Supreme commander is, IMO. It's the closest thing to a real RTS game, and absolutely loved Total Annihilation as well. Starcraft was great too, but I don't believe it was a clear-cut strategy game.
If you want to get into a gray zone, CIV4 is amazing. It's not real time though.
I spend most of my time playing CIV4 and SupCom lately. (Not including non-strategy games)
If you want to get into a gray zone, CIV4 is amazing. It's not real time though.
I spend most of my time playing CIV4 and SupCom lately. (Not including non-strategy games)
I should install SupCom again and see how it runs on my new rig. Or I should wait till the expansion comes out, hmz.
TehMac
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I think that SupCom is overrated. It's not startegy. It's simply a very advanced tactics game. Not saying any game has reached the strategy point that's pure real time, but when you say that, you're just encouraging mediocrity.
It's far from strategy.
Here's something that's not just my opion:
You're play on a mega map.
Is that strategy? No. You may have a tactical strategy, but hardly a real time one.
It's far from strategy.
Here's something that's not just my opion:
You're play on a mega map.
Is that strategy? No. You may have a tactical strategy, but hardly a real time one.
I haven't played SupCom enough to really an informed decision, but it seemed to me just like crank out a ton of units and attack. Didn't seem to matter much what you produce. Are there any units with special abilities like a Zerg Queen or Defiler, or a Protas Arbitrer?
TehMac
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There are a couple of Unique units for each side, but from all the reviews and discussions, the sides all play relatively the same, which in this day and age is...not acceptable. In other words, SupCom sacrificed gameplay for technical flairs. What I do like is that these technical flairs do achieve a purpose. What I'm not impressed with is that Company of Heroes did both amazingly well. CoH gets my money.
Which of the Big 3 out right now (CoH, C&C3, SupCom) focuses the least on the micromanagement side of resources and the like?
I don't mind micromanagement of my units, but keeping track of the minutia of how my base runs doesn't hold my interest.
Any opinions?
I don't mind micromanagement of my units, but keeping track of the minutia of how my base runs doesn't hold my interest.
Any opinions?
Thanks for the reply, yeah, I like the strategic warfare elements of moving pieces around a board, but not so much keeping the base up and running.
I've heard negative things regarding the online aspects of C&C3 (cheaters and such mostly) so I may give SupCom a try. I'll probably be plaing it all online.
Starbuck1975
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Dawn of War, Company of Heroes, Rone:Total War, Homeworld and Rise of Nations are probably the best RTS games to hit the market over the last 8 years or so.
Originally posted by: TehMac
I have no idea. I played the demo, and I thought it was classic and good, but didn't buy the game.
Everything tends to be exaggerated in the PC world, so maybe. But I have no idea.
I'm really really stoked for Medieval 2 Kingdoms though.
LOL, so wait, when you said:
...you hadn't played any further than the one map they give you in the demo, where you rush a base that's like 10 feet from your starting point? And you're implying that you know all you need to know regarding the strategy in the game?
I'm not say you are ultimately wrong...but good lord, gotta love the interwebs! LOL
TehMac
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Look, I've spent a lot of time playing C&C 3: I didn't just give the demo a whirl. I'm the guy who can pick up gameplay techniques and see what gives. I also read on "teh interwebs" using my eyes to pick up text and my brain to analyze it.
This process, commonly alluded to as thinking, has helped me deduce that yes, C&C3 would be better for you, because it does not pretend to have strategy, as opposed to a game that puts on heavy makeup, pretending she's the girl of your dreams.
Either way, Company of Heroes pwns both, and yes, I have that game.
This process, commonly alluded to as thinking, has helped me deduce that yes, C&C3 would be better for you, because it does not pretend to have strategy, as opposed to a game that puts on heavy makeup, pretending she's the girl of your dreams.
Either way, Company of Heroes pwns both, and yes, I have that game.
LOL, so it would seem you are equally adept at sarcasm as you are with giving comments on games you haven't played.
Well done, thanks for the help.
Maximilian
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Company of heroes seems highly regarded, dont know why to be honest, its pretty good but some are making it out to be a starcraft beater or something.
C&C3 is ok, no longevity though, gets boring fast.
Im back on starcraft again I really want starcraft 2, C&C is dead to me, most other RTS games pale in comparison with starcraft. Theres so much to do on sc and the freedom you have in game to unally or convince the opponent to ally you in 2v2's or 3v3's is unmatched.
C&C3 is ok, no longevity though, gets boring fast.
Im back on starcraft again
I really want starcraft 2, C&C is dead to me, most other RTS games pale in comparison with starcraft. Theres so much to do on sc and the freedom you have in game to unally or convince the opponent to ally you in 2v2's or 3v3's is unmatched.
TehMac
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SC is like most other RTS games really. It's art design is the only thing keeping it alive.
CoH outdates SC in most other aspects like gameplay, micro and macro management, in depth analysis of the environment (which affects gameplay) etc.
The only thing SC has is art design.
Now flame you SC boob!!!!! :|:|:|:|:|:|:|
Maximilian
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Micro macro gameplay blah blah, the one thing that makes starcraft better than all other strategy games is that its more fun. Fun is number one!
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Oh stop it!
You must need steel poles to hold THAT head up. If you don't like SupCom you have the option of running away, but to try and over-think it out of existence in this way is just insane.
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SupCom requires a fair amount of fiddling right at first, but there's an option that allows you to start with a prefab base of early essentials if you like that sort of thing. If you like climbing the tech tree before an attack you can easily, with some experience, build a base that can take care of itself to a great degree. SupCom is all about recon. This drives your build order, especially as tech starts to ramp up. There are so many ways to get pasted, especially in Assasination, that it pays to have a clear idea what the enemy is doing.
If you decide to play online, look at some of the replays first.
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