Moments like this are when other western countries regret being toothless unlike the US. The UK is at Iran's whim in this situation, because they can do nothing. If they were US sailors, a quick buildup of force on the border combined with an enraged American public would change Iran's mind real quick. No matter how you feel about Bush, he aint no Jimmy Carter.
Never, Brits are bonafide pvssies. They had their chance to blow the Iranian ships out of the water and take back their sailors but they decided not to last minute. What makes you think they'll invade land?
I'll take option C for a thousand, Alex. If they were Israeli, we probably wouldn't have an Iran to talk about right now...
1 - we'd block shipping lanes into Iran and bomb the ****** out of their terrorist training facilities, which is exactly what Britain should do
or
2 - The US Navy would have chased down the kidnappers, into Iranian waters, and gotten the sailors back. If Iran decided to use that as cause to escalate with us, we would be turning the desert into glass right now.
It's funny how there's all these "oh we're soooo tough, we would have kicked their @ss already, turned iran into a wasteland" etc etc. The good news is, it makes it easier to pick out the morons. Only naive stupid idiots think that way, it's just not how the world works.
Suck my c0ck yankee, you know nothing, why don't you find some brits and say that to their face? I look forward to your asskicking. bitch.
Yeah, what are you going to do? Smother him in some gravy and serve him up with some blood pudding?
GuitarDaddy
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I wish somebody would pwn those fools, and NK while there at it. I'm gettin really sick of all these thug wannabe countries puffing up their chests and acting like they own the fvcking world, when what they really want is a handout:disgust:
Yea, well, I'm obviously not going to do anything - this being the internet.
Still really fvcking pisses me off, insult people's country :thumbsdown:
if you think a US Navy ship would have just sat there and watched their sailors be kidnapped like the Brits did you are delusional. If you read details of the story the Brits were ready to fire at the kidnapping ships but they decided not to last minute and literally just watched the sailors get kidnapped.
I would venture to say the US Navy would have went as far as breach Iranian waters to blockade the ship holding the sailors.
I hope the SAS does something. I want to hear some cool special ops mission. 
If those were Israeli soldiers, Mossad, IMO the best intelligence unit in the world, would have rescued those soldiers by now.
If those were Israeli soldiers, Mossad, IMO the best intelligence unit in the world, would have rescued those soldiers by now.
Perhaps.... but it's that kind of bravado (and often mixed with stupidity) that gets us into situations like Iraq. Thinking before doing is a good thing, not a sign of weakness. Then, once the issue has been analyzed, go in with all guns blazing if need be after the options have been weighed.
Well a Lieutenant-Commander of the US Navy, Horner, who the executive officer of the USS Underwood, the American frigate that works together with HMS Cornwall, whic is the British ship that the captive boarding party came from; had this to say-
"Does that mean that one of his American boarding teams would have opened fire if it had been them in the two inflatable boats that were surrounded by Iranian Revolutionary Guard fast patrol boats off the coast of Iraq last Friday? "Agreed. Yes."
Obviously the US wouldnt have sat back and watched our sailors be kidnapped. Read more of what this guy said here-
http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp...pageid=1020420665036&col=1112188062581
And I'm sure you could find British naval commanders/troops that say they would've fired too. Hind-sight, especially in a situation such as this that could easily escalate into another war, is 20/20.
Also, if the Brits had opened fire, there would've been possibly a few dead Iranians and every single one of those Brits dead. Self-defense and self-preservation is also about knowing when to fight and when to lay down your arms.
Toonces
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From the article:
"The 15 British sailors and marines who were captured and taken to Tehran for 'questioning' last week are undoubtedly having an unpleasant time, but they are alive, and Britain is only involved in two wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan. If it had been one of Horner's boarding teams, they would all be dead, and the United States and Iran would now be at war."
Hmm -
15 dead soldiers + another ME war vs. 15 alive captives and time for negotiation, diplomacy, and rescue planning (if needed)
What would be the best outcome?
Edit: Please read the entire article... Gwynne Dyer is IMHO one of the better independent journalists
i don't think israel is that stupid. if it was, there would be a hole wherever they consider their boundaries at right now
i'm with the ones that keep saying you've been watching 24 too much (what is 24? i don't have a tv here
). nothing's gonna happen, and if something does, nothing drastic at allConsidering that the same thing happened a few years ago and the hostages were released, I doubt that England will try anything stupid. Wait patiently and Iran will release them.
irishScott
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Nothing unless Iran starts coercing/torturing prisoners. Then the sh!t is gonna fly. Remember that they were captured by the Revolutionary Guard, which is only semi-controlled by the Iranian government. It's full of radicals that would love to go to war with the West like wannabe Spartans.
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