything about him bores me to death. and last nights episode had a lot of chuck.

I didn't mind the flashback when he wasn't a weirdo about electricity, so I am guessing they will show why he became so freaked out. I assume it will have something to do with his wife, maybe a fire or something started by a short.
 

drquest

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Apr 18, 2001
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Chuck adds a lot to the story, without him, there's no motivation for Jimmy and as we saw last night Jimmy seems to motivate Chuck as well.

Mike is at a turning point as well. His meeting in the diner can be his "going down the rabbit hole" of the mexican cartel, or prove to be a big issue between him and Nacho.

I'm fine with a slower story, it lets the writers stretch their legs and offer up something that other shows aren't providing.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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yeah last night's episode definitely felt kinda slow/boring to me. i also simply can't stand any screen time chuck has and wish his character was not in the show. everything about him bores me to death. and last nights episode had a lot of chuck.

Worst. Episode. Ever. Other than Hector Salamanca showing up it was 45 wasted minutes.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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I didn't mind the flashback when he wasn't a weirdo about electricity, so I am guessing they will show why he became so freaked out. I assume it will have something to do with his wife, maybe a fire or something started by a short.

flashback was okay, but it was better because it showed jimmy's start at the lawfirm. it let us know that when jimmy started at the lawfirm he had absolutely no intention or want to become a lawyer, and was anti-lawyer clowning them the entire dinner.

all it showed me about chuck was that at that point he had already built his dislike for jimmy before he even thought about becoming a lawyer, with how he talked about his brother while his wife cooked, and how he gave his wife a signal (which she ignored lol) on how to call it a night.

but later on we found out exactly why he has such disdain for his brother when he was talking to kim, and it had to do with his dad.

the dinner scene was way too long too. i thought it was never going to end.

chuck overall is just boring as shit and i really dislike his character. even the way he talks is irritating.
 

WaTaGuMp

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May 10, 2001
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flashback was okay, but it was better because it showed jimmy's start at the lawfirm. it let us know that when jimmy started at the lawfirm he had absolutely no intention or want to become a lawyer, and was anti-lawyer clowning them the entire dinner.

all it showed me about chuck was that at that point he had already built his dislike for jimmy before he even thought about becoming a lawyer, with how he talked about his brother while his wife cooked, and how he gave his wife a signal (which she ignored lol) on how to call it a night.

but later on we found out exactly why he has such disdain for his brother when he was talking to kim, and it had to do with his dad.

the dinner scene was way too long too. i thought it was never going to end.

chuck overall is just boring as shit and i really dislike his character. even the way he talks is irritating.

I agree with you 100%, I also thought that was the longest flashback ever.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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WHY DOES EVERYONE WORK IN DARKNESS, EVEN DURING THE DAY WHEN CHUCK ISN'T THERE?!

This is getting really annoying. If Kim doesn't sue them for extortion she should sue them for causing irreparable damage through eye strain. HHM and Davis & Main do this. Is it just industry standard in Vince Gilligan's universe?!
 

A Casual Fitz

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May 16, 2005
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I agree with the very slow and boring comments. It's like they don't have enough material to make a full 10 episode season so they shove in extra character "building" parts. I'll stand by hoping it doesn't last more than 1 more year or so depending on where they take the story.
 

MongGrel

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Dec 3, 2013
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I still think Kim is pretty hot myself, so I'll keep watching.

The show is still better than most things out there, IMHO.
 
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KLin

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Feb 29, 2000
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Well at least we'll be able to see how he ended up in a wheelchair and a mute.
 

sze5003

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Aug 18, 2012
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I'm still going to watch but I just caught up to last night's episode. All the chuck parts are very boring. I also don't like how they milk all this stuff and then five minutes before the end they make it interesting.

Hopefully the next episode will have more action. By action I mean more story substance, not just character scenes.